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Hi all,

I'm starting us off today. I hope everyone is doing well. I'll be back in a few with personals.

Tracy
 
Theres TRACY!!!! YEAH>>>>>>


Happy Thursday!
What a day yesterday- computer had to be off all day due to lightening storms… the “kids” were whining & glued to my hips all day… 730pm everything finally settled down and I was able to go to bed for first time since Monday night. We are definitely flooded out here! So happy the forecast is SUN for next 5 days. WooHoo!

Needless to say no workout for me yesterday so today I will do Push Pull + just a 30 minute cardio of some sorts.

Back to yesterday….

:eek: LAURIE X:: WOW on the 50#s overhead! I was THRILLED when I could finally use my 15’s by then end of X! Those are some strong shoulders you have created! Hope SH Ch/Tri was equally as rewarding for you! Cant wait to hear about Barry’s Total Body as a Core Syn sub… keep us posted! I went to his website and was surprised by the cost of his stuff.. Seems pricey – although I know the individual DVDs run about the same as Cathe’s so I guess its just a matter of if it works & we like it, just as well.

:eek: JEANETTE X::
LOL- I want it ALL too! & I’d like it right NOW please!! LOL
I do believe with that tough cycling season coming up you won’t have much time for other forms of cardio??? I so admire how much you take advantage of the great weather and get into the outdoors. Its cool in summers up there isn’t it? I know San Fran is the coldest place I ever went in CA in summertime! Had to laugh as I have never even looked at SH Legs either! The name kept me away because of the same visuals that you have! Maybe we should join Cathes marketing team!

:eek: SANDRA X:: That BM & DM combo sounded tough! Are you keeping your workouts to about an hour (except yoga maybe?) – Is that one of your goals…I thought you mentioned that before as 1 thing you liked about X- less workout time / more results. I too am “hungry” or craving in the PM lately. I finally made a couple of Body For Life desserts so at least I can be sure its fairly clean and low cal /fat. I really love his recipes in the cookbook Eating For Life. Although the book doesn’t list calories/nutrients you can go to his website and get it all for easy tracking if you need to. Gotta a follow up ? on Circuits… so based on counting them as cardio – do you feel its OK to do a strength the following day? OR*** Do a strength on day 1 and a circuit on day 2? I don’t lift heavy in circuits so I could indeed do that! LOL on the eating. I am back to my Tosca clean eating pretty much… first week was tough on my body as it blew up like a puffer fish with the bread/fruit.. Its adjusted again and I actually am below my original WW scale goal without even trying to lose anymore. (remember back in the day where we met?- seems like years ago!)

:eek: STEPH: (almost X!!!!!!!)
Gosh I miss you too but certainly understand a busy life! I spent a short stint in HS System a few years ago and cannot imagine how unruly parents must be with the horrid students I worked with…I’m sure your group is much better- I was pretty disillusioned by the absolute disrespect I saw the HS Seniors give to any & all adults. Sometimes I was fearful – most times just amazed at how times have changed and how little power teachers in Texas have in the classroom. I went to Catholic school so we were pretty darned obedient & respectful to those nuns! They used to whack us with a ping pong paddle (on our hands!) if we talked back!!! What ya doing for Spring Break? Our schools are out this week… poor things have gotten all this rain! HANG TOUGH with recovery week…. You are nearly there! We are such a proud group now!!!!

:eek: LEA X::
Shoot girl I feel like a dufus! I was thinking I was NUTS when I read what workout you did yesterday… Reading your post I thought – man I wanna be tough like Miss Lea!! LOLOLOL. Whats wrong with ya- go give me that 10 miles & pump some iron!!!
I seriously do feel awful for you girl… I can only imagine your frustration level right now- I so wish there was something I could do to help. OMG on the rashes! Can you identify the food group or ingredient? Is it possible its just stress? Good heavens what if its one of your fav treats????

:eek: TRACY X:: Did I miss you yesterday? Are you doing OK??? Hope your ttom hasnt gotten the best of you!

:eek: DEBRA X:: Having fun???? Miss you!!

Take care gals… gotta go renew the license & get cars annual inspection done at some point before end of month…. Will get my workouts done early tho as I NEED a shower badly today! I smell like a dirty dog!!
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Hi,

I missed posting yesterday. The internet was acting funny last night and I was busy all day at work. Sometimes my job is a little depressing because I work closely with teachers who work with very severely disabled kids. Sometimes it is quite sobering. People with healthy kids don't know how lucky they are.

I strained my back really bad again Tuesday night doing ch/sh/tri. I am going to have to rethink my weight work for a while. Although I can do certain moves with heavey dumbells, my back, obviously cannot support that kind of weight. I did get my son to spot my bench and flys and that helped. I think that what I am going to do is a warmup set for each exercise to prefatigue the muscle and then a set with a not as heavy weight and hope for failure at 8-10 reps. Ugghh... I could barely sit, stand, or move Tuesday night. Yesterday was a little better, but sitting was miserable and I had to sit in meetings all day yesterday, plus I had obligations after work. It feels slightly better this morning, but no workouts for me yesterday or today.

Traci - You are going strong with your Kickbox. I'm glad you found something that you really liked. I'm probably going to do more of a freestyle leg workout for a couple of months. I had good results with that before, it's just more time consuming. I hope the dr gets all of your stuff straight. I just went for a physical. I hadn't had one in a while and decided it was time. She said everything looked fine, but I'll have to wait for the blood work to come back.

Sandra - I am SOOOO glad that you are having success in the evenings. We are all such creatures of habit that it just takes some work sometimes to break poor patterns of behavior. I don't count calories real often, but I do occasionally if I feel I'm too high or too low. It is a real eye opener sometimes isn't it? I do believe that you have to have some food items that are comforting and satisfying and it sounds like you have found some. It is so mental.

Laurie - You are working hard. Lifting 50 lbs over your head is great. I can't lift more than about 60. I can get it up, I just can't get it back off. Then if I have to yell for help, I always get a smart comment from my kids, which I ignore of course.

Lea - I read that running 10 miles comment and I'm like WOW, she got better quick. Then I read on. It stinks being injured. I'm with you on the cold water in the pool. There is no way for me. I cannot stand cold water. I hope that you heal quickly. I am planning on some sort of workout tomorrow, I hope.

Jeanette - It's so good that your biking is going so well. I think that the beauty of knowing a little more about fitness is being able to change your focus to suit your likings. That way you don't get bored with any one thing. It is a life long journey isn't it?

Steph - Keep going girl! The last recovery week... Great job. I don't envy you, but I'll be cheering for the finale.

I'll BBL, I don't think that work will be as busy today. I have to go to Costco, yet again after work.

Tracy
 
Morning Xers,

Today is CTX Kickbox cardio only, and a section of the Yoga Target Zone. My youngest DD has a concert tonight, so I don't have lot's of time after work.

Tracy, Sorry to hear about your back, take care as I know you are. Everyone was so great giving support when my shoulder was acting up, so I understand.

Traci, I am going to preview the Barry's BC Full Body on Saturday, and I will let you know. Have fun with Push Pull and whatever cardio you decide to do. Sounds like the weather was pretty intense for you yesterday. We are having windy conditions today.

Sandra, Oh I hear you on the munchies at night. Seems like doing these SH workouts have been making the engine run higher for me. Last night I wanted something....just glad I had left out the apples, so I grabed one of those. ARX was pretty good, I didn't feel like I lost anything, because I finished everything. Had to put my feet down on the Mason twists though. Those where always a little tough for me anyway.

Steph, So glad you checked in, and keep up the good work. You are almost finished. Yipee!

Jeanette, Funny on the SH Legs, I have never thought of them that way. Now I will think of that everytime I try the workout. :D

Lea, You had me going too on the workout, until the end. :) And yes I will admitt to a small crush on Tony. }( :+ Nobody's going to tell my DH of course!!!

Have a great day!

Laurie
 
Good morning ladies,

Today was my yoga day so I pulled out Karen Voight's Yoga Focus video. It's an old one but I really enjoyed it and she's a good instructor. I feel very stretched out now. I have a hill climb bike ride tonite with the fellas. I did Ab Ripper X last night and DH joined in for some of it. He does have a tough time of it though.

Tracy, so sorry to hear about your back. I am such a weeney about getting hurt that I probably don't push myself enough. I certainly hope you feel better today. You've been putting in some awesome workouts. I love working out to have it tested during an athletic activity, such as biking or running. For instance, the core work I've been doing is definitely paying off on the bike and hopefully in my everyday activities.

Traci, looks like you may be getting some nicer weather coming up. I'm sure the severe storms are no fun for anyone, man or beast. We don't have cool summers at all. We are a long, long way from San Fran. We are in the high desert in northeastern California. The summer temps are consistently in the 90's. Hot would be maybe 103 or so. We don't have the humidity here, which is nice. I am trying to not do as much cardio with 3 days of cycling. Not sure it's working.

I got on the scale this morning after avoiding it for over a week and was up 2 pounds from my final P90X weight, but more than anything, I have been able to tell my upper body muscle definition is not there now and my legs and waist are feeling and looking pudgier again. I've not changed my eating since P90X and the only cheating I've done (mostly) is overdoing the dried cranberries (they are gone now and I'm not buying more). I'm going to add up my calories today and see what the heck I've been eating calorie wise. Darned, how could a person lose their results so fast? I'm really not keen on going back to P90X again so soon, though I know it worked. It just got mentally tough at the end and I felt I needed a change for a while, that's why I'm doing a modified Slim Series. I just keep thinking I'm missing something else and that I should be able to keep the fun factor in without having to strain so hard on every strength workout. See, I told you I was lazy. You'd think someone that could bicycle pretty well for someone my age (48), eats clean, lifts weights, would not have to battle so hard for every pound or inch. GAAAWWW! Feels like it's getting harder and harder every year. This is the most I've weighed in 30 years.

Okay, rant over. Sigh.

Hope everyone has a great day today.

Jeanette
 
Hey gang. So sorry to pull you leg yesterday. I was dreaming of course. Again no workout. Hopefully by Monday I will be better.

But I have some good news for me. One of my DH's coworkers went to a detox/meditation center for a week and has been raving about it. My DH said that he wants me to go because it is exactly what I am into. I am loving the idea, saw the website and really really want to do this. Even if it means being away from the kids and DH for a full week. I even dreamed about it last night. My mom said that she would pay for some of it. Now I am kind of wondering....have I been that stressed out lately that everyone wants me out of here for a little while? LOL.

Ok, DH is up and time to make some coffee. I will chat with you guys later.

Lea
 
Back again-

The plan was to do Imax 1 & 2 Blasts only for some lower/cardio work… Well popped in Imax 2 and the premixes started skipping & freezing- went to Mix n Match & did same thing… got the DVD cleaner out and that did the trick but after screwing with it for 28 minutes I decided to go ahead and finish it and start with Step/Blast #4 thru end… Needless to say I did not have time to do Imax 1 blasts and PP so I will get cleaned up- go to DPS (DMV for you west coasters) and get some other errands run. Push Pull will be done at 3pm.
Best laid plans eh?

TRACY X:
Awwwwwwwwww Tracy… This is a total bummer about your back! I cannot believe that after all you’ve done to stay & improve on strength gains that this is gonna keep you from going full speed. I KNOW you know this but PLEASE do not mess around with this – you don’t want to live in pain (even minimal) for the rest of your days. Keeping good thoughts on your lab results.


LAURIE X:
Todays workout sounded like a great mix! So are you one of those that struggles with keeping cardio at minimum or do you prefer it that way?


JEANETTE X:
{{{{{{{{JX}}}}}}}}}} I feel your disappointment girl. I think you’re right to stick with your plan for another week or so. Ya just never know how long it will take your body to respond. My muscle size is absolutely smaller but at least I also leaned out and have lost another pant size without trying… It took 6 weeks post X tho. If doing another full X rotation isn’t in your near future you could always do the strength workouts every other week and do the circuits in between to see how your body responds to that. Just a thought. I wouldn’t get too concerned about scale unless your clothes reflect the gain too. Is it also possible that the more challenging rides now are increasing your leg muscles so scale is up? I’d imagine those hills would bulk you up pretty fast or at least cause swelling for a bit. Again- just thoughts…I know how freaking frustrating all this is!
Hang tough.

LEA X:
Oh Lea how cool is that spa????? I swear I miss CA for all those options. I am such a fish out of water in Texas! I WANNA GO TOO!!!!!!!!!!! Can I whine and stomp my feet… how about a little pouting???? Maybe you can detox enough so your body will heal faster! GO NOW so you can start the X with me as planned!!! I actually dreamt about this last night… Taking this as a recovery week and starting Monday! Am I crazy or what? Keep us posted.


Back Later Gals
 
Traci X - If I am not mistaken, they have one in Texas too!!!! Unfortunately I probably will not be able to go until August or so. I'll pm you the website. It sounds heavenly. By the way, sorry to hear about the weather out there. I am glad that it is going to be sunny so the floods can dry up.

Lea
 
Hi! Nice to see more faces here today. Tsk tsk to the storms, busy lives, and all the other stuff that gets in the way of a good chat.

This morning I did SH Triceps & Biceps, and BG bonus stability ball abs. Nice workout; my arms are toasty.

Steph - Spring Break! I'm on the other end of that: I'm not looking forward to having to figure out how to keep my 6 year old amused for a week. Her week is at the end of the month, so I have another week to prepare. The up side is that since I don't have to rush her off to the bus stop for 8am, I can have more time for some longer workouts, if I want. You are indeed getting SO close to finishing! We can feel you breathing down our necks. Go Stephanie go!!!!

LeaX - LMAO! You totally had me shocked yesterday! I read your first line and went "Wahhh?!?!?" Then I read your last line and went "Grooooooooan!" I really wish you could have done that workout. Maybe a week of meditation and detox is what you need, for sure. Let those muscles heal! And, ah, <gingerly testing my words>...um.....what are you detoxing from? And even though I'm not a fan, I'll take Britney's autograph, thank you very much. It's probably worth something on ebay. You'll send me your extra band? Okay, you are officially the most generous person in California! Ellen can't even compete with you! I know you don't want money for all this stuff you keep sending me, but trust me, I will make it worth your while somehow <mentally trying to figure out how to mail Lea a baby girl>.

TraciX - Happy Thursday right back 'atcha! So, you didn't do both the IMAX blasts *because your player was acting up*? Okay. I'll buy that. Personally, my excuse would be.....because-it's-freakishly-hard-and-I-don't-want-to-do-it!!! Great job on what you did do, though! You impress me very much with what you make yourself do. Yes, my plan is always to keep my workouts between 60-75 mins, but boy is that hard. There's so much I want to cram in each day. Like you and JeanetteX, I want it all, and I want it now! No time for down time! Absolutely I think it's okay to do heavy strength one day, and a circuit with light weights/high reps the next day. If the body part you focused on is very sore and tight on the circuit day, then either go very very light with the weight, or skip it altogether, but do the rest of the workout. Yeah, I remember how we met on the WW forum, and were both about 10 pounds from our goal. You're now under you goal (^^^^^^^^5!), and I'm back to being 7 pounds above it x( . Your eating discipline is amazing. Package some of that up and send it my way, won't you? And I'll package up some of this chocolate and send it your way :)

TracyX - Thank you for the reminder about how fortunate I am to have healthy children. I try to remember that, but it's easy to forget when I'm feeling overburdened by just the demands of "normal" parenting. Just reading about your back is making me cringe. Having a tired lower back is one of my first signs of pregnancy. There's a hormonal link there, for me. It also manifests when I get my period. I hope you can give it the rest it needs, and get back to your super-self.

LaurieX - Ugh! Those Mason Twists were always so hard for me, too! What's up with that? I was eventually able to do them all with my feet up, but don't think I was ever able to do the bonus 10 without a break. I'm sure I'll be taking a break with those when I do them again next week. So far SH hasn't got me feeling extra hungry. But dang, since I'm always ready to eat, how is it possible to even feel "extra" hungry? I agree that Tony is easy on the eyes, and I like his personality. The guy on CNN's "Showbiz Tonight", AJ Hammer, looks alot like him.

JeanetteX - Are you and I living parallel lives? I swear I could write your posts some days...like today! I'm also up a couple of pounds and feeling pudgier around the middle. Grrr. I agree that it's mentally tough to have to work SO hard each and every workout. I was thinking of doing Cathe's notorious August rotation (that has you do BC twice through), but I then I realistically accepted that I just don't have the mental stamina to do a workout like that each and every day. Waking up would be very depressing! So, I passed. But like you, I also don't want to jump back into P90X again, just yet. What's a fit-aholic to do?

I'll tell you what this addict is going to do! I'm going to set up a generic template for fatloss, and plug in the workouts as I go along. I spent some time looking through Cathe's fatloss rotations and found the whole idea of mapping out 4 weeks of workouts very unmotivating. Of course I can always sub as I choose, but I'd rather just figure out a template that works for me, with my own preferences and parameters, and go from there. So, please tell me, what should a fatloss rotation include? I'm thinking it should involve:

1. a generous amount of cardio (mixture of intensities and forms, but certainly one IMAX a week);
2. one total body weight workout each week (like Muscle Max);
3. a circuit or two a week
4. at least one workout that focuses specifically on the lower body (I plan to use Butts 'n Guts extensively. Love it).

And of course, it would be lovely to be able to do yoga and get plenty of stretching. And do some pull/chin ups for good measure. Now, how do I do all this in just 7 days?? And still get some rest? Ay! It's tough.

Have a great day,
Sandra
 
Hey, everybody! Another day with no time for personals. You gals sound so busy! I ended up not doing YogaX last night and went ahead and took the rest day, but I have to do it today to begin my recovery week. Thanks so much for all of you who are hanging around with me and pulling me through the final stretch. You ladies are so inspirational!

Jeanette - I agree with TraciX. I don't know if I would want to do a full blown X rotation either, but I plan on sticking in some of Tony's weight workouts time and again to try to keep up some of the definition.

Have a great day gals!

Steph
 
Okay, I've done some planning and here are my results. Please give me some feedback, if you can.

I've made up three weeks because I just couldn't decide on one week that would allow me to fit in all the workouts I like to do. Weeks A & B do not have a "yoga" day, but I still want to do 60-90 mins of yoga those weeks. I will have to play it by ear, but possibly do 3 of my 20-30 min yoga dvds 3 times a week when I have time. Or something like that. I'm hoping that by doing the following pattern, I can get in enough cardio to help burn off some of these pounds, but be doing enough weight training (heavy in week B) to maintain my P90X muscle gains. So, I will plan to do Week A, B, C, B. Then start over again.

WEEK A (total cardio time: 3.5 - 4.0 hours):

MON high intensity cardio
TUES total body weights, incl. core
WEDS cardio (60mins); core
THURS cardio & upper body weights circuit
FRI lower body weights
SAT cardio (60 mins); core
SUN XStretch

WEEK B (total cardio time: 2.5-3.75 hours; varied intensities and forms):

MON cardio (30-45mins); chest; core
TUES cardio (30-45mins); triceps
WEDS cardio (30-45mins); back; core
THURS cardio (30-45mins); shoulders
FRI cardio (30-45mins); biceps; core
SAT lower body
SUN XStretch

WEEK C (total cardio time: 3.0 - 3.5 hours):

MON high intensity cardio
TUES advanced cardio/circuit workout, incl. core
WEDS yoga
THURS cardio (60mins); core
FRI total body weights, incl. core
SAT cardio & lower body weights circuit OR cardio (45mins) followed by lower body weights (20-30mins)
SUN XStretch

What do you think? Will this allow me to "have it all"?

Cheers,
Sandra
 
Sandra:: I have a couple of minutes so wanted to THANK YOU for comments about PP the other day... I just finished it & its the first Cathe Full Body that I havent gotten bored stiff half way thru! (thats MY issue- not Cathe's) I will do that one again & again now. I subbed in pullups for back segments and will sub out pushups for some of the tricep & chest work!
Now on to your generic rotation!
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The plan is certainly well thought out and appears to "have it all".
I think its good how the cardio times vary week to week to keep the body guessing. Also the change of muscle pace week to week looks terrific! I have printed this out for myself after the next X round... AWESOME PLANNING!:7
 
Good afternoon everybody. How the heck are you doing? I am eating lunch right now and procrastinating on my cleaning. Heh, heh, heh. I did fix the toilet (I hope) which took me all morning. I was getting tired of feeling like I was on a rocking chair so I finally had to take the bull by the horns and fix it dern it!!!

Time for lovely personals:


Traci X - Wow!! I had no idea that you and Miss Fiddlefit met on the WW check-in. How cool that you guys have ventured to the Xers too. I have to laugh because sometimes I venture into the WW check-in on accident because you start those too. And I am really sorry. It really was not my intent to make you feel like a dufus. I was just trying to be silly:p . Have fun with the car. BTW, Dr. Furhman(sp?) is coming into town, I think in May and doing a seminar at a healthfair expo. Each speaker is 55 buckaroos each, and I might just shell out the dough for him. Sounds interesting.

Tracy X - OH NO!!! You poor thing. I hope that your back gets better quick. That is no fun. But please, take care of yourself and don't push it. You and Costco are the best of friends aren't you;-) ?

Laurie X - OK, what is the email addy to your DH??? I am so telling him about your hot crush;-) . Have a great time at your DD's concert tonight. What is she doing? Singing, playing piano, please tell.

Jeanette X - (((((BIG HUGE HUGS))))). I so hear you on losing things. It is disappointing. Are you sure that the weight isn't just muscle? You may have lost some muscle in one place and put on some more muscle say in your legs or something? Just wondering.

Sandra X - LOL. I almost wrote Fiddlefit X. Your DD's week is at the end of the month too? Well let's get together and have play dates!!! LOL on the detox. The stuff you are thinking about, I detoxed from years and years ago. The detox is a general detox where you just juice and don't eat. I drink caffeine}( , eat some sugar(not lots though), ummmm....the alcohol. You know, the good stuff. And it will be nice to see what I am eating to give me such rashes. I have been looking into Chinese face reading for health. It's very interesting. Ever heard of it? Gosh, I am such a closet hippie(minus the green stuff). BTW, you can mail me the baby girl until she is about hmmm....let's say 10. I don't think I would be able to deal with teenage girls. If they were anything like me...I checked out your schedule. Is all of this cardio going to make you lose some muscle? Hasn't it been said that cardio breaks down muscle? Just curious.

Steph - Hi. Thanks for checking in. Hang in there!!

OK, back to cleaning. YIPPEE!!! Talk to you all later.

Lea
 
Hi all,

Thanks for all of the well wishes. I'm feeling a little better today. I had to go to Costco and lift a few things, but I'm no worse for the wear.

OK, here's my question for the day. I am under the impression that a pound is 3500 calories. Since we all seem to have the problem of gaining weight at the drop of a hat, does that mean that we are gaining a pound of weight by eating fewer than 3500 calories? I realize that it doesn't make sense, but if not, than how do we gain weight on such minimal food?

Traci - Down an size and 5 lbs? You go girl. Looks like your plan is working. You must be getting lean. Are we going to see a picture? The new cardio sounds fun. I'm so bored with most of what I have.

Lea - I hope that you heal up fast. It's one thing if either a part of the top or a part of the bottom of the body is injured, but both is just over the top. I hope that you can mentally survive. I'm sure you will. A mental challenge is just as or more difficult than a physical one.

Laurie - I love that CTX kickbox. I think that it has a great variety of everything. Fifty lbs over head. That's great! I can do a little more than that, but the problem is always getting it back over my head.

Steph - Busy, Busy.... Just glad you could take a minute to stop by. Congratulations on starting the recovery week.

Jeanette - The muscles leaves faster than it comes. I'm convinced. After 7-10 days of no weights I look different. After more than that my strength is compromised. It's so hard to keep up with the intensity of the heavy weight work. I'm still going to try to keep up the upper body, but I'll have to back off of heavy legs for a while. I must admit though, I've decreased my calories just a bit on days I don't do heavy weight work.

Sandra - I am so glad that you are conquering the evil evening eating. We are such creatures of habit aren't we? OK, I'm going to play devil's advocate on your rotation. Was that type of rotation working for you before? Here's my two cents on the cardio. If you don't constantly vary it, it is not very effective. Even if you vary what you do week to week, I think that with muscle memory and adaptation that the routine that you did the first 20 times is much more effective than the next 10 times and progressively gets less effective exponentially so. To the point where the calorie burn is minimal. Cario sure doesn't build much muscle. Can I ask why you gave up on the heavy weights? Whatever cardio you decide to do, it needs to be mostly new or I think that you are defeating the purpose. Just my two cents.

Off to try to do some abs!

Tracy
 
So I thought that I would give everyone of you hard working gals a card. Sorry that I can't personalize it, if I could this is what it would say:

Traci, Tracy, Jeanette, Debra, Steph, Monica, Laurie, Sandra -

Congratulations on working so hard to achieve the fitness level and health that you want for you. I am proud of each and every single one of you ladies for sticking with it through good times and bad. I am proud to call myself an Xer along with you lovely ladies!!

http://www.americangreetings.com/display.pd?bfrom=1&prodnum=3025122&path=73086
 
LeaX - that ecard is a HOOT!! I warmly send you a huge thank you. You're so thoughtful! And your name belongs on that card, too! What is Chinese face reading? The spa sounds so awesome....except for the bit about not eating. That's what vacations are all about! I mean, who really goes on a cruise just to see the waves?

TraciX - I'm so glad you enjoyed PP! I love, love that one for the fun factor. I've done the version where you repeat everything twice and that really does add good intensity, especially if you're heavy-ing up. That's very smart to add on the back and chest work! Please don't tell me you haven't done SuperSets yet, either? PP's my favourite of the two, but SS is a close second.

TracyX - Yes, apparently one pound of fat is 3500 calories, but not every pound we see on the scale is fat. My weight is 2 pounds higher today than on Tuesday, and I know I didn't overeat that much! A major reason for scale-weight fluctuations is the quantity of carbs we have stored in our liver and muscles as glycogen, and the accompanying water required to store said carbs. For every ounce of glycogen stored in your muscles, your body stores 3 ounces of water. When people deplete their glycogen stores (which themselves have weight) via exercise, their body weight drops. The loss of glycogen and the accompanying water are the reason. This is also why low-carb eating makes people lighter and leaner looking, rather quickly. Unfortunately, your body needs glycogen, especially your brain. It gobbles up a very large proportion of your body's stores and if it's lacking, people have a hard time concentrating, can become depressed, and begin craving simple carbs. So, a high-carb "treat" will bring with it not just a few extra calories, but also fill up your body with glycogen and water, and the scale will reflect that. I know my 2 pounds from Tuesday was due to my lack of cardio workout today, and the carb-dense eating I did yesterday (even though it was all healthy, high-fiber, low-glycemic carbs). Are you familiar with all of this, already? Btw, my mood is also excellent today, which is also a reflection of having a good level of glycogen in my system. I learned all of this from Nancy Clark's book on Sports Nutrition. It's an excellent resource.

Okay, back to me ;)

Thank you Traci, Lea and Tracy for your comments on my generic rotation.

Traci - I'm flattered you want to do it! Of course, by July you could be on to ironman competitions or something, so I won't hold you to it ;)

Lea - I've heard that argument about cardio burning muscle, and here's my thoughts. I think they mean an "excessive" amount of cardio, but am not sure where that line is. I don't think (hope) 30-60 mins, 6 days a week, of a mixture of high and low impact, fast and slow paced, will be excessive. Second, at this point I'm so frustrated with my stomach fat that I'm willing to give up some of my muscle if the stomach fat goes along with it. I've heard for years that the defined, cut look requires lower body fat, not necessarily bigger muscles. I know my muscles are somewhere underneath this layer of chub. It's time to find them! Oh yeah, and even if I lose *some* muscle, it's certainly not going to be *all*. I'm not really going for quantity, anyways; just quality. I thought P90X would increase my muscle definition by building more muscle. Well, I built more muscle, but didn't get any more defined. But don't just accept my explanation. If you know something I don't about this, please feel free to fill me in.

Tracy - Thank you for playing devil's advocate! Your comments are appreciated. I guess I need to clarify that a higher cardio approach did work for me when I was attempting to lose weight. In fact, I lost 72 pounds 4 years ago, using a similar approach. I became very overweight after DD#1 was born. When she was 2 years old I said "enough!" and dusted off my 3 Cathe step workouts that I owned, and alternated them with yoga. I also started Weight Watchers. As I dropped the pounds I ordered more Cathe workouts, and began doing her weight work. 9 months later, I was lighter than before my pregnancy, had some nice muscle definition starting, and was really happy with how I looked. Unfortunately, I was becoming very unhappy, tired, and it seemed to be taking a whole lot of effort to keep my weight down. I was relieved to get pregnant again so I could stop trying to fight my cravings! Exercise kept my weight in check during my pregnancy, and afterwards, but I'm still carrying around a very generous middle. I went back to WW for a while, and finally saw the last 10 pounds begin to decline, albeit slowwwwly. I was also feeling deprived and tired again. At the time I thought I was probably overdoing the cardio, and all that exercise wasn't working. So, I turned to P90X because it seemed to be what I needed: less cardio, and lowered body fat due to muscle gain. While I certainly gained muscle, I think the biggest benefit I got from P90X was in increasing my calories. I'm thinking better than I have in years, my attitude is more positive, I have less anxiety, and I have more patience for my kids. But my weight is slowly creeping up again. I'm trying to find a decent balance now between getting enough cardio to gradually reduce my body fat, and enough calories to fuel my body and my brain. I know that to lower body fat, you have to burn calories and get the metabolism boosted. I have a really good layer of active muscle tissue now, thanks to P90X. So now I think I need to just try and burn off the excess fat stores with more cardio. But to be successful, I think the key will be in keeping my caloric intake moderately high: around 1800 a day. That's very high, if you're a WW member. This has been my goal for the last 4 days, and I'm finding it's enough to keep me feeling comfortable during the day. My night time snacking is getting much easier to ignore. Hopefully this will do the trick. There's no guarantees, of course, but in my world, this approach is definitely different. I agree with your comment that shaking up the exercise method can be very beneficial, but unfortunately I don't have very many options in that regard, at this time. And in that situation, I think the critical point is that *some* form of exercise be done, even if it's not the *most* beneficial. It's still better than none! I am planning on adding some skipping routines, so that will be a bit different. And hopefully in a few weeks I can start running again on Saturday mornings. I've probably replied in much more detail than you wanted (but it kept me out of the kitchen for a while)! I wanted you to know that I completely understand your comments, and this is my rationale for my new approach. Please feel free to continue to challenge or question any of this, as that's how I manage to (eventually) learn and try new things.

Have a good night!
SandraX
 
Hi all you Xers!

Tonite's bike ride was AWESOME! There were 3 other guys and myself. We did a fast flat loop around town of 15 miles and then started the long hill. It's about a 7-8% grade for about 7 miles or so I think. It was tough because I pushed, but not to the point of hurting, but at the point before you start hurting (think that may be your anaerobic threshold). I was very pleasantly surprised that my lower back didn't get tired. I did stand a few times to stretch the legs, which helps a lot. Two of the guys commented afterwards at how well they thought I did for this early in the season. I owe a lot to all the core work and cardio coach workouts.

Laurie, hope you enjoyed the concert today. How was the kickboxing and the yoga? I absolutely loved my yoga this morning. Karen Voight really stretches you out well.

Lea, I have a couple of friends that went thru a liver detox and also a heavy metal detox. They are really into healthy eating. They also got rid of their microwave (horrors!) as they claim it changes the molecular structure of food. They do raw food and such. Your detox thing sounds very interesting. I think I need to detox from dried cranberries. I wish they weight was muscle in the legs, but I'd rather have less fat there, don't want chunkier. The card is a hoot! Thanks so much, it perked me up immediately!

Traci, yes, I'm going to stay doing what I'm doing (Slim Series with cardio every other day) for a little while and see if it helps. I'm also going to just slightly cut my calories and see what happens. Thank you for the hugs, I genuinely feel them and am so happy I can vent here and know I will get great advice and comfort too. I wouldn't mind bigger MUSCULAR legs, but the fat on top of the muscle isn't what I'm after.

Sandra, I remember when that August rotation came out. I didn't do it. I kept thinking break a plateau, heck, my body will think that working out like a maniac is normal and when I try to back off to something more sensible, on will come the pounds. I like your rotation, but instead of morning cardio, I could do something else like Pilates or yoga as I cycle for cardio 3X a week. I definitely ate cleaner with P90X and was secretly thinking that if I ate clean and went back to Cathe, I could maintain my leanness. I did count up my calories and they are on the high side, though my workouts aren't as intense as with P90X. I just don't think I burn a ton of calories. Discouraging to know that the fitter you are, the less calories you burn. I may not be as lean as I want, but I'm pretty darned fit (on the bike anyways).

Tracy, discouraging to count my calories and they are WAYYYY less than my co-workers who pile on the food for lunches. I guess I want to see more return for my sacrifice LOL. I'm doing Slim Series and not heavy weights, hoping to change things up as I felt I'd plateaued. Don't think that requires as many calories, but then, I'm cycling harder and longer now, doesn't that burn a bunch of calories? If it was as easy as calories in, calories out, I wouldn't have a problem with it. I fear it is much more complicated.

I've got to go now and spend time with DH,

Jeanette
 

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