Sorry if this is a strange topic...

Zozo

Zozo

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For the last year or two, I have been getting up in the night to go to the toilet, frequently. Now, at first it would be two or three times before sleep, and maybe once or twice afterwards, but now (last five months or so) it is about 5 times before sleep and at least 3 times afterwards. I went to Homeopath, after having no success from my GP, and he said it was my exercise that was doing it and so, as long as I exercised, I'd have to live with it!. Has anyone else experienced this? I can live withgetting up AFTER sleep, because my body has adapted to getting back to sleep. But going that many times BEFORE sleep is meaning that it takes nearly two hours to get to sleep. Having said that, i will go anywhere between tend minutes and half an hour apart BEFORE sleep, and usually hourly, or two hourly depending on the night, during sleep.

I'd really appreciate any advice or even anyone who is having the same experience!

:)
 
Do you drink a good amount of water, coffee, tea etc, during the day? I do , and I pee a LOT at night too. Every few hours I get up. Moreso at night than even during the day, when I'm drinking it!
 
Zozo said:
I went to Homeopath, after having no success from my GP, and he said it was my exercise that was doing it and so, as long as I exercised, I'd have to live with it!.

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I'm not sure what homeopath is but I'm surprised your GP didn't do more tests. I have a terrible insomnia and I go to the bathroom at least 5 times a night. I do have to say that the theory of the exercise thing is bizarre because I have not been exercising as much as I used to 4 months ago and the peeing has increased for me. I did not have this problem when I was exercising more. I'd get a second opinion.
 
never heard of exercise causing one to pee throughout the night????? that being said, i pee a lot throughout the night and suffer from insomnia as well. I can relate to peeing before falling asleep. I get up 1-2 times before i fall asleep. I can't get to sleep at all if i feel the slightest urge to pee. I would get a second opinion or go back to GP
 
Here's a strange answer :) I read, on one of the health websites I frequent, about a person who stopped using non stick (teflon coated) pans and when he did this he stopped getting up to pee several times at night. I think it took a couple nights before he really noticed a difference. I don't know it might be worth a shot?
 
Everything I'm reading here is very strange to me. I've never heard of any of these causes! I'm really surprised your homeopath would make such a suggestion. Have you checked their credentials?

I, too, am surprised your GP wouldn't conduct more tests. I drink upwards of 2.5 to 3 liters of water a day, plus a cup of tea, 2 cups of coffee (only in the morning) and the occasional latte (homemade, so I control the ingredients) at night. I never get up at night specifically to use the toilet unless I have a UTI, which is rare.

There is something else going on. If your GP won't address it, I would go see a urologist and soon. It may sound like just an inconvenience to you, but it may be something else and you should certainly have it checked. If your insurance won't allow you to seek out your own specialists, then I would demand a referral from your GP.

I'm not trying to scare you, but there are too many other things that can be going on.
 
Sorry, A Homeopath is an 'alternative doctor', so he is basically into herbal and natural remedies. He said that my kidneys were 'flushing themselves' at night. Well, I think I'd hope they did that whether I was exercising or not.. but not ALL night. ANyway, I'm glad a lot of you agree that this is probably very unlikely.

I have had some tests from the GP, particularly hormonal. But they did a food and drink deprivvation test (where I don't get to drink anything or eat anything for 24 hours, and see what happens with regards to peeing) and I can't tell you how horrible that was. But it came back clear, so all investigations stopped. Unfortunately.

I do drink a lot, I always have, but, for example, not more than my Dad, who only gets up once. I drink caffeine, but only from tea, as my stomach is senistive. I never have caffeine after 5 pm. BUT i do drink decaffeniated drinks after that.

It's interesting that some of you have had similar problems. Thank you for clearing a few things up. I will definately go back to my GP. Luckily, although being in England means I have to wait for Cathe, I can get a second opinion for free on the NHS, so I will try and do that.

Thank you everyone :)
And I am ecstatic that nobody has said 'he was right. Cut down on the exercise' because I think I'd have cried ;)
 
One thing you didn't mention is the quantity of what you are peeing.
If it's a normal 'pee' each time, then I'd think the culprit would be either the amount or timing of fluids you drink (drink most of your fluids before something like 6:00, and limit fluids after) or something like caffeine (not just from coffee or tea, but from chocolate as well.

If it's lots of 'little' pees, then it seems more like an irritated bladder or urinary tract. That could be from something in food (keep a journal writing down what foods and how many times you have to urinate each night. You may be able to notice a pattern of consuming certain things and having more need to urinate) or some kind of infection (you might have a chronic, low-grade urinary tract infection: D-mannose can help with that---it's a naturally-derived carbohydrate that works better than cranberries for urinary tract health).
 
I drink a lot of water during the day so I do use the bathroom quite a bit. For me, I have to stop drinking fluids a couple of hours before I go to bed or I will be up all night going.

As far as exercise causing it, that just doesn't sound possible.
 
Hiya :) I pee a reasonable amount, but by no means 'fully'. I don't ever pee as much as I would in the day time... and quite often only a little. But always enough to make me FEEL like I'm going to pee a normal amount, even if it's only a little. But I do THINK i pee a normal amount during the day... :S
 
this doesn't make sense

Ok. Here is the deal, it sounds like you may have interstitial cystitis. The cool part is, that I take Bilberry for it and it works really well and I don't have that problem anymore. Its over the counter I like the standardized from Nature's Way. Its not really cheap but its not really expensive either. I used to have this nagging feeling that I had to go pee all the time (7 years!) but when I was 21 someone with the same issue suggested it and it took about 12 days of a full dose to treat it (for the first time I could sleep through the night.) It was a god send. I don't know if this would help you. There are no known side effects. Its a berry closely related to the blue berry. It treats small capilarries like those in the eye and in and around the bladder. Now I only go to the bathroom maybe once a night (usually around 3 am.) and I pee a lot. Holding it doesn't hurt.

The other option is you have a hormonal imbalance. But, it really sounds like the bladder is the suspicious party.

It is possible that you might be having your kidneys kick in at night, but I don't think so. You should be able to sleep just fine even with a moderately full bladder. It shouldn't bother you that much which is why I'm suspicious of your bladder rather than your kidneys.
 
I had/have a similar problem. I think most of mine prior to going to bed is physcotic. I simply can't go to sleep unless a bathroom run is my last activity before going to bed. It may be that I went 5 minutes prior but if I've tinkled then brushed my teeth and crawled into bed, I have to crawl out again and tinkle before I can relax enough to sleep.

The during the night trips were greatly eliminated once I started supplementing with hormones. I'm not sure how old you are but if you are in the beginning of peri (mine started around 38) then it could still be hormonal. The problem of running hormonal test prior to menopause is two-fold. One, most GPs only run test for the FSH, not an indicator of how your estrogen and progesterone levels are. Secondly, most of us don't get hormone panel test ran while we are in our hormonal prime but wait until we are feeling off, or symptoms start appearing so we don't have a comparison to determine if our hormones are lower than what our bodies are use to. To be fair, it is hard to get a good read on homrones prior to menopause because they flucuate so rapidly. I'm still a proponent of getting at least one test done while in your early 30s to keep for reference.
 
Thank you so much for the advice. I am definitely going to try that berry stuff... I can't express how grateful I am that you took time to try and help me. But I do agree with you completely. :) I THINK that if it was my kidneys, it would have been picked up by the GP by now. My mum suffers from cystitis (the type that causes pain) regularly, so it is more than likely that I have something related. I had never actually considered this before now, so again I cannot say how grateful I am. It really is a nuisance, and, as you said, not normal! I should be able to 'hold it!'
Thank you sooo much :)


I don't think it is linked with menopause as I am only 18 :) Thank you for the advice though, I appreciate it :)
 
RapidBreath said:
Ok. Here is the deal, it sounds like you may have interstitial cystitis.
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I just googled this, and I found: Many women with IC/PBS have other conditions such as irritable bowel syndrome

I DO have very bad IBS... and so I just wanted to say thankyou for making me aware of this. I had never before associated cystitis with FREQUENT urination, only painful urination.
I will try the Billberry.
:)
Thank you
 
bakert said:
Here's a strange answer :) I read, on one of the health websites I frequent, about a person who stopped using non stick (teflon coated) pans and when he did this he stopped getting up to pee several times at night. I think it took a couple nights before he really noticed a difference. I don't know it might be worth a shot?
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Really? That's the advice? Peeing too much at night, change your frying pans? Oh, you have an issue with a heart murmur? Change your dish detergent.
 
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