Serious overtraining issues and questions

cher54

Cathlete
Well, I think I have overtrained to the point of near exhaustion.:mad: I knew it was coming on last week but I forged through and worked out anyway. I am to the point now that I physically cannot work out. I looked up the signs of overtraining and I pretty much have them all; shooting pains, soreness, stiffness, insomnia, depression, etc. Anyway, I was just wondering if anyone else has ever gotten to this point. I know that every body is different and we all recover at different rates, but if anybody has experienced this and the time it took to recover I would really like to hear from you. I'm a little concerned I got to this point in the first place and I would love some experience/advise from the educated crowd! TIA!
 
I have done this in the past and took the advice I got here on this forum. Take a full week off! I did. I did nothing--no yoga, pilates etc. I only walked the dogs. Did I ever feel better after that. I couldn't believe how much stronger I bounced back. NO guilt.
 
An extended rest is definitely the way to go. Otherwise you'll just be digging yourself in deeper. And while you're resting, I'd advise rethinking your workout schedule. Give yourself some leeway to lighten up instead of going full blast all the time. Otherwise, you'll run right into the same problems again.

I've never reached the point that you have, but I have come to a point where I know it's time to back off. In fact, I just got through one of those times. I took four days off and just went outside and walked, and then for the next week I only did routines with a high fun factor.

I feel much, much better and I'm ready to work back into some harder stuff... BUT I've also realized that I really do want that fun factor back, so I'm making some changes!
 
When you get to the point of exhaustion from overtraining you are also risking injuiry. I recently pushed myself too far and ended up hurting my back during a HiiT treadmill sprint. NOT cool! The good thing was that the injury forced me to not only take a week and a half off to heal, but also to think about why I got hurt in the first place. Rest days are so important and i promised myself that going forward i'll listen a little bit closer when my body tells me to relax and take a day off :)
 
I reached that point back in June & took a week off but only because I went on vacation. It wasn't until after I got back & felt so much better that I realized I had pushed myself too hard. Now, I make it a point to take some rest days or go easy on days where I feel exhausted.
 
Hi Sherry:

sorry to hear you are feeling low and somehow it makes it worse that, a) you brought it on yourself and, b) it came about through too much of what you love!

So far everyone is saying "take a week off," but I have to disagree. A week will probably not cut it. A week's rest is fine when you are feeling extra sore, tired and achy, but you have pushed yourself well beyond this and into depression and insomnia and I am recommending you take a month off from formal/structured exercise because you need time to heal the mind and revise your attitude to your fitness program in addition to allowing the body to heal and rest.

The first week, do nothing but normal, daily activities and required household chores. Rest a lot. Sleep a lot. Start indulging yourself in whatever feels good and makes you happy. It is time to remind yourself that you deserve more than the daily punishment your fitness regime has become. You do not deserve punishment.

Use your self-imposed exercise time to catch up on fave TV programs, or films you never caught when they first came out. Give yourself permission to just lie on the couch, in a sunspot and read a damn good book and not move for an entire afternoon, except to fetch more tea and a snack. Use your time to re-discover what your brain and mind need and the other things your body needs to be healthy: time, rest, luxurious baths, healthy food. Spend some time exploring the cook books you own: what could you experiment with that you have never tried before? I find making home made soup from scratch to be wonderfully relaxing and fulfilling because it is not like all that sodium filled crap they sell in the stores and the aromas filling the kitchen are to die for. Forget the rigours of "clean eating" for a while. Follow your instincts to eat what your body needs, because right now, you are probably depleted in nutrients also. Use that apple to make a pie and then sit down and enjoy it and remember that daily life needs to include pleasure also, not just obligations, denial and punishment. Otherwise: what's the point? Stop and smell the roses. Get off the treadmill of thinking you always have to be doing something, always have to be moving, always have to be actively engaged physically, always have to accomplish something. Says who?!!!

After a couple of weeks of this, see how you feel and ask yourself, "what do I feel like doing?" Do some light exercise, BUT ONLY IF YOU WANT TO. If you cannot be bothered, if it starts to feel like you are feeling obligated to do exercise, then stop. You have to want to do it or you are again punishing yourself. Do something you don't normally do and that you associate with leisure time as your exercise: swim with friends, hike in the woods and enjoy the fall foliage, follow along with a yoga class because you've never done anything so SLOOOOOOOOOOOW in your life. No huffing and puffing, no pushing, no heavy weights, no expectations, no "having to" or "should" do anythings at all.

When you get back to more rigourous exercise, re-examine your expectations of yourself and your needs. Ignore most of the research that says you HAVE to do 3 sessions of HiiT and 3 of heavy lifting per week. Do yourself a favour. Aim for 4 workouts only for the first month after you start back. Think: slightly challenging but moderation. You don't have to do it all each session. Start selecting workouts because you love the music and it includes a favourite section or move, not because it ranks within the top 5 of Cathe's most demanding DVDs. Ignore what everyone else is doing. It is not a competition. You don't have to do "nosebleed" workouts just because someone on the forums reports that this is what they do. You don't have to workout for 2 hours each day, 6 days a week just because others have nothing better to do with their time and are slightly obsessed. Bully for them. This is not about them: it's about you. Think about taking a break from these forums because the whiff of exercise compulsion can get pretty strong around here sometimes. Make sure each week includes some low impact exercise so you are not always tempted to go "all out" and fall back into the cycle of burn out that leads to depression and/or injury.

It is not just your body that needs to recover here it is also your mind. You need a new attitude. Hopefully, some of these suggestions can help you get there and start treating yourself a little more kindly. If you don't, who will?

Good luck Sherry. here's wishing you a speedy recovery!

Clare
 
Thank you all so very much.....

Phyllis, Shannon, Jenn, and Measuredoak, Thank you guys so much for responding to my post. Just what the dr. ordered! Clare, I definitely needed to read your response. There is much more going on than just a desire to be fit. That obsession has definitely taken over. You're so right about needing to take time to just smell the roses. If I'm not doing something, I feel very guilty. I have been pushing myself too hard for a long period of time and it is definitely catching up. In my case, I am thinking one week is not going to be enough of a rest, and yes, I am going to reevaluate my workouts. Going all out everyday is not working for me. I really needed some support and advise; thank you for being honest. Ok, off to soak in the jacuzzi and read a good book!;) Thanks again!
 
I read a book called Exercise Addict that I got from the library. It was very interesting about one young woman's experience with eating and exercising. Not saying you fall into this category but it still was an interesting read. She wrote a lot about trade offs--I ate so much so now I have to run so long or lift so heavy. I can't remember the author's name but it is a relatively recent book and I am sure, if you are interested, you could get more info on amazon or check your local library.
 
Excellent advice from everyone. It's so true as often we think in terms of our physical needs. But all three arenas need time for rest, recuperation, and quiet. I have always benefited from rest periods. I look forward to them. But it's what I learned to do over the years and realize the amazing benifits of it. ENJOY your REST!!
 
Thank you fitatfifty. I've been struggling with the concept of taking a much needed rest and your post is very encouraging. Actually, the longer I rest, the better I feel about it. I see from your screenname you're fifty or over:p. I have noticed since I reached my fifties that I need rests more frequently. I guess I need to accept this and do it with grace, so I can benefit from exercise for the rest of my life.:) Thanks again for caring!
 
Thanks so much for posting this. I've been having a hard year and a half myself and needed to read this.
I had an over training injury from doing my STS 1 rep max tests in too short a time period (that led to surgery and starting all over) and then I pushed myself too hard after recovery this past Spring because I wanted to be where I was before my injury. This Summer I had extreme fatigue & insomnia trying to keep up my workouts and get my house and yard ready to sell. Can you say "stress"?
Why is it so hard to "listen" to our bodies? I feel as if I have two workout voices inside of me. One is a slacker and the other is too intense. I'd like to learn how to adapt Cathe's posted monthly rotations (which I love having) to my needs - still workout hard but not hit the wall.
Colleen
 
Hi Colleen, You sound like you know where I'm coming from but I wanted to expound a little further on what is going on just to help anyone avoid this situation. I have had terrible shooting pains throughout my body that have been just downright scary! I thought there must be something else going on as they were happening even when I did ABSOLUTELY nothing! Finally, today I feel much better but still experiencing some pains. The week before I absolutely "lost it" I was sleeping 11/2 to 3 hrs. a night. The last few nights I have slept 10 hours. This is such a serious issue that I just want to address it again. It IS NOT worth going through this. All of the fun and benefits are just completely eradicated when a person works out to this point. I have reevaluated and revamped my workouts to a much more moderate level that I hope works for me. If I feel drained or dragged out with this new schedule, I will go from there. It has been tough taking a rest week but so well worth it. I'm starting to feel like a new person. I wish you the best and hope we can all find moderation in one of the aspects of our lives that we all love so much!:)
 
One more thing Sherry, besides seconding every brilliant Cathlete who responded to you (you are all awesome, you know that?). I was once on a treadmill at the gym and next to me was a wonderful man appearing to be in his 70s. I started running, sprinting, and this gentleman putt-putted alongside me for the whole time I was running. As we ended, he said, "Thank you so much for inspiring me." We chatted and he said he as a Dr. - Dr. Lee - an MD and holistic health practitioner. 72 years old (!). What he said stuck with me 5 yrs later, "You can run forever, but as you get older you must run differently." He takes breaks, he rests when he needs to, he gets acupuncture, he treats himself well, he "returns himself to a state of equilibrium each day" he said.

That was my angel for the day. And I bet he is still running. You will be too.

Let's all meet on the forums when we are in our 70s and see how we're doing! Ha!

Julie
 
Thanks for posting Cher54. I hope the period of physical, mental and spiritual rest helps you with what your going through and your post is just what the Dr. ordered for me.;) ... and thanks for the story about your meeting with Dr. Lee Julie. I'd heard of his work through Dr. Christiane Northrup's books.
I'd like to see a "Masters" Forum here at Cathe. I'm of an age when Pyd. Ed was not encouraged for girls/women. You were a cheerleader or a tennis player/golf player at a Country Clubs. Not an "everyday athlete".
My generation fought for Title 9. There wasn't anyone to show us the way (that we knew about anyway) and it looks like my generation will be "showing the way" in how to be physically fit in the latter half of life.
Will we have a link for 70's and over here at Cathe? I hope so. Yikes! I'll be there in 13 years!:eek:
Colleen
 

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