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jgoycoolea
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Perhaps Cathe did it this way just to shake things up since presses usually come first. Or perhaps she put the slow raises first because after presses the muscle would be fatigued and proper form could be sacrificed. Jeanne
compound?
I did s/h legs & shoulders this morning. I don't understand your question. I though compound exercises meant it was a two-in-one move, like the combination fly/press move in PS chest. The shoulder presses in s/h are just military presses, no other move. In fact, we do 2 sets instead of 3 because the previous moves are so tough. I imgaine the front raises are done first so we can do them with good form before our shoulders become so fatigued
marnie
I did s/h legs & shoulders this morning. I don't understand your question. I though compound exercises meant it was a two-in-one move, like the combination fly/press move in PS chest. The shoulder presses in s/h are just military presses, no other move. In fact, we do 2 sets instead of 3 because the previous moves are so tough. I imgaine the front raises are done first so we can do them with good form before our shoulders become so fatigued
marnie
getnfit@38
Cathlete
RE: compound?
AMEN to that one! If the front raises came later in the shoulder section I would never get through them! And how about that little move at the end, the external something or others that you "think" are easy for the first few reps, then all of a sudden the back of your shoulder is on fire! Those are tough! I love this series
Donna
AMEN to that one! If the front raises came later in the shoulder section I would never get through them! And how about that little move at the end, the external something or others that you "think" are easy for the first few reps, then all of a sudden the back of your shoulder is on fire! Those are tough! I love this series
Donna
jgoycoolea
Cathlete
RE: compound?
A compound movement typically refers to a movement that involves more than one muscle group. Classic examples would be chest presses (chest, front delts, tris all involved) or squats (glutes, quads, hams all involved.)
Shoulder presses would use shoulders, tris, and perhaps some upper chest and traps too depending on your positioning.
A compound movement is contrasted with an isolation movement that only involves 1 muscle group. An example might be a bicep curl which only involves the biceps, or a leg extension for just the quads.
That said, I am not sure that there are any truly isolation movements. For example I think the bicep curl would involve some forearm. I also think the traps get worked a bit with front raises for the shoulders. But I think that on these movements the secondary muscle involvement is much less than with the "compound" movements.
Someone with more education than me (self taught by books and mags) can jump in here at any time. No insults taken.
You may have been thinking of a compound SET.
Hope this helps. Jeanne
A compound movement typically refers to a movement that involves more than one muscle group. Classic examples would be chest presses (chest, front delts, tris all involved) or squats (glutes, quads, hams all involved.)
Shoulder presses would use shoulders, tris, and perhaps some upper chest and traps too depending on your positioning.
A compound movement is contrasted with an isolation movement that only involves 1 muscle group. An example might be a bicep curl which only involves the biceps, or a leg extension for just the quads.
That said, I am not sure that there are any truly isolation movements. For example I think the bicep curl would involve some forearm. I also think the traps get worked a bit with front raises for the shoulders. But I think that on these movements the secondary muscle involvement is much less than with the "compound" movements.
Someone with more education than me (self taught by books and mags) can jump in here at any time. No insults taken.
You may have been thinking of a compound SET.
Hope this helps. Jeanne
RE: compound?
I theeeenk that a compound exercise is one that involves more than one JOINT movement, not more than one muscle group. There aren't many exercises (if any) that can completely isolate one muscle group.
So squats involve movement around the hip & knee joints, chest press or pushups - or military press - involve both the shoulder and elbow, and so on for other "compound" movements.
The prior explanation about why the military press is put into the workout after the single movements, makes sense to me. I have a hard enough time with those anterior delt raises even before I've done military press!
But I do hope, too, that Cathe will chime in here...
I theeeenk that a compound exercise is one that involves more than one JOINT movement, not more than one muscle group. There aren't many exercises (if any) that can completely isolate one muscle group.
So squats involve movement around the hip & knee joints, chest press or pushups - or military press - involve both the shoulder and elbow, and so on for other "compound" movements.
The prior explanation about why the military press is put into the workout after the single movements, makes sense to me. I have a hard enough time with those anterior delt raises even before I've done military press!
But I do hope, too, that Cathe will chime in here...