Runners' May 18 Tuesday

JAFitMama

JAFitMama

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Good Morning Runners-

Today is core max, floor legs and golfing! ( NO cart involved :) )

Tomorrow we will try our new loop which will be about 7.5 miles. I am not sure if I should do the legs or rest them for tomorrow. Last week I did Rythmic step and Push Pull and the next on the next days run my legs felt like lead.

Tommasina- I am the rookie of our group as far as running goes. However, I am pretty much a rebel and a cheerleader, so I am pushing us to increase distance SAFELY. :)

Best wishes to the runner with DD woes. I understand! We have 4 offspring whom are good kids, but can make poor choices from time to time. arghhhh!



Judy "Likes2bfit"


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Good Morning Judy and all who follow!!!:)

Judy: Have fun golfing! Will you be running from hole to hole? ;)

Okay runners...I need to pick your brains here for a minute if you don't mind!:) As you all probably know, I am new to running. I am really enjoying the change and would like to get better at it. How many times a week should I run in order to really work on increasing distance and then speed? I also do not want to over-do it and cause injury, etc so I'd like to cross-train w/low impact work outs like spin, my rebounder and the elliptical. I need to get in weights as well. I am having a hard time bringing this all together into one rotation. Can anyone give me any ideas? I work out 6 days per week.
Thanks in advance girls!:)
 
Hi ladies!

Judy-enjoy the no-cart golfing! LOL. I think many of us are rookies!

Wendy-I consider myself a rookie as well. I've been running less than a year and am still learning the terminology. But, my opinion on your question: The general rule of thumb is to increase your weekly mileage by no more than 10-15% at a time. So if you're running 10 miles a week now, increase next week's mileage by no more than 1.5 miles. Make sense? I also had a hard time fitting everything in when I began running. I missed running if I did a Cathe step, and vice versa. I have found that with lower mileage, my legs could handle the heavy weight work. But as the mileage increase, I decreased my weights so my legs could handle the long runs. My suggestion for you would be to run 3 times a week, perhaps 4 (and the 4th can be a cross training day like you mentioned). I hope that helps!

OK.....as for me. This morning was another 3 mile run. Then PUB up premix, GS push ups and GD triceps. Arms are wiggly! LOL

Can I check my notes? Here's what I've got jotted down as far as everybody's upcoming runs. Please correct me or add to the list:

Laura: Half Marathon 05/20/06
Shelly: Trail Race (first one) 06/03/06
Barb: Half Marathon 06/04/06
Pamela: 5K (first one) 07/09/06
Marci: Half Marathon 08/12/06 or 08/13/06 (Hudson WI over to Minnesota)
Carole: 50K 07/15/06 with sister, Ashland Oregon
Karen: Half Marathon (first one) 10/14/06
Gayle: Half Marathon in Philadelphia 09/17/06
Gayle: Full Marathon (Marine Corps) Washington DC 10/29/06

Gayle
 
Good Morning Eveyone. Today is a tempo run for me and some yoga. I didn't get a chance to check back in last night and today is looking just as busy. Hopefully I can get back here tonight or before I leave.

Judy- Have fun golfing today. My husband is a big time golfer. He is going to the LPGA tournament here in a few weeks. It's the the Mcdonald's LPGA Championship they hold in Maryland at Bulle Rock. It' about 10 min from my house so I bought him a vip pass to get on the course and club house.

Wendy- I'm almost as new as you to running but I started running 2 days a weeks then 3 and now it's 4 to 5 days.

Thomasina- I know I'm a little late from yesterday but just hang in there. You never know what happens or why things happen the way they do. I have a sister who to this day still baffels me as to why she feels so left out. She still at 40 is the only one of my mom's kids who can turn the whole family upside down. It's nothing we do. It's just in her. Hang in there.

Gayle- just posted with you. Have a great day. I love the list and am printing it out. I also have a 5k this Saturday the 20th.

Ok, I'm off to go running. Have a great day.
karen

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RE: Runners' May 18 thursday

hello,

I ran 3miles lastnight around 8:30pm. My husband thought I was nuts . It was a little drizzly with rain but over all very nice out. I will run tonight but make sure I only run 3-4miles and no more. this will be hard to do since I usually dont like running under 5miles but with the half this weekend I need to save my legs.

I will post saturday morning ,but wont be able to give results until later sunday. We dont run until sunday morning and I will be in cleveland until sunday evening. We are leaving saturday at noon ,spending the night at a hotel. I cant believe it is almost here. When you sign up for them, they seem so far away and before you know it, its time to race. anyway, off to work I go. have a nice day everyone!
 
RE: Runners' May 18 thursday

Laura-I'm getting EXCITED for you!!!! And yeah, they think we're nuts when we run at odd times and in odd situations, but OH WELL! LOL

Karen-I have an older sister like yours. Just when things calm down in our GROWN UP ADULT family, here comes Sis with some life-altering decision!

Elaine-I realized that I missed your St. George Marathon. When is that?

Gayle
 
RE: Runners' May 18 thursday

Good morning runners

Judy...a new loop sounds fun! I think if you just do floor legs today you should be okay for your run tomoroow. Doing PP and RS the day before a run I can see might tax the legs muscles a bit...:)

Wendy...Gayle is right about the percentage of increasing miles. I'd say maybe just run for 2 days a week for awhile , then add the 3rd day after maybe 4-6 weeks of 2 days. See how 3 days goes and then you can play with the speed and distance a bot more plus crosstrain...:)

Gayle..those GS workouts always give me giggly arms!! Wow...I think you did good on the upcoming races...except my 50K I will be doing alone...:)

Karen...have a a great tempo run. I bet you are getting excited about your 5K this Sat, now that you have one under your belt!!...:)...we will be cheering you on...

Laura...good idea to keep your distance low right now. I hope you do great in the half. I feel you have trained hard and can't wait to see how you do...Good Luck

Barb...I think rest was good for you testerday. It is always the best to listen to your body.

Elaine...its funny about trying a rotation. P90X is the only one I could ever finish with adding my running. I love Cathe workouts but none of her rotations ever seemed to work with running the way P90X does for me...I am just different...:)

Shelly, it took me awhile to figure out Picture trail and avatars myself!! Besides when I had slow dial-up it took FOREVER to upload pics to Picture trail...with Broadband it is sooooo much faster..:)

Christine... I do hope your foot is better today! I have not tried Amy but you are right about Billy's inconsistency...he does crack me up though...:D

Tomasina...I am sorry about your DD troubles..:(...I don't have any advice as I don't have kids. But I will pray for your DD and all of you and hope she comes home soon. I am glad you can get in a workout and run, sometimes that can help with the stress. Don't get me started on the P90X enabling....}(

I am doing some of the PLB standing exercises and them my own extensions and curls Pyramid style, a 6 mile run and maybe some Pilates after the run.

Have a great day...:)
 
RE: Runners' May 18 thursday

Carole- You have a jammed pack day today. I love reading about your workouts. You throw in such great combos. Totally well rounded. I am getting excited for this Saturday. I 'm more excited and less anxious this go round which is so much nicer. This time I know enough to put my number on the back. You think that would have been a given seeing all the numbers on the front but not for me. Someone had to tell me. This time I know. LOL

Laura- I can't wait to here about your half. I'm so excited for you. Tell your dh your not nuts . You know a bunch of girls who are just as crazy.

I finished my tempo run which kicked butt. Then instead of yoga I did stretch max. Now I'm off to oatmeal and errands.
karen

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RE: Runners' May 18 thursday

Thanks Karen...I hope I can get in the whole workout I planned!! Yes the best part about the 2nd race is being less anxious!! You will learn all kinds of things in this running racing adventure. Don't even worry about the small stuff...:)...Way to go with the tempo run!
 
Good morning everyone!

Judy, I love to golf but haven't had a chance in years. Well, since my DD was born in 2001! I only took it up a few years before that. I think I love it so much because my 2nd or 3rd time golfing I got a hole in 1! It was so funny! Everything seemed to be moving in slow motion as I watched that ball roll into the hole. And now my name is on a plaque in the clubhouse. My DH still gets out at least once a week, carried his clubs and calls it cross training! LOL!

Wendy, You've gotten great advice. The only thing I can add is stick with it. It will all come together!

Karen, Good luck on your 5K Sat!

Laura, I'm so skittish about running at odd hours that I don't think you could get me out the door to run at 8:30. I hope you are being safe. Do you carry pepper spray? Good luck on the 1/2 this weekend!

Carole, We have almost the same workout. I have the exact PLB planned with hamstring curls and extensions added on in pyramid style too! My schedule calls for 5 miles but I might not be able to fit it in because I have to take my DD to kindergarten roundup. It's sad for me but the bright side is come the end of August when school starts I can run any day of the week I want!

Gayle, I've got lots of runs coming up. I gotta go make lunches for DH and DS so I'll add them in a bit!
 
Wait! Karen! Are you saying I'm supposed to put my number on my back? Did I read that right? LOL. I've been putting it on my front this whole time! LOL Too funny!

Hi, everybody! Great workouts done and on tap! Keep up the good work!

Gayle

p.s. Elaine ( & everybody else)-list all your upcoming races, regardless of distance. I'll be sending in a bunch of applications this week so I'll add to the list as well!
 
Gayle I'm a total idiot. I mean I put it on my back first and then some guy said it needed to be on the front. Also which is funny. I pulled the little ticket off of it that they are suppose to pull when you cross the finish line. Well, when we got there I said to hubby what is this for. He said," I don't know just pull it off" Then as we are bunching together at the start I see all the little things on the race numbers. I thought Oh heck. I told dh to run to the car in the trash and get it and I safety pinned it back on. Good Greif. I'm getting smarter though.
karen

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Good Morning Everyone!
I'm finally finished with the semester and can settle firmly into SUMMER MODE! The 26 page paper is handed in, the final grades are turned in for all 300 of my students and I'm finally free!
So I've been a little busy and haven't been able to check-in, but I have been reading everyone's posts and it sounds like everyone is going so Strong!:) Except for Kathy's injury, and I reiterate the my Pm'd message to her--Get Well Soon Girl!

Judy-My vote is to go light on the legs today, just do things like, as you say floor work and/or the leg drills from KM. You'll be walking a lot with the golfing, carrying your clubs, etc. I think your body will thank you tomorrow.

Wendy-I agree with Gayle on the 3-4 times per week. I would suggest trying for 3 'types' of runs as well. A medium length steady state or tempo run, an shorter but more intense interval run, and a steady state 'long run'. I know you do most of your running on a treadmill, and I've never really used one very much, so I can't really translate these runs into speeds for you, sorry:)

Gayle-What an upper body BLAST this morning! I've got GS C+T on tap for either later today or tomorrow, I did HSTA yesterday and I'm still trying to decide if I'm ready for the drop set, lol!

Karen-What kind of tempo run are you doing? I've only ever done Carole's HRM one, (which I LOVE! thanks again Carole:7 ) but I'd like to have a few more at my disposal. Good luck this weekend! I'll be pulling for a PR for you, especially now that you know the ropes a little more.

Laura-You're not nuts! You're a runner and no matter what anyone says, those two things are not synonymous:p Best of luck this weekend, I can't wait to hear how it goes!

Carole-Your workout sounds great! It almost looks deceptively easy, except we know that "own extensions and curls Pyramid style" probably entails some tough stuff! And then 6 miles on top of that, forget Cathe's bionic legs, I want to know where you shopped for yours, lol:+ I have a quick question about your interval run that ShellyC posted for me earlier this week. When you are intervaling, you do 1 min. sprints and then 2.5 recovery right? Whenever I've been doing my own interval runs I never let myself recover this long, usually I go 1 min. sprint, 1 min. recovery--with a couple 30/1 and 1/2 or 90/2 thrown in. Does this make sense? I just wondering what the benefits are for the longer recovery period and if I should be alternating different interval runs? Sorry this got so long, but thanks for letting me pick your brain again!

Elaine-So clearly you and Carole shopped at the same source for those legs, lol ;-)

Thomasina-Things will work out with DD, teenagers, even the good ones, do crazy things! My younger cousin was ALL over the place with her behavior, and now she has a job, is in college and about to move out on her own. It just takes time and lots of tough love. You'll be in my thoughts.

Barb-Thanks for you "rotation flexibility" compliment a few days ago! I also used to feel the "slave to the rotation" feeling when I first started working out consistently, but now I pretty much go with the flow. Weather, work, school, family--I wouldn't want that stuff to go away, but as Christine says, I hate when life gets in the way of working out! I figure so long as I keep moving I'll get there eventually (where ever 'there' is)

Amy-I hope your blister's doing better today and that there are no more 'explosive' incidents! There should be a parental warning on posts from you and Sarah!

Christine-Is your foot feeling better today? You were wise to cut out Imax 3 yesterday. I've sometimes had the same happen from running a new course or having my shoe laces too tight. Try some massage and soaking it as well as stretches every few hours, especially if you've been off of it for some time.

ShellyC-A belated you look AWESOME in your picks! I've always wanted to kayak-I already love canoeing, but I don't live in the greatest area for it. How long have you been at it and was it hard to get good at?

Yesterday I managed HSTA+Cardio and Abs from HSC. Today was a 5+ mile run (I'll measure it in the car later today) and probably GS C+T plus some yoga this evening. All the recent talk of Mr. Yummypants has gotten me in the mood (for YOGA that is, jeez you guys!;-) )
 
Good morning all - I think it was indeed just a Twinge or Tweak or whatever you want to call it. I am walking limp free right now. I did Legs and Glutes this morning with no pain, and I'm planning on doing a cardio coach on the elliptical this afternoon (not quote ready to push it far enough to add impact yet!). But I'm so relieved! Thanks everyone for your good thoughts and wishes - they certainly worked!
 
Hi Running Women,

After a day of rest and dipping into my husband's P90X and doing Stretch X I'm feeling a little better in the low back and hips. I tried to run this morning, 6 miles on a course that included what the last three miles of the half would be -- so I could get an idea of the hill It went ok. I felt good, but I was stiff afterwords and did more stretching.

I may take a few more days off, since the rest seemed to help. It seems like I should have waited one more day. On the other hand, it's hard to tell??? Go figure. I did Coremax 2 and a few more stretches. The Frog Stretch, Low Squat stretch and bow seem to help. Which is making me think I've got a hip flexor muscle issue. Also stretching my obliques makes the hip pain-low back pain lessen.

Ok enough of ER talk.....

It seems like everyone is off to a great day.

Karen -- thanks for the tip on # placement. If they don't hand me that number with a map and color-coded picture, I'm gonna' be lost on where to put the darn thing! Good luck to you this weekend. You are on fire, girl. You go and keep eating that oatmeal!!

Gayle -- thanks for writing up everyone's races. Very helpful. I can't believe you have only been running a year. That's awesome. You've got a lot of races on your future plate. This half marathon of mine June 4 is my first. I've run one 5K before a few years ago, but had no idea what I was doing. Great upper body workout this a.m. What's GD triceps? Did you do all those pushups on GS from GS Chest & Tri? Yowza!

Carole -- thanks for the support re: resting. It did seem good. After previewing more of the P90X tapes I can see how they would blend well with running. After my race, I'm going to try them out. I may try the leg tape sooner, because a lot of exercises reminded me of some shown to me in physical therapy. Hope your run and lower body work went well. Pilates sounds like a good idea after PLB.

Judy -- Good you're being careful on increasing the distance of the long run. I learned by being stupid and increasing too fast that it's important to take that no-more-than-10% or even 5% per week rule to heart. Did I read somewhere else that your long run weekly should not be longer than 1/3 or is it 1/2 of your weekly mileage? Maybe someone else knows this??

Wendy-I think Carole's idea is good about number of days per week. I find I do better with a few more rest days. But that's just what my body can do. When I was younger, I did better with more days of running shorter distances...I do more cross training now and run 4 days a week and two of the days are "easy" as listed, but still work for me. Whatever I do I kind of follow a hard-easy-hard-easy pattern. I got into trouble doing too tough of weight workouts on the "easy" cardio days and felt unbalanced.

Elaine--good luck at K roundup. I hope the teachers are nice and your DD has a fun visit!
Have a great workout today!

Laura -- good luck on your race. I know you'll do great!:)

Thomasina--I'm sending good vibes your way and common sense vibes to your DD, hoping this all works out in time. :)

Shelly - I thought of you today on my run as I did a hill -- not a hard, hard, hill like your race hills, but a hill and I thought it would be good for me to see/run this hill before the D-Day. hope you have a great day!

Hi to everyone else checking in later today. I'm off to work.

Have a great rest of the day!!
:) :) :)
Barb
 
Thanks for all the great advice ladies! I jotted down some notes and now will sit down w/coffee and try to come up with a rotation! Wish me luck!:p
 
Okay, I have some time to say hi to everyone!

Judy - That trail sounds wonderful! I love that you're the team leader as a "rookie". You know your stuff!

Wendy - I've been running 3/4 days a week. When I first started I was told not to run more than 4 days a week. Obviously that's not for everyone, but it works for me.

Gayle - Don't forget that Thomasina, Elaine, Amy and I are running the Wine Country Half July 16th! Thanks for keeping track!

Karen - oh enjoy your tempo run! They're hard, but they feel so good when you're done!

Laura - Oh have fun! I'll be praying for some clear weather for ya!

Carole - Your days sounds wonderful *sighs*. Especially as it's cooler today here in California!

Elaine - I want to see a listing of all your runs, too - I may be able to run a few with you!

Mattea - OH! Enjoy SUMMER MODE!! WHOO HOO!!! Nothing like that feeling of getting out of school and having the summer ahead - can't imagine it changes much as an adult.

Barb - Sounds like that rest day did you wonders!

Well, foot is better. I am debating on whether or not I'm going to push it with the ellipitcal today. We'll see. Legs and Glutes was okay, but I'm a bit worried about what a steady pressure like that will do. May just wait one more day. We'll see.

I just got a call from my friend in Vail. She has invited me to come out to see her 2 weeks after the half and do some climbing with her. We're going to do a double header - Mount Shavano and Mount Tabeguache (http://www.summitpost.org/view_object.php?object_id=16007 ) I'm very excited as I'll be in good shape from running - the climb will be easier.
 
LMAO!:7 I posted this a while ago and just now realized that I had posted it on the wrong day! I posted it on YESTERDAY'S thread like a dope! LOL So here it is...copied and pasted for your reading enjoyment!:p


After much racking of the ol' dusty brain, I think I have finally created a doable rotation for myself...now let's see if I stick to it! LOL I decided not to try to include too many different things cause that's when it gets super difficult to fit it all in!

I am too lazy to post it but it has me running 2x in weeks 1 and 3 and 3 times in weeks 2 and 4. I have 1 elliptical work out included each week as well as 3 endurance weight work outs: one f/b, one l/b and one u/b. The F/B is Slim Series, the u/b is Cathe and the l/b will be either Cathe or SS.

Gayle: GS push ups are KILLER! Gotta love it! Hope you had a nice run.

Karen: Hope the yoga was relaxing for you.

Laura: Best of luck!!!

Carole: When you run shorter distances do you pick up the pace?

Elaine: Thanks for the encouragement!

Mattea: So you did HSTA and THEN did the cardio and abs from HSC yesterday? WOW! You go girl! I don't own HSTA but have heard it's killer!

Christine: Hope the elliptical work out went well for you. The climbing you will be doing sounds great! Have a blast!

Barb: It's amazing to me how much extra rest days can help when your body isn't quite right yet we kick and scream about it! LOL Well, I do anyway. Today is a rest day that I am taking strictly because I think I need it. It's not on the schedule and I've had to fight the urge to work out all day!
 
Hey everyone - OMG!!! Life could not be any busier at this very moment for me. I'm just checking in quick to say "HI" wish everyone good luck on any upcoming races and training. I figured my calendar wrong and I don't "officially" start my 1/2 training until this Monday, but I've gotten out a few times to relieve stress and get ready to roll......... ;-)

Hopefully I can check-in more soon, especially when my training is consistant. Uhhh, I can't wait to have a consistant schedule for something - anything.........

If I have one more meeting I just might scream x( Oh, wait I do Monday night - huh - silly me x( :+ x(

Anyway - just had to vent a little there, see you all very soon!

Marcia.
 
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