Runner's Cehck In 05/10

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Good morning, ladies! Up and AT 'EM!!!!!!!!!!

I'm feeling SO MUCH better today. The cloud has lifted outo f my head and I CAN BREATH.......always a good thing, right? LOL

Barb-your question from yesterday...keep your mileage this week to the prescribed 7. Taper means to TAPER, not maintain a high mile count. Follow the program you've been following and you'll be fine! My 2 pennies, at least.

Elaine-I forgot to comment about St. George! I did a whooping dance (or was that a cough, lol) the other day about your lottery pick! That's FANTASTIC! When is that race? Also, you said you'd be putting together a training routine....willing to share it?

OK...since I'm feeling better, I got up early and did Leaner Legs with abs, plus extras! I was itching to get on that treadmill, but I wanted to ease myself back into working out, so I stayed away for today! TOUGH! LOL

I'm looking at which program to follow for my marathon training now. I checked out the one on Runner's World and liked it. I just know that I don't want to follow the program the Team In Training coach gives us. I followed it for the Disney marathon, but I just didn't feel like there was ENOUGH running in it, if that makes sense. No speed work, no intervals. So, this time around I'm looking for something a bit different and a bit harder!

Happy WEDNESDAY!

Gayle
 
I'm following you on over here Gayle. LOL

Today I did PUB and the abs from slow and heavy bi and tri's. I hate to tack on the ab work from PUB after working so hard with the bi's. So I opted for an easier ab workout where I didn't have to suspend over top of a ball shaking for dear life. Then I got on the treadmill and ran a two mile easy run.

Question= when training for a marathon or half marathon. How long in advance do you begin to train for this. I noticed last night there is a Baltimore Marathon in Oct. I was wondering if you think a half marathon for me is doable by then and if so when do I really begin to focus on that. Baltimore is about 40 min from me and it looks very exciting. I know it is a qualifier for the Boston Marathon. I only lived in Maryland my whole life but never bothered to realize we had our own fabulous marathon. Anyway what are your thoughts"
karen

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Karen-I am no expert. But I believe there's plenty of time between now and October. 16-20 weeks is what I'm shooting for. That's what I was 'taught' when training for Disney.

While we're talking marathon training plans, what or who does everybody follow? Hal Higdon, Jeff Galloway, Runner's World, somebody or something else? I'm curious!

Gayle
 
hello everyone,

Just got done running 3.5miles this morning. The air was perfect, it was a beautiful morning to run. I forgot how much I love running first thing in the morning.

anyway I posted later lastnight so I dont know if any of you got to read my post but maybe gayle already answered it for me. My brother and his wife are running 10miles this weekend, one week before the big half marathon. My program calls for me to only run 7miles since I ran 14 this past sunday. I am wondering if I should go higher like them,thinking maybe i would benefit from it or will I hinder myself? my half is may 21st. My brother and his wife are doing the same one as me.

karen I followed a 17week training program this time around and feel I am more prepared for my half marathon that is coming up. Before I had only trained 12weeks and ran only 3 days. I am running 3-4days this time around also. I used a combination of hal higdon and jeff galloways programs. I like them much better than runners world programs, thats my opinion anyway. I just feel I am stronger this time around in following theirs. hope that helps

hope everyone has a good workout and a good day.
 
Thanks girls, this makes me think that it's doable for me. I was hoping everyone would think it was possible. I just want to be prepared. My First Half marathon. I think I just might do it. Laura I'm getting so excited for you on the 21st. How great is that your family is running it as well.
karen

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Morning,
Well....I got up late again! Geez, I'm starting to annoy myself, lol! I decided to stay home and make the most of my time (gym commute is 20 minutes of my time back & forth). I did Gym Style Chest/Shoulders/Triceps and the step premix from Low Max. I also made sure I stretched out after with the stretch segment of Cardio Kicks.

I joined a volleyball team that plays on Wednesday's after work. It's been 3 years since I played but I'm excited! But that means I won't be able to run after work. ;(

I actually printed out a Runner's World marathon schedule last night. I used my half marathon time with moderate training and 31-35 miles a week. It gave me a pretty good schedule that went from 31-47 miles a week, 2 easy runs, 1 speed or tempo run, and a long run on Saturday. I'm going to look it over more later and decide. I may use this one for the fall Philly marathon. I'm also contemplating doing the Atlantic City Marathon which is always the middle of October (four weeks out from the Philly marathon). The course is very flat and I'd run it as my last long training run and taper after... Any opinions, do you think it would be too much? :eek:

For now I'm using the book "4 Months to a 4 Hour Marathon" which is the same basic priciples as the RW marathon schedule - just shorter easy runs.

Laura....I agree, do your scheduled 7 miles this weekend so you feel STRONG for your half next weekend.

Karen....we posted at the same time, lol! I think you'd do super with a half this fall. I also think 16 weeks of training is plenty since you already run (pretty well, I might add!) ;)

Have a good one,
Kathy G
 
Good morning everyone...:) :)

Today was supposed to be 7 miles with 3 intervals of a mile each at a fast pace. I couldn't quite keep my pace up outside on the intervals, but ran the 7 miles in 65" and feel ok. I wasn't as quite as fast as I was on my 11 mile run on Saturday, but I am trying to work with where I am at and my HR is where it is supposed to be at this pace. I am a novice at training for a race, but have run for fitness for 20 some years. (that's scary to see in print!)

My problem is feeling intermittently pooped out in between runs. I feel like I do not have down a good rhythm of how much I need to eat before and after a long run to recover properly.

Gayle-- I'm not at the taper point yet, I think it might have been Laura? who asked about tapering. I have four weeks to go as a novice for a half-marathon and my goal is basically finishing in under 2 hours and 10 " -- which I know is slow, but I've only run a 5K race once before and my goal is to finish at any speed.
Glad you are feeling better, though!

Karen-- I kept doing different training programs of different distances until I felt like I could do a half-marathon. I think if you want to do it,you can! I had an injury to my hip 2 years ago and have approached increasing my distance in a very slow and careful way so as not to reinjure. The Smart Runner program at runners world lets you plug in how many total weekly miles you want to run -- and I found it gave me more flexibility than the HH program. I felt in between levels with HH and couldn't find a good match that worked for me.

Laura-- good luck to you. Your race is so soon. I have Hal Higdon's book on training for a marathon and another book (I read too much) and there are stories in there about people who don't taper and regret it. I am not experienced with this myself, so I'm curious what seasoned runners like Carole, Elaine, Sarah & Shelly C will have to say.

My kids have no school today, so I need to get going with the day.

I didn't want to get out the door this morning and thought of what Sarah said about how quitting is never an option. It's great to have support here!

Barb

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Barb-sorry about that. Too many names for this pea-brain of mine! LOL

Kathy-I think you'll be fine with Philly and AC. I'm doing the exact same thing. I've got Philly half on Sept 17 and Marine Corp Full on October 29th. I've checked the training schedule I used for Disney and the way it's laid out is perfect for a half just before the full. I think you'll be fine. I'm excited to meet you in Philly. Won't that be fun?

Gayle
 
Good morning Runners

Gayle, sounds like you are raring to go. The last time I trained for a marathon I did an advanced training schedule from the Runner's World site. My training is similar to Kathy's, I alternate easy days amd hard days and my long run is on Sun.

Karen...I think a half is doable in oct and what Gayle said about 16-20 weeks sounds good to me. Jut remember to increase your weekly miles slowly..:)

Kathy...I do think I've had that pain in the rear!! Sitting on ice a few times a day helped...:)..I haven't played Volleyball in a long time, but I played on teams in High School and College...:). I also found an interesting 50K training schedule if you want to check it out. Looks tough http://www.nttr.org/html/training_guidelines.htm

Sarah..I bet that massage was wonderful and you so deserved it. Hope your recovery run/walk last night was fun. We will be looking forward to some pics....:)

Thanks Elaine...I have always been an early riser! Probably more so in the summer when our temps get into the 100's...60 min on the elliptical...WOW!!!

Shelly!!! How fun!! I think you can handle 15K on trails easily...:)..your dirt roads can be good trail training..

Christine..glad your allergies and heartburn went away. I agree SIM is alot of fun..Sounds like you had a great treadmill run..

Mattea...yes GS does work those Biceps well. I still am in awe of Cathe using a 20lb Dumbell for the concentration curls...YEOW!! My weekly shorter runs are anywhere between a 9:15 and 10:00 pace. I am trying to get faster, but this age thing...:)

Barb...my 6 mile run was good despite the wind. I think SIM warmed my body up well. MM is one of my favs from Cathe..:)...training and speedwork does take some experimenting Barb, you'll get it...

Laura...have your brother and his wife been running for a longer time than you? I can see some runners wouldn't have a probelm doing 10 or 11 miles a week from the half. I'd say for you to stick to Hal's schedule.

I am doing the Kicking and punching combos from Kickmax, abs, and a 5 mile run..

Have a great day...:)
 
Good morning,

First, congratulations to Gayle, Sarah, Elaine, Karen, and any other recent racers I may have missed. (I'm working from memory. :)) Your stories have been such an inspiration.

I've finally mustered up the nerve to post here. I've been reading the check-in for awhile (since you all started it actually, :+ ), and you are a very inspirational, hard-working, and supportive group of athletes. I'm training for my first 5K, and I'm using the Runner's World smart coach training plan in conjunction with Cathe's March rotation. I have Galloway's book, and a few others, but the book I seem to gravitate towards the most is Claire Kowalchik's The Complete Book of Runing for Women.

Monday was my long run which for me was 6 miles (My first time!). (The course was actually 6.5, but I walked about .5 mile.) Monday was also GS Chest and Tri, and I still have DOMS! :) (Oh, and I'm definitely a turtle as it took me about 1.6 hrs. :))

Yesterday was GS Legs, (standing only), and today is an easy run of 2 miles plus 30min of additional cardio (probably a bike ride).

The race is July 9, and I have to say I am really enjoying preparing for it. This running is definitely addictive!

Take care, and have a wonderful day,
Pamela
 
Barb...I'm similar in that I've worked out for 22 years but have only run for the last 6. You're doing great, especially coming back from on injury! :)

Thanks Carole! I'm going to look over that site better later. It looks like it has tons of great information. Volleyball is so much fun, huh? I started about 6 years ago and played for 3, and then I wasn't able to play for 3. The team that "signed me up" won last years season so I'm trying not to be intimidated, lol! But as you know, you're only as good as your teammates and I think they're really going to elevate my game. ;-)

Gayle....I'll be running The Distance Run, too (probably behind you, lol!) I'm a turtle, but I'm a STRONG turtle....lol! :p

Welcome Pamela! So nice to meet you. You're doing super on your 5k training.

Kathy G
 
Carole,

Yes, this is my first 5K. I'm nervous and excited at the same time. Thanks for the welcome -- it feels good to no longer lurk. :)
I'd better get outside before it gets too hot!

BFN :)
Pamela
 
Pamela- Your first 5k. If you kept with the posts last week you know how nervous I was with my first as well. Now that it is under my belt I feel like I can take on the world. These ladies worked me through every step of it. They were there to answer all my questions and curb my anxiety. It was the best thing i ever did for myself. I know you can do it. I'm so excited for you becaue i was just there at that point last week. It's a mixture of nerves and exhiliration all at once. It's amazing. July 9th we will be here for you.

Carol- How many miles do you suggest I increse per week? Also do you have any races coming up so I can cheer you on?

Kathy G- a half and a full, not only do we post at the same time we must have been thinking alike last night as well.

Barb- Thanks for the info on the half training. I know you will do great in your in yours. You are so smart with your training that it's easy to take advice from all of you.
karen

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Quick Hi again

Pamela -- Hi! I have Claire Kowalchik's book and liked it a lot. I thought it had a lot of good info. Good luck on your race coming up.

Kathy G. & Carole -- thanks for the vote of confidence. :)

Kathy G. I tried sitting on a tennis ball to help get at the sore spot for the pririformis problem. Also, I found the Glute Raises or Tucks (???help, the one where your heel is on the step, one leg raised and you press up ) very helpful for loosening the glute muscles. But I had to play around with the angle, step height and weight. For me, a slow pace or the pulses can serve as a wake-up stretch for the glute-soreness situation.

I haven't tried ice on the rear -- but that sounds like a great idea.

Gayle -- It's hard to keep track of everyone here, but lots of fun. At least your brain is vegan!!! :) :)

Mattea- I tried making Nancy Clark's (From her book on sports nutrition) homemade sports drink today and it worked better for me than the Gatorade did:
Here's the recipe:
3 1/2 C ice water
1/4 C o.j.
2 T lemon juice
1/4 t salt
1/4 C sugar or can use sugar substitute.
1/4 C boiling water.

Dissolve the sugar + salt in boiling water. Then add the rest of the ingredients and shake well. I made a half a recipe and was out of lemon juice and it's about 18 g carb and 70 calories and 30 g sugar.

have a great day everyone!!:) :)
Barb
 
Hi Running People :)

Welcome Pamela

I haven't been on this site much, but am keeping up with my 3-4 running days per week, and Cathe weight work. I tried Imax the original yesterday and really liked it. This morning's run was a 6 mile rolling hill route. It was pleasant.

I hope everyone has good workouts today.


Judy "Likes2bfit"


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Good morning everyone! My goodness we have alot of activity so far this morning...alot of chatty runners!

Pamela- a very warm welcome to you! Glad you decided to jump in! We don't care if you run 3 miles or 30 no matter what the pace...if you love to run that's all that counts. You're at 6 miles...fantastic! You'll have fun at your first 5 k and will become addicted, I guarantee it.

Judy- I haven't done IMAX the original for a while, I think I'll dust it off soon, it's a classic sweat producer!

Thomasina- your life sounds so hectic and you're still having time to get in running and planning for your half...you are awesome!

Kathy- definitely sounds like you're dealing with piriformis syndrome- aka- the pain in the butt! I've dealt with this on and off and doing stretches that target the glutes do help. Also with flare ups I apply direct massage and heat. Someone mentioned sitting and rolling on a tennis ball. I do this also and it works! As far as
your marathon schedule... you are a smart and tough lady and I know you can certainly handle this.

Laura- there are advanced training plans which call for 10 miles or so a week before a half but the intermediate and beginning plans will call for less, like what you are following. If this is your first HM, definitely a proper taper is a must...you won't regret it!

Barb- you are right on track with your training it sounds...go Barb!
to maintain energy it is so important to eat a good healthy serving of carbs within an hour of a long or strenuous run...sometimes this can be difficult!

Karen- you running animal you!!!What have we created?? I have no doubt whatsoever that you can do a half marathon by October.

Carole- I mispoke on my last post...the trail run I'm doing in June
is a 10K, not 15 but since I am a novice at trail running it is better to be doing a short race to start with. It sounds like we run at pretty identical paces in training 9:15-10. I have so many regrets about starting running so late in life. I am 49 and so often ask myself...what if? I feel age now limits me in what I can achieve.....sigh!

Time to go work...today is L&G followed by some bootcamp!!

ShellyC
 
Gayle-So glad that you’re feeling better! I was just reading yesterday about marathon training on Runner’s World and the importance of speedwork and intervals, especially in the first part of the training and then building endurance. Something about teaching your body to burn glycogen at a slower rate, more effectively, so that “the wall” (sorry Sarah, it I know, it doesn’t “exist”) gets pushed further and further out.

Karen-I always do the ab work from PUB before I do any upper body lifting, or cardio even, then I’m not “hanging over a ball shaking for dear life” and can concentrate on feeling the work in the abs and not the arms. Lol! See you’ve got the race bug now too! I think you can definitely shoot for the half !

Laura-Again, I was reading on Runner’s World yesterday a program for a half, and it had you tapering 2 weeks in advance (all this reading and no actual experience is going to get me in trouble =-)). I would say give your body the chance to recover and rest a little more and your body will be thanking you come race day!

Kathy-Enjoy your volleyball and fit the running in where you can, then you can have two fun activities to look forward to!

Barb-65 is a very solid time for 7 miles, it’s a little under 9:30 for each mile. And like you said, you are working smart, listening to your body and monitoring your HR. And yes, Sarah ought to start a t-shirt company and start making some money off her inspiring advice! One of my recent favorites was to Karen before her 5K, “If you’re not having fun then what’s the point?”

Carole-When you do another cardio workout before your runs do you get right into the run, or do you still do a warm up? I know what you mean about those 20's, I’m not ashamed to admit picking up a 12 near the end sometimes =-)

Pamela! Welcome !!! Sounds like you are well on your way to an very successful 5K-GSCT always starts me off with muscle failure and leaves me with DOMS, lol. Congratulations on your new mileage. So glad you’ll be joining us in logging in the miles ;-)

Barb-That recipe sounds great! I’ve been looking into making my own sports drink, what I don’t I make on my own? Well, I still buy peanut butter, and I haven’t learned how to actually make an apple...yet =-) I’m going to give that a try, but I have some potassium in capsules that I may open up and toss in, I always seem to need the extra potassium. Also, I’m a very salty sweater and I like being able to adjust the sodium content for my needs and the weather.

Judy-I just got the first Imax on DVD and know I’ll be adding it in quite a bit more now. Having it on VHS it was so hard to mix and match from it, but now that I have all three on DVD I’m thinking of putting together an “Imax Ultra” with my personal toughies from all three =-)

ShellyC-Enjoy L&G, that’s one of my all-time faves! Followed by the whole BC video? That’s a combo I’ll have to keep in mind.


Sarah-Hope you enjoyed your recovery walk and had a good time swapping race stories with your training comrades.

Today was an extra long stepping day for me. I did Stepworks for the first time ever and really enjoyed it. I did the warm-up and first 2 combos on 8 inches and then the last one on 6 inches, boy did that keep the HR up! Then I tacked on the step from CTX-All Step just to really bring it home. What a fun combination:7
Mattea
 
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