RE: 75% diet and 25% exercise

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kimyenchu

Cathlete
Hello everyone,

There seems to be a lot of interest in this post and a lot of responses to it. What I have noticed is that people are missing the crucial point here.

Eating healthy (or clean as you Americans like to call it) is NOT just about weight control, it's about good health in general. Fresh fruit, vegetables and meat, fish and fats is about more than weight loss, it's about longevity and preventing diseases: cancer, heart, diabetes, etc. It's about a healthy mind and a healthy body.

It has been scientifically proven that certain foods can help us fight against cancer. Eating healthy is about giving your body the right nutrients to sustain your body in the long term aim of health and fitness. Fruits and vegetables contain vitamins and anti-oxidants to give us younger looking skin, healthy hair, nails and boost your immune system so that you can fight against pollution in the environment. Fish has Omega-3 oils that can keeps your joints supple (like putting oil in a car). Soya contains properties that can prevent some cancers (Japan has the lowest rate of breast cancer in the world and this has been attributed to their diet of fish and soya). Milk and dairy has calcium, which gives strong bones thus preventing osteoporosis in later life (this is a concern for women who have been anorexic in their teens). A good diet can also help in cases of depression.

Now for women like our friend Shari, eating a good diet will help in some of the problems she has mentioned.

I don't mean to sound harsh or rude here, but this obession with weight is getting waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy out of control for some of you. It's a vicious cycle. Get off it!

Yen
 
Yes, Yen, so true! A good diet has improved my health dramatically! And like you, I'm all for clean eating--for all of its benefits.

But--(here it comes) unless I, and many others like me, can eventually get into a healthy weight range, we will never be able to take advantage of the full effects of a program of clean eating and regular exercise. So weight loss is not just an obsession based on looks alone. It is vitally important for some of us (although certainly not at the expense of healthy eating). Does that make sense?
 
I think for you it's not really about food as portion control. Like you mentioned in the other post, feeling full is when you can't 'waddle'. That is another problem, that is self control and it is more than about food. It is a psychological problem that when people are depressed they turn to food for comfort. You want to find out why it is that you cannot stop when you are full, what drives you to continue when others have stopped or binge when others don't.

Do you eat out loneliness, boredom, depression?

Yen
 
Yen,

That was exactly what my point was above in the original thread.I just posted there before seeing this thread. You said it well and I totally agree.

I'll admit when I first started working out years ago is was all about vanity. After having a baby I'd lost my tight trim body but after a few years and getting thin again I needed something more as a goal. It was a natural growing process. I slowly got healthier and more energetic as a cleaned up my diet.

I want to be able to run around with my Grand kids not sit in the rocker watching, if I'm lucky. This goal keeps me in line way better than the thin goal but as a result I look better now than I ever have, even before having a child. Hope that makes sense.
 
Hi, me again. I have never participated in a particular thread for this long. I want to say this is a great thread and very interesting. Any other time I have participated in a thread such as this at another forum, it has become heated and I normally step aside and even stop reading it. I want to commend everyone participating in this thread and say thank you for not letting it get heated because I'm actually enjoying reading all the comments and seeing everyones opinions.

Thanks, Kelley
 
Wow. So, I just read all through the other post, and it made my stomach tighten up and my heart started racing and I am shaking! Honestly, and the reason is because I am one of those people who has such an emotional relationship with food and has tried to control it my whole life and so many people have tried to tell me what to do and I went to "fat doctors" when I was little.....
I finally got really thin by starving myself and running constantly when I was 18. As all of you recovering anorexics know, being skinny turns out to not make you any happier because it turns out that we are "fat between our ears."
I had to get a therapist who specializes in eating disorders, and like I said in the other thread--LET GO OF THE NUMBERS AND PERCENTAGES, keep healthy food in my house, use common sense and be gentle with myself. But that's just what works for me.

This forum is an awesome place to find support and to hear people who are going through similar things and working to be fit, but if your relationship with food is as painful for you as it has been for me you might need to get your diet advice from a doctor. It is so hard and stressful and scary to navigate the world of fad diets and advice from TONS of well meaning people.
I think this subject has been so heated because it is such an emotional issue for most of us, and instead of arguing any particular diet or perspective, I would just like to say that it makes me sad to see so many wonderful women being so hard on themselves and I really hope everyone finds something that works for you to relieve the obsession with food and lets you be fit and happy.

Ariel :)

Ariel
 
Oh yeah--

I'm just easy on myself about food....NOT about working out. My fiance calls me a "work-out freak." What can I say, I love it!

Ariel
 
Hey Yen,
I agree with you. I'm just chiming in to say that when I see 'diet' used in such a way as it was in this question, I don't think 'Beverly Hills Diet' or 'Atkins Diet', I think of the word diet as another way to say 'what is your regular food intake like'. Not in the quick-fix frame of mind. That is the way I read that question, and that is how i responded to it when I said 100% of both. Do you get me?
Kathy
 
I started this thread and it's been very informative. Thanks to everyone.

Since I began to eat "clean" very clean matter of fact I have to say I've not had a cold or a sore throat or missed a day of work due to illness. My PMS/perimenapause issues are gone and so are the hot flashes I was having. I've lost 70 lbs and feel a whole lot better. My brain chemistry is really impacted by what I eat or don't eat. I can't deny that for me. Neither can I deny feeling 100% better.

I love to workout that's not something I have to force on myself now. I need the endorphins if nothing else.

So my decision is although it's a bore and it's hard many days and I want things made from prepackaged food and sweets and so forth every once in a while I'm gonna keep on with what I'm doing.

I've followed the program from Kathleen DeMasions who wrote Potatoes Not Prozac, The Sugar Addicts Total Recovery Program and Your Last Diet for the last 4-5 years now. It's working and I'm gonna keep working it.

Here's a link if anyone wants to take a look at her website and I'd love to hear what any of you think about it too.

http://radiantrecovery.com :)
 
I agree with everyone here, but I know it is important to have a healthy diet for nutrition purposes as well..Yen, you mention this. Realize that if you do eat "junk" you are automatically pushing out some other healthy food that could have been included in your diet. That does not mean your diet is unhealthy by any means, but, could be healthier....

And this is coming from someone who regularly eats ice cream and peanut butter...just a thought....

Janice
 
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