protein intake, STS, and results

[jgoycoolea]

Is it fair to say that if one is unable/unwilling/undedicated enough to consume the typically recommended (in the industry, not by Cathe per se) one gram of protein per pound of body wieght or lean body weight, that even STS is not going to result in muscle building? Thanks, Jeanne

 

[LovingLife]

I think that's outdated nutritional information. I know that many body builders believe they can only gain muscle mass with a lot of protein, but there are new studies (and many athletes to back it) that say you don't need that much protein (and that plant sources are sufficient and superior for assimilation).

Dr. Joel Fuhrman (practicing doctor and author of Eat to Live) has written a lot about this, but sometimes hearing from the athletes themselves is nice too -- http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/ -- Check out the Profiles and Gallery.

 

[maddiesmum]

Interesting link Renee, thanks for posting it.

I don't really worry about how many grams of protein I consume, I just try and have some cheese, some yoghurt, some eggs, some beans and some lentils every day and protein at at least 2 meals a day. With my heavy upper body weight training and non-fussy approach, I have managed to put on visible muscle and I'm a hard gaining vegetarian.

Clare

 

[LovingLife]

One interesting thing that Dr. Fuhrman says is (unless someone's anorexic) that people in the developed world don't need to worry about being deficient in protein, even if they're body builders. He says that the increased amount of protein for body builders is proportionate to the increased need of calories. So if you just eat more of the healthy foods you were eating before to make up for the caloric needs, the protein will go up with it -- no need to overload just on the protein.

 

[kathryn]

>Is it fair to say that if one is unable/unwilling/undedicated
>enough to consume the typically recommended (in the industry,
>not by Cathe per se) one gram of protein per pound of body
>wieght or lean body weight, that even STS is not going to
>result in muscle building?

The only 'industry' I've seen that recommends that much protein is the bodybuilding world, and not everyone does so. I think even Arnold S. (I won't even try to spell that!) has recommended less than that: 1 gm per km. (around 1/2 gm./pound).

As Gunnar Peterson says : you have to eat big to get big (that's calories, not any particular macronutrient breakdown).

 

[SirenSongWoman]

Just out of curiosity, how do you find out how many grams are in a chicken breast, for instance? I understand ounces but don't "get" grams. Also, If I weigh 170 but I WANT to get down to, say, 130lbs. would I calculate based on the amount I weigh now or the amount I WANT to weigh? I eat protein every 2-3 hours but have no clue if I'm eating enough or too much. Anyone know?

 

[Vee]

I am vegetarian too. I recently gave up eggs. I want to give up dairy but am finding it difficult. The rest was easy, never craved it after giving up.

I get my protein from dairy, soy, lentils. I am a hard gainer too. I can feel hard muscle when I contract a body part, but there is a layer of fat over it that I need to shed. My quads and hammies have perceptible muscle. I had to up protein to get here (my diet was all carb, veggie, fruit), but nowhere near 1 gm per pound of body weight.


~* Vrinda *~

 

[Beavs]

I use a food scale as I carefully monitor my protein intake to make sure I am actually eating enough. People have all kinds of commentary, accurate and inaccurate, on protein intake but you have to do what works for you and do a little of your own research from credible sources.