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kaylasmom321
Cathlete
Ok, I am a hairstylist, and I'll put my 2 cents in!!
I do not think a wax build-up will cause your hair to break off. Pantene does have wax in it. When you first use it, it coats the hair with a little bit of wax, and actually makes it feel soft. After several uses, it will build up in your hair, making it feel limp and coated (like wax-build-up....)I don't think this damages your hair, just makes it somewhat unmanageable, and interferes with color services. In order to remove the build-up, you need a clarifying shampoo. Here is where the problem is. These clarifying shampoos can be very harsh. If you overuse them, they can really dry out your hair, and strip the color as well. I think thats where the damage occurs. Its probably best to use a clarifying shampoo or treatment once or twice, right before your next color service,if you color your hair. (Or once every 4 to 6 weeks). Alot of shampoos have wax in them. Some are better than others. They don't necessarily have to be salon products. It is important if you color your hair to use a shampoo that is made for color treated hair. If buying out of a salon, its probably best to stick with a brand that is known for working with color.(Ex:L'Oreal, Garnier, etc)
Hope this helps!!!
I do not think a wax build-up will cause your hair to break off. Pantene does have wax in it. When you first use it, it coats the hair with a little bit of wax, and actually makes it feel soft. After several uses, it will build up in your hair, making it feel limp and coated (like wax-build-up....)I don't think this damages your hair, just makes it somewhat unmanageable, and interferes with color services. In order to remove the build-up, you need a clarifying shampoo. Here is where the problem is. These clarifying shampoos can be very harsh. If you overuse them, they can really dry out your hair, and strip the color as well. I think thats where the damage occurs. Its probably best to use a clarifying shampoo or treatment once or twice, right before your next color service,if you color your hair. (Or once every 4 to 6 weeks). Alot of shampoos have wax in them. Some are better than others. They don't necessarily have to be salon products. It is important if you color your hair to use a shampoo that is made for color treated hair. If buying out of a salon, its probably best to stick with a brand that is known for working with color.(Ex:L'Oreal, Garnier, etc)Hope this helps!!!
hiitdogs
Cathlete
Haven't heard about the wax in pantene, but it makes sense now. When I went on a vacation last year, I forgot my shampoo and used the Pantene sample at the hotel room.
I have very fine hair and when I used Pantene, I just looked like someone put grease on my hair, horrible, even my DH commented on it.
Never had this with any other shampoo, I use Bumble & Bumble.
Carola
I have very fine hair and when I used Pantene, I just looked like someone put grease on my hair, horrible, even my DH commented on it.
Never had this with any other shampoo, I use Bumble & Bumble.
Carola
I really have never noticed my hair breaking a lot. The thing I've noticed the most is that my color doesn't take like it used to. I have been so frustrated with it and just figured they changed something in the color I use, but now it sounds like it's more likely the shampoo and conditioner I've been using. I bought a clarifying shampoo which I will use a few times before I color next time. I'm really hoping this will make a big difference in the way my color looks. I used to absolutely love the color, but lately it's been a very dull version of what it used to look like. Thanks for all the responses. I appreciate the input.
hiitdogs
Cathlete
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>That being said.... Carola--what do you think of the Bumble &
>Bumble? I have not tried their products yet.
I LOVE it, the only stuff that works for my hair. I do think it's a bit pricey and it's hard to find. I think they only sell through selected hair salons, I get it through my hair stylist. But it's well worth it!
Carola
>That being said.... Carola--what do you think of the Bumble &
>Bumble? I have not tried their products yet.
I LOVE it, the only stuff that works for my hair. I do think it's a bit pricey and it's hard to find. I think they only sell through selected hair salons, I get it through my hair stylist. But it's well worth it!
Carola
pebblesus
Cathlete
Unfortunatly, many hairstylists ARE taught to push professional products without really knowing how to formally discourage drug-store products, if it can be scientifically be done
The main difference in drug store and salon haircare is this: drug stores put their millions into advertising (think Christy Brinkly, Naomi Campell, Vouge Magazine and VH1), and salons put their millions into research (think of how many times you've seen an ad for Redken durring a Wheel of Fortune commercial), and then they rely on the salon professional to to the advertising.
Plain and simple. They do put some better ingredients in their products, thats why their spossed to be more concentrated and so you need to use less and they last longer. I have found many profesisonal products that I do not care for. Like medicine thats spossed to treat things from sleep disorders to depression, they all tell you that "they're not for everybody, consult your doctor". Sometimes it's just a trial and error for which products you prefer to use. Does it mess with haircoloring? Sure, to some extent. I tell people that if they find a drug store color they really like, then go ahead and use it if they don't want to come in and have it done, but dont do it if you like to change your color all the time as I would never recommend that someone use it OVER a salon color, just if they always plan to do it themselves. There is a BIG difference in salon and drug store color.
But back to the haircare, use what you like and what works for you.
HOWEVER, if you DO choose to go for a salon product, really price compare! And do it for real! Ive had many people tell me they'll get their product from the supermarket and it heats me up as the supermarkets in the northeast where I live have the same markup as the salons do! So you're not really always saving any money, and you have the ability to get help from your stylist and usually a guarentee that you're buying FRESH products and can often return them if they do not work for you...
Most stylists dont make hundread of thousands of dollars a year like everyone thinks they do and many salons make half their profit off retail which keeps them in business (and it isnt always much), so if you have a salon you really like then give them loyalty and do not purchase professional products from high end big business chains like Wal*Fart. Buy drug store brands from drug stores and professional brands from salons. Not to sound like im pushing this too far, but unless you're saving several dollars per salon brand products, is it really worth giving more of your hard-earned dollars to a big business that doesn't take care of their employees (and ill stop at that before I offend anyone
Also, supermarkets are known for "diversion", I don;t want to sound like one of those pushy hairstylists so ill touch on it only briefly: supermarkets and drug stores that sell salon products are "diverting" the product = selling it illegally. Warehouses have been shut down where they traffic these products. In instances they have been found to be old, outdated, comtaminated with more bacteria than normal due to aftermarket tampering, and in rarer cases, counterfit (sp?).
Afterall, they have to get these products without manufacturers knowing, so its a drueling process.
OK, now Ive vented. I try not to be a pushy hairstylist, but I believe in loyalty. If someone chooses to buy supermarket haircare, I dont diss them for it. But if they want salon products I educate them on what they get in a slaon products from a Walgreens, and then I ask them to compare the price and determine if their really saving any money from it.
oh, besides... did I mention that Pantene (P&G) testes on animales?
The main difference in drug store and salon haircare is this: drug stores put their millions into advertising (think Christy Brinkly, Naomi Campell, Vouge Magazine and VH1), and salons put their millions into research (think of how many times you've seen an ad for Redken durring a Wheel of Fortune commercial), and then they rely on the salon professional to to the advertising.
Plain and simple. They do put some better ingredients in their products, thats why their spossed to be more concentrated and so you need to use less and they last longer. I have found many profesisonal products that I do not care for. Like medicine thats spossed to treat things from sleep disorders to depression, they all tell you that "they're not for everybody, consult your doctor". Sometimes it's just a trial and error for which products you prefer to use. Does it mess with haircoloring? Sure, to some extent. I tell people that if they find a drug store color they really like, then go ahead and use it if they don't want to come in and have it done, but dont do it if you like to change your color all the time as I would never recommend that someone use it OVER a salon color, just if they always plan to do it themselves. There is a BIG difference in salon and drug store color.
But back to the haircare, use what you like and what works for you.
HOWEVER, if you DO choose to go for a salon product, really price compare! And do it for real! Ive had many people tell me they'll get their product from the supermarket and it heats me up as the supermarkets in the northeast where I live have the same markup as the salons do! So you're not really always saving any money, and you have the ability to get help from your stylist and usually a guarentee that you're buying FRESH products and can often return them if they do not work for you...
Most stylists dont make hundread of thousands of dollars a year like everyone thinks they do and many salons make half their profit off retail which keeps them in business (and it isnt always much), so if you have a salon you really like then give them loyalty and do not purchase professional products from high end big business chains like Wal*Fart. Buy drug store brands from drug stores and professional brands from salons. Not to sound like im pushing this too far, but unless you're saving several dollars per salon brand products, is it really worth giving more of your hard-earned dollars to a big business that doesn't take care of their employees (and ill stop at that before I offend anyone
Also, supermarkets are known for "diversion", I don;t want to sound like one of those pushy hairstylists so ill touch on it only briefly: supermarkets and drug stores that sell salon products are "diverting" the product = selling it illegally. Warehouses have been shut down where they traffic these products. In instances they have been found to be old, outdated, comtaminated with more bacteria than normal due to aftermarket tampering, and in rarer cases, counterfit (sp?).
Afterall, they have to get these products without manufacturers knowing, so its a drueling process.
OK, now Ive vented. I try not to be a pushy hairstylist, but I believe in loyalty. If someone chooses to buy supermarket haircare, I dont diss them for it. But if they want salon products I educate them on what they get in a slaon products from a Walgreens, and then I ask them to compare the price and determine if their really saving any money from it.
oh, besides... did I mention that Pantene (P&G) testes on animales?
dlandkk808
Cathlete
I also use B & B, but only the conditioner because for some reason the shampoo makes my scalp itch, but the deep conditioner (yellow label one) is awesome. They smell nice also, but like Carola said, pricey and the only place I know that sells it is my hairdresser's.
Lisa
Lisa
punka274
Cathlete
I agree Candi,I've been using Tresseme(sp)for years now(atleast5)and love the stuff! My DH loves the way it smells,I love the way it makes my hair shine and feel soft! Plus,it comes in these huge bottles that last forever! I also use the shine spray and love it!I use the hot oil treaments cause i fried my hair last yearx( using a flat iron and it helps with frizzy ends(Wow what a diffrence in one week!). I just can't say enough about the stuff!
I had no idea Pantene tested on animals. Another reason I'll stop using it. I have been using the Aveda detoxifying shampoo and their damage control conditioner after I clarify and I love both products. I have noticed a huge difference in the way my hair styles. I have one of those cool stylers that will either straighten or curl your hair and when I've tried to curl my hair in the past the curls have been kind of limp and they don't stay long. I curled my hair over the weekend and it looked great and the curls stayed until I washed it again. I'm really anxious to color my hair after a couple weeks of clarifying. I know that people try to push their products, but I tend to trust this person for two reasons. She's a close friend of my sister-in-laws and I don't think she'd steer her wrong and when I went in to purchase some items and I asked what she recommended she said she likes a product that the salon she works for doesn't even sell. I had to go elsewhere to buy it. I felt like she was recommending something that was good but not unreasonably expensive. The real difference is in the way my hair has been styling and I hope to see a huge difference when I color as well.
Beavs
Cathlete
I recommend checking out "Personal Care for People Who Care" which is published by the National Anti-Vivisection Society. They were sending out free copies to libraries so your local library may have a copy on hand. They tell you which companies test, which do not, and which can't be specifically confirmed.
step_a_holic
Cathlete
I have used Pantene for years as well and my hairdresser has never said anything to me about wax! She knows that is what I use too.
I would think a clarifying shampoo would do the trick. I've never heard of anyone having to have wax buildup stripped from their hair. Not that it doesn't happen, I just find it odd.
Melissa
I would think a clarifying shampoo would do the trick. I've never heard of anyone having to have wax buildup stripped from their hair. Not that it doesn't happen, I just find it odd.
Melissa
goldenpath
Cathlete
I have used Pantene for years. I have long curly/wavy hair down to my lower back. I do not have any breakage or build up. I have tried many other shampoos and find that Pantene works best for me.