Has anyone tried this type of eating? I've been a frequent visitor of www.marksdailyapple.com Basically the diet consists of proteins, healthy fats, veggies and fruits. No starches (bread, rice, corn, potatoes) or processed sugars. No dairy either. I'm very interested in this right now. I'm noticing a strong relationship with how i feel and my diet. Not that my diet is bad but i'm noticing that anytime i eat a starch i feel exhausted. I'm always exhausted and i'm always hungry even though i'm eating enough cals. I'm going to start this way of eating tomorrow. I want to feel good and energized. I think i may be carb sensitive. I have NEVER tried even eating low carb so this will be an experiment. I'm a huge fan of veggies, meats, and fruit so i don't think that this will be difficult but i know i'm going to go through a withdrawal period. So i just wanted to know if any of you have any experience with this.
paleo diet
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kathryn
Cathlete
As a vegan, it's not a diet I agree with overall, BUT I do agree that grains and starches and processed sugars are best very limited or avoided altogether.
I think grains in particular do more harm than good to the human body, and any diet can be improved by reducing comsumption of them (exceptions are those 'grains' that are actually seeds and not grains, sometimes refered to as 'pseudo-grains": buckwheat, quinoa, amaranth).
The most common grains (like wheat) are the worst, because they've been hybridized so much, increasing their sugar/carbohydrate content, and consumed so frequently and in such a quantity that it would be easy to develop a sensitivity to them.
I think grains in particular do more harm than good to the human body, and any diet can be improved by reducing comsumption of them (exceptions are those 'grains' that are actually seeds and not grains, sometimes refered to as 'pseudo-grains": buckwheat, quinoa, amaranth).
The most common grains (like wheat) are the worst, because they've been hybridized so much, increasing their sugar/carbohydrate content, and consumed so frequently and in such a quantity that it would be easy to develop a sensitivity to them.
morningstar
Cathlete
I can't even imagine wanting or trying to live without bread.
i understand this but the thing is i'm actually feeling sick after eating bread. i think i have a gluten intolerance or something.
I am gluten and dairy intolerant. Couldn't believe the difference when I gave up grains, no more brain fog, sore muscles or digestion problems. I have followed a type of paleo diet for over 10 years and feel great, no more skin problems either. My husband follows more of a vegetarian style diet and feels great. If he ate the way I ate, he would have nasty health issues.
My husband and I had physicals for insurance this summer, we were both rated high on the health scale (excellent blood tests) even though we eat entirely different diets.
My husband and I had physicals for insurance this summer, we were both rated high on the health scale (excellent blood tests) even though we eat entirely different diets.
RapidBreath
Cathlete
Ideas: 1. Don't just go too high on the protein, understand that the way this works is to eat a higher fat diet (I tried the high protein and got a kidney infection, ouchie!)
2. A lot of people are not ready to go cold turkey. I suggest getting the sugary foods out first and then slowly cutting back on the carbs that are healthy (fruit/whole grains if you can tolerate them.)
Good luck!
2. A lot of people are not ready to go cold turkey. I suggest getting the sugary foods out first and then slowly cutting back on the carbs that are healthy (fruit/whole grains if you can tolerate them.)
Good luck!
RapidBreath
Cathlete
Mstar, just stretch your imagination a little bit, stretch stretch stretch there are lots of us who are gluten intolerant, including myself. Its an adjustment but after awhile its just second nature like you walking for 2 hours everyday to get to and from work.
kariev - Here are some other resources on Paleo, they also link to a ton of Paleo resources:
Robb Wolf's blog - http://robbwolf.com/
Urban Gets Diesel (Melissa Urban) - http://www.urbangetsdiesel.com/
and the Whole30 (also M. Urban) - http://whole9life.com/category/whole-30/
Fitness Spotlight (my eating more closely matches this) - http://www.fitnessspotlight.com/2009/06/19/paleoprimal-eating-plan-improves-health/
There are different interpretations of this eating plan. I think one of the keys is to eliminate items that illicit a bad response for your body (maybe starches in your case). Not everyone is the same.
My diet has morphed, more or less, into mostly Paleo + raw dairy. When I do eat wheat, it's usually sprouted or in the form of beer. Getting off the sugar and refined carbs is the biggie for me in feeling good. The holiday sugar fest I've been on for the past week has definitely proven that.
Also, Plaeo is NOT...NOT a low fat plan. So don't try to make it one, seriously, fat is your friend.
Good luck.
Robb Wolf's blog - http://robbwolf.com/
Urban Gets Diesel (Melissa Urban) - http://www.urbangetsdiesel.com/
and the Whole30 (also M. Urban) - http://whole9life.com/category/whole-30/
Fitness Spotlight (my eating more closely matches this) - http://www.fitnessspotlight.com/2009/06/19/paleoprimal-eating-plan-improves-health/
There are different interpretations of this eating plan. I think one of the keys is to eliminate items that illicit a bad response for your body (maybe starches in your case). Not everyone is the same.
My diet has morphed, more or less, into mostly Paleo + raw dairy. When I do eat wheat, it's usually sprouted or in the form of beer.
Getting off the sugar and refined carbs is the biggie for me in feeling good. The holiday sugar fest I've been on for the past week has definitely proven that. Also, Plaeo is NOT...NOT a low fat plan. So don't try to make it one, seriously, fat is your friend.
Good luck.
carres1973
Cathlete
This is so very timely. I am moving towards a gluten free diet for the new year. I have noticed when I eat processed carbs/sugar, I am EXHAUSTED! The toughest piece will be breakfast, I think. My step-daughter has had good results both with feeling tired and digestion since she went gluten (and dairy) free.
Does anyone know if those who eat a gluten free diet can eat oatmeal? I am finding conflicting information online.
Carrie
Does anyone know if those who eat a gluten free diet can eat oatmeal? I am finding conflicting information online.
Carrie
Beavs
Cathlete
I like this diet. I've been getting in touch with my Ted Nugent side and hunting down wild boar in a loin cloth (while yelling at the top of my lungs WANGO TANGOOOOO!). Of course if you are going to go true paleo you will cut out all bread (the new evil), television (today's mind rot) and of course.........toilet paper. Have fun dragging your knuckles on the ground and grunting. j/k
j/k
kathryn
Cathlete
Oats themselves don't contain gluten, but they are often processed in factories that process gluten grains, so there may be cross contamination. You can find oats guaranteed to be processed in an entirely gluten-free facility.
Mos Nef
Active Member
On Fitness magazine had a feature about this style of eating as one of their cover articles in the Fall. The basic idea (according to their research) is that you eat the foods that humans evolved to be able to eat as they existed in nature thousands of years ago. Since most grains, beans, sugars and other foods weren't available to humans as digestible foods until around 10,000 years ago after we'd developed technologies to harvest and process them, the paleolithic style restricts one to foods that our ancestors were eating, long before the advent of things like wheat flour.
Animal protein sources in the paleo style of eating are confined to animals who also eat the way nature intended-- in other words, grain-fed beef is out, but grass-fed is okay. If the animals are eating against the way nature intended, and then we eat the animals, then the whole point of eating paleo is kind of out the window. The original paleolithic way is implicitly raw-- including meat, more than likely. However, obviously for us today, for safety (and palatability), cooking your meat is the way to go.
Paleo eating includes:
-grass-fed beef, organic poultry, wild fish, venison/buffalo/elk, naturally-raised organic pork
-vegetables
-tubers (sweet potatoes, yams, potatoes, etc.)
-fruits/berries
-nuts/seeds (minus sweet coatings)
-organic free-range eggs
Avoid:
-beans/legumes
-soy (all forms)
-whey
-all dairy
-all grains (cereals, bread, rice, corn, oats, etc.)
-all processed "health foods" (protein bars, rice cakes, etc.)
-all juices
-all refined, pressed oils
That's the gist of it as I understand it, in a nutshell. If you wanted to read the article I read, it was in the Sep/Oct '09 issue of On Fitness, which you might be able to find at a library or order on back issue. Hope that helps some.
Animal protein sources in the paleo style of eating are confined to animals who also eat the way nature intended-- in other words, grain-fed beef is out, but grass-fed is okay. If the animals are eating against the way nature intended, and then we eat the animals, then the whole point of eating paleo is kind of out the window. The original paleolithic way is implicitly raw-- including meat, more than likely. However, obviously for us today, for safety (and palatability), cooking your meat is the way to go.
Paleo eating includes:
-grass-fed beef, organic poultry, wild fish, venison/buffalo/elk, naturally-raised organic pork
-vegetables
-tubers (sweet potatoes, yams, potatoes, etc.)
-fruits/berries
-nuts/seeds (minus sweet coatings)
-organic free-range eggs
Avoid:
-beans/legumes
-soy (all forms)
-whey
-all dairy
-all grains (cereals, bread, rice, corn, oats, etc.)
-all processed "health foods" (protein bars, rice cakes, etc.)
-all juices
-all refined, pressed oils
That's the gist of it as I understand it, in a nutshell. If you wanted to read the article I read, it was in the Sep/Oct '09 issue of On Fitness, which you might be able to find at a library or order on back issue. Hope that helps some.
plarsen
Cathlete
There is also an article in the new Muscle and Fitness Hers this month. Their information comes from Mark Sisson, whom I follow.
The only thing I don't agree with is the venison/deer meat. The deer I see are constantly eating in corn fields (South Dakota), so I would hesitate to eat them. Can't stand the taste anyway.
The only thing I don't agree with is the venison/deer meat. The deer I see are constantly eating in corn fields (South Dakota), so I would hesitate to eat them. Can't stand the taste anyway.
I wouldn't discount venison based on this. The fact is, even though you see them eating corn, the whitetail diet is WAAAAY more varied than just that. They're finding food in lots of other places.