My son the liar!!

pjlippert

Cathlete
Argh!! My DS (seven years old) has been on a lying spree lately! It's driving me crazy!!!I know it's something that all kids go through but is there anyway I can curb this sooner??

So far, I've tried explaining to him that it will be worse for him if/when I find out the truth. In fact, I'm not even sure what kind of consequences to enforce. I've also used the God card saying how it makes God very sad, etc..

Help!!

thanks!
Pam
 
Pam, Hang in there. My oldest pulled that around his age & made it thru just fine! Stick to your guns & you'll both come out ahead!
 
Pam, . . hugs to you. I'll tell you what has worked for me. I tell them I'll find out. Eventually I'll find out and when I do they won't be happy.
When I do find out I make them 100% accountable. If they lie about a friend I make them write an apology note and go to that friend and say sorry. If they lie about doing the right thing I take a toy that they really like and take it away and I really mean take it away, . .I'll often donate it to the Salvation Army. Tell them that they've lost the privilage. You really have to follow through with punishment or they won't care and they'll keep doing it. Even when it is a small little itty bitty lie I hold them 100% accountable. It may seem hash but it has worked for me.
 
I don't have kids, but I know my parents did what Janie suggested, and boy did it work!! The thought of getting something taken away that we were fond of (my parents would even keep me home from dance class as punishment!), was a huge deterrent. It may seem harsh but looking back it was really effective!
 
Interesting article on Medmagic.net (http://medicmagic.net/children-who-often-lies-will-later-be-successful.html):


Parents may worry if their children starts to be dishonest or often lying. But recent studies have found the earlier a child starts lying, he would more likely be successful in the future.

Researchers have found that the ability of children to lie when they are two years old marks the rapid growing of the brain, and means that it is more likely to have a successful life in the future.

Researchers found that lying is more plausible. The sooner the child begins to lie to the faster brain develop intelligence in the years later and thinking skills would be better.

This also means that the child has developed the ‘executive function’, like the ability to create a lie to maintain confidence in the back of his mind.

“Parents do not need to worry if their children tell a lie,” said Dr. Kang Lee, director of the Institute of Child Study in Toronto University, who conducted the study, as reported by the Telegraph.

According to Dr Lee, almost all children lie. Children who have better cognitive development will lie better, because the child is able to cover his tracks.

Lying involves several processes of the brain, such as integrating data sources and manipulate information to his advantage.

This is related to the development of brain regions that allows ‘executive function’ and the use of higher-order thinking and reasoning.

In his research, Dr. Lee studied 1200 children aged 2-16 years.

The majority of children are lying, but children with better cognitive ability will become a better liar, too.

Percentage of lying in children is:

1. At the age of 2 years, 20 percent of children are going to lie.
2. Percentage will increase to 50 percent in children aged 3 years
3. Almost 90 per cent at the age of four years.
4. The most clever age is 12 years, for which nearly every child are lying.
5. Propensity to lie will decrease to 70 percent at 16-year-old child.

Approaching maturity, adolescents or young adults will learn to use a ‘white lie’ that is not dangerous, to avoid hurting the feelings of others.

Researchers say there is no relationship between the lies done in childhood with a tendency for people to cheat in exams or being a fraud in the future.

“Parents who found her son lying, should not be treating their children badly, but should serve as the ‘moment of educating’”, said Dr Lee.

Dr Lee said, parents should not spank or yell their kids, but must tell them gently and patiently about the importance of honesty and how lying is a negative behavior.

At the age of 8 years, opportunities for children to lie would be getting smaller and infrequent.
 
The best one I ever heard was Bill Cosby dealing with one of his kids who kept lying and standard punishments weren't working. He took the kid out behind the shed and gave him a spanking (not a beating, and he generally didn't spank his kids, so it was a particularly memorable experience for the kid). The kid, of course, cried. Then Bill stopped and explained to his son why he received a spanking and asked him if he understood. The kid said yes. Bill said, okay, we're done here, I'm not going to hit you again, you can go back in the house. As the kid turned to walk away, Bill reached out and gave him another good swat on the bum. The kid of course, was shocked and startled and turned around and looked at his father and said, "you said you weren't going to hit me again!" Bill looked him in the eye and said...."I lied." The lying stopped right then and there. Brilliant!!!
 
Hi Morningstar!

Thank you for the interesting reply. It's funny, now that I think about it, I've heard something similar to that effect!! :rolleyes:

Based on that article, you are talking to the mother of a future President of the United States!! :p:eek::rolleyes: He is a leader for sure!

NY25- that Bill Cosby thing was quite funny! I may just try lying myself!! :p:eek::cool:

Thanks again, gals!

Oh, and yes, I did take away a VERY important privelage (at least in his mind). I'm hoping that will help him get a grip on the lying and more importantly, the backtalking!!

Pam
aka- a Future World Leaders Mom!! :D
 
My son (8) did this too. I just told him that I knew him better than anyone in the entire world and I knew when he wasn't telling me the truth. And if he lies often enough, no one will believe him. (Like the little boy who cried wolf... a great story reference.) And no one likes a liar because you can't trust a liar and nothing is more important in relationships than trust.... The thought of him losing friends or damaging relationships because of this really made him think twice about it. I think that they just discover at a certain age what lying is and they try to do it more to trick people than to actually deceive. Hang in there!! This too shall pass. :)
 
Interesting article on Medmagic.net (http://medicmagic.net/children-who-often-lies-will-later-be-successful.html):
Parents may worry if their children starts to be dishonest or often lying. But recent studies have found the earlier a child starts lying, he would more likely be successful in the future.

An interesting article. Wow, it sure is sad that how well a child lies indicates how smart they are. The scientists make it sound as if parents shouldn't worry, but when does ethics come into play?? :confused:
 
Little kids don't have ethics or morals naturally. That's something that's taught over time (or not!) That's what parents are for! We are all born liars and opportunists, with some being better at it than others. We are just socialized over time that lying is wrong, even though all of us do it almost every day. We don't necessarily lie to everyone, but all of us lie to someone- our bosses, maybe, or our kids (every time we give the impression we know what it's all about), or our parents, or the cops when pulled over, or to our friends when they ask what we really think about their boyfriend. Little white lies are still lies, but how long would society last without any lies? We "massage" the truth without even thinking about it. Spin is an art form.

Telling the truth - the whole truth - to someone is the mark of how much you care about them. It is also really really scary and really hard, because the consequences can be so devastating.
 
Hmm... I have to disagree that everyone is born opportunists and liars. I think children are born honest and pure and it is the world that teaches them to be otherwise. (Parents included, sadly.) Have you seen the movie The Invention of Lying (I think that was the title.) Though I didn't like the movie, it really showed what the world truly would be like without those little white lies.
 

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