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deanie

Cathlete
Good Afternoon

Its been an exciting day for me today! I bought a 35# kb at Dick's this morning and I just bought a 30# kb from Amazon.com!! I also bought a jump rope at target today.

In the meantime, I have not worked out this weekend at all!!!:eek::eek: no reason really, just life stuff getting in the way. I wanted to workout this morning, but we lost power for 3 hours and that pushed everything I wanted to do back. I am still a little sore from Providence, but not enough to make me not run on the treadmill.

I hope they put Fire power on sale at AOS soon!!

Gin~ How is your weekend going? Is today a rest day? and I am glad to hear you are feeling better:)

Marcy~ Did you read what Cathe wrote about plyo legs? I was right about it being an alternative to meso 3 strength training.

I saw the clip for the plyo legs and that helped me feel good about my decision to cancel STS. A lot of the moves I already have on plyo from P90X and other wise I just wasn't thrilled. What did you gals think?

I hope you are having a nice weekend!
 
Monday

Good Morning

Today was PUB no abs and I tacked on the first 4 min of the 12 min. complex with my 20# kb. My arms were too fried to continue with the complex and I was okay with the 4 min I did. I upped my weights for PUB for back and tri. I just can't seem to up my weight for biceps and I always struggle knocking out the 6 hammer curls and 6 reg. curls at 20#. I'm wondering if I can do that complex as a cardio workout tomorrow?????

I hope you gals had a nice weekend!

Off to check the AOS sale for today!

Later Gators!

 
Good Afternoon!

I did my own KB/interval workout which included the Sarah Lurie tutorial:

HSTA warmup
2 3/4 chinups
10 split jumps
4 Turkish Get-Ups on each side
30 power scissors
25 2-arm swings
30 seconds turning squats
15 1-arm swings each side
20 Alternating Swings
Rest
25 Alternating Swings
10 Cleans right and left side
Rest
5 Cleans each side
10 plyo jacks
16 plie jacks
10 front squats
Rest
10 front squats
10 slasher to halo
30 second plank
16 hip dips in plank

I concluded with the standing stretch from Tamilee's Total Stretch (great stretch tape! 10 mins. stretches of either standing, seated (using chair) or floor and a 30 mins. flexibility stretch.)

Deanie - PUB biceps is killer! I think 20# is great. Some exercises take longer to go up in weight than others. You'll get there!

I'm sure you know this already but just wanted to make sure - Firepower has lots of exercises that use two kbs. It's supposed to be in the middle between Providence and Newport in terms of toughness. I'd probably get it for future workouts but it might be awhile before I get 2 kbs of the same weight.

The 12-min. complex workout is very much upper body. You might want to rest tomorrow and do it Wednesday. Just a thought.

Gin - Breathing was better today. Thanks for asking. Congrats on doing your 6-mile run:D How's your hamstring today? Did you try your KB yet? What'd you do today?

Have a great day!

Marcy
 
Good Morning!

Quick post (what a surprise, right?) to say hi and sorry I have been MIA. Sunday was SJP and DH's family in from out of town. Yesterday was too cold for my friends to run (wind chill in the 20's) so I did 4ds BC and today was ME. I have also been doing a lot of stretching.
The temp here on Sunday went from a beautiful 75 to a low 29. That's Texas weather for you. Today the wind chill is in the teens.

Have a great day girls!
 
Good Afternoon Ladies!

I finally did the full practice of Power Yoga for Happiness 2. This one was definitely leg intensive. My legs and glutes are still sore. Only two arm balances -- crane and side crane - crane I held the whole time and side crane I held for a few seconds on the right side. The shoulder stand was short. Even though there were very little arm balances or inversions, this was a challenging practice. He did a vinyasa with chair salutations that was intense. Ab work was short but good and challenging. I was sweating buckets!

Deanie - Did you receive confirmation that they cancelled your STS preorder? How long did it take? I am ordering Firepower and I saw that you are too. I got Providence last night! I will be doing it tomorrow. I hope I won't be too sore!

Did you do the KB complex for cardio today?

Gin - Sorry it's so cold in TX! It's actually going up to 70 here in GA on Thursday. I'm looking forward to it! How's your back?

Have a great day!

Marcy
 
Good Afternoon

I had to run out the door this morning, do 2 errands before school and have a parent/teacher conference before class, just got home and DS9 has a dr. appt....no time for down time today:eek::eek:

Anyway, this morning I did 20 min on the elliptical, my abs mish mosh and SM#3. I was thinking kb work the whole body and I only want to do them every other day, so I was going to tack on either the 12 min. complex or the 6 min workout at the end of my workout tomorrow. Depending on how much time I have left.

I ordered Firepower this morning!! and put in my zip code wrong!!:eek: So when I called to fix it I asked about Santa Monica and they said it will be on sale later. But while at work, I found out we are getting gift cards as Channukah gifts and I'd rather use that to pay for it!!!

Gin~ glad you are feeling better!

Marcy! can't wait to hear how much you love Providence!!!!;) I am really excited for you! Glad you are ordering fire power too! Even if we don't use it right away, its too good a savings to pass up! I have to check about the sts cancellation email, I think it was within 24 hours.....I'll let you know. I hope your legs and glutes feel better before you start Providence, because you will definitely be sore after!!LOL

Have a good one!
 
Marcy~ they sent me an email confirmation the same day, about 3 hours after I sent them the email saying I wanted to cancel.

Also, AOS is having a 2nd sale today....20% kb. the preform better kb are supposed to be amazingly good. just fyi.....
 
Wednesday

Good Morning

Today was PLB and I tacked on the 6 min. workout with my 25# kb. I used the same weights as last time for PLB.

I ordered Santa Monica today....I wasn't going to, I was going to wait for my visa gift card, but they were offering a free ropes gone wild, and I didn't want to miss out on anything;) I wish I didn't already have the 35#kb, or I would have ordered the preform better at 20% off. A really good price!! My brother bought his first kb from them yesterday.

6 min kb workout:
20 seconds work/ 10 seconds rest
swing right
swing left
high pull right
high pull left
snatch right
snatch left
repeat

This workout got my heart rate up better than the 20 min on the elliptical yesterday.:eek: (and it was not an easy program on the elliptical I did either)

Gin~ I absolutely love CTX!! the upper body only workout is amazing!!!! I can rave about the cardio too...very intense and 30 min. and leaner legs speaks for itself. I think the cardio in CTX is more intense than the cardio in 4DS and very effective!! What did you do today for your workout?

Marcy~ I can't wait to hear your review of Providence!! I hope you enjoy it! check your spam for the sts cancellation email. For some reason, everyonce in a while my regular mail goes there:confused: (see above info about my sts cancellation)

Have a wonderful day gals!!!
 
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Good Afternoon!

I did Providence this morning and all I can say is WOW!! Loved it! It was challenging but doable (except for the snatch at the end on which I had a pretty pitiful performance (see below). My left side is definitely stronger than my right side. 20# seemed pretty good for this workout although I could see myself needing a 25# soon.

Swings - Got through full round although definitely was exhausted at the end. Forget the 100 swing challenge - I think I did enough here!

Cleans - Got through the round but took an extra break after the first set. I didn't realize the 2nd set was going to be much shorter.

1 arm chest press - got through full round.
Squats and sumo deadlift - got through full round.
1 legged deadlift - did pretty well on these - I have pretty good balance.
Windmill and Overhead Squat - rested between sets

Clean & Press - toughest exercise for me. By the time it was over, I was only doing cleans, no presses. I think after about the 4 or 3 on each side, I lost it. Here is where I really noticed the strength difference between right and left.

Flip Hi Pull Into Squat - only did about 30-45 seconds of this. Looks easy but I got winded real quick.

Tactical Lunges - Boy were these fast! Again, only got through 30-45 secs.

Triple Crush - liked this exercise. got through whole round.

Figure 8 hold and slingshot - liked this one but went a little fast for me and my coordination got a little off at times.

Seated Press in Split - Really tough for me. Didn't finish.

1 arm rows - got through full round. Probably could go up to 25# on this one soon. First set was no problem. Second set really started to tire quickly.

Ab work - Great! My whole midsection is sore! The Sicilian Crushers were the toughest for me. As I said, in P90X I only used 8# for the Mason (Russian) Twists. Here I used the 20# kb and it really made a difference. I was able to do them with my heels off the floor:)

Snatch - Pitiful! I was only able to do 2 on the left side and 1 1/2 on the right side. I guess I was just too tired from the workout.

I thought this was a good first KB workout and it definitely will leave me challenged for awhile. I really liked Anthony. Reminded me a little of P90X. I like the counter on the side. I only wish there was a stretch at the end because I really feel like I need a good stretch after doing a KB workout. I guess it's a good think I'm doing yoga tomorrow.

I didn't have time for intervals today. Might do BC cardio only tomorrow before yoga. Hopefully, once I get used to the DVD and am able to not take as many rests, I'll be able to fit in interval work so I might have to change things up and do it before my yoga for now.

Deanie - I also ordered Firepower yesterday. I was thinking about ordering Santa Monica but am thinking twice after reading this thread:

http://forum.videofitness.com/showthread.php?t=126456

I got an e-mail that SNM was in the process of cancelling my order and I should have a credit within 2-3 weeks.

Gin - So are you getting CTX? I would still like to get it as well but it's not at the top of my list right now.

Have a great day!

Marcy
 
Hi again

Marcy~ I already ordered Santa Monica. I wish I had seen the thread first, but I am going to try it and see what happens. Worse comes to worst, I'll just return it.:( I'm glad you love Providence too! I am looking forward to doing it on Friday!


Gin~ Miss you chicka!
 
I went to the AOS forum and asked about the best way to use the AOS dvds/kettlebells. These are the replies I got:

first reply:

I do Cathe's Core Max every day.
Then I tend to rotate:
Day 1. Heavy Kettlebells and Sandbags
Day 2. Firepower or Newport DVD's
Day 3. Ropes, Rings, Sledgehammer, Macebell and 3-4 miles running
Day 4. Repeat the cycle or pick something else
I find that mixing heavy days with stamina days helps balance out my training and it keeps it fresh.

The second reply:
You could do something like this:
Monday: Providence
Tues & Thurs: Newport
Weds: Firepower
Friday: Santa Monica
Sat & sunday off or something else

Or you could rotate them every week so that it takes a few weeks to get through all of them.
Like this:
week 1 MWF Providence T TH Newport
Week 2 MWF Newport T TH Firepower
Week 3 MWF Santa Monica T TH Newport
Week 4 MWF Newport T TH Providence

Best thing is to experiment. As for strength vs conditioning with all of these workouts you get both. Providence, Firepower and Santa Monica can be done with the heaviest kettlebells, Newport requires lighter ones because it is more focused on speed conditioning. Santa Monica has the option to do interval training with ropes between sets and you can select the rest periods so as to make it harder- 15 sec, 30 sec or 60 sec rests between rounds.
You say you can lift heavy. So what is heavy to you? Kettlebells require more strength for less weight (like Olympic Lifting) because the weights are used ballistically ( swings, snatches, cleans, figure 8 to a hold). Double Front squats with kettlebells are harder that squats with dumbells or behind the neck. It uses more core strength than traditional body building routines. That's why you don't see much "ab work" in kettlebell workouts. If you are swinging a 20 kg bell or snatching 16kg or doing TGU's with 12 or 16 kg you will get plenty of ab work.
Bottom line is you get more bang for your buck with kettlebells than anything else. Which is good if you have a busy life. These workouts will get you in better shape than anything else you have ever done in a shorter period of time. They aren't "easy" workouts but they are fun and you will be pleased with what you can accomplish.
HTH

the third reply:


Kettlebells can be used at the same time for both strength and metabolic conditioning (cardio). Since it a total body strength and conditioning tool you may want to throw out the old upper/ lower body mindset and cardio vs strength training as this is a system that works everything together rather than a bunch of parts ala bodybuilding. You might want to read Anthony's article that talks about the failure of modern training to achieve real conditioning: http://www.artofstrength.com/tabid/349/Default.aspx
You could to set up a plan to do light, medium, and heavy days for overall strength and the other days for speed conditioning. Providence and Firepower can be used for strength training and Newport is much more conditioning oriented since it is faster and you have to use lighter KB for that. Santa Monica is a hybrid that does both. I am not familiar with Empire since I don't have it but I have all the others. I used to do a rotation of these DVD's so that I did each of them once an week. Or you could alternate them from week to week. You can certainly train with kettlebells up to 5 times a week but have to alternate between heavier and lighter days. The thing about these DVD's is that which ever one you decide to do you will be getting "cardio" even though you are emphasising strength.
I used to do workout DVD's like Cathe Friederich's but since I started using kettlebells about a year and half ago, I got rid of all those because frankly the AOS stuff and kettlebells in general are a much harder workout and have given me the best condition of my life in less time that I used to waste with Cathe or the Firm or anything else. I only go to a gym 2 times a week to do heavy deadlifts anymore. You may think you are advanced but when you start doing something like Providence or Firepower with a heavy enough KB( heavy in my book is 16kg and above) you realize the other stuff was just child's play.
Since you have all of them you should experiment with doing each of them once a week until you get a feel for what size bells work best to give you a tough workout. You will need at least one pair of same sized bells for Firepower and maybe more since your upper body may not be as strong as your lower. Same with Providence. So for Firepower a pair of 16kg and 12kg would work. With Providence 20kg to 12kg depending on the set. With Newport an 8kg bell will be fine since it is more speed oriented and the moves are faster. Santa Monica I have only done once and I will have to get a better feel for - it is set up so that you can use dumbells and a barbell for overhead squats. I'm probably going to get an Olympic bar for that.
Right now I am finishing up ETK ROP so after Christmas I will be going back to the DVD rotations with the addition of the Strength in Motion workbook.
So my advice to you is to experiment with alternating the DVD's and have fun. Break out of the old workout mindset and don't be afraid to try different combinations.
HTH


I personally found this info VERY informative, I hope you do also!

I am thinking of trying something along the lines of the second reply in January (or maybe next week.....:eek:)
 
Deanie - Thanks for all the info! I don't have time to read it right now but I'll comment later or tomorrow.

In case you don't know the chaptering for Santa Monica, here it is:

"Quick breakdown of the DVD (I'm off to see a movie, but I figure I'll give a quick first impression until someone can really break it down):
It includes an instructional section, which sometimes uses the new products like the bulldog dumbbell.

For the workout itself, you can choose if you want the instruction included, or not (speed rounds), and if you want the ropes in not. Next you choose how long you want your recovery breaks: 60, 30 or 10 sec.

Round 1
Figure 8 to Hold
Ropes
Rest
Round 2
TGU
Ropes (this looks like it is the same as what you did before)
Rest
Round 3
Swings/Squats
Ropes
Rest
Round 4
Chest Presses, Pushups and Squats
Ropes
Rest
Round 5
Squatting Press, (oops, chaptered forward and couldn't go back to see what else was in this round)
Ropes (noticed that the rope section here is different. It may have changed in one of the earlier sets but I missed it)
Rest
Round 6
Press to Windmill, Deadlift to a Row, Flip n' Squat
Ropes (definitely different set)
Rest
Round 7
Press to Get Up, Plank with a hip drop, Alternating Snatches
Ropes
Rest
Round 8
Lunge Cocktails (Did someone say cocktails? Beer me NOW), Squat and Hold Cleans, Open Palm Presses
Ropes (everyone drop your cocktail and run to your ropes!)
Rest

I'm exhausted just watching, but, if you want, at this point you can choose to repeat the whole thing. KILLER looking, esp. with the ropes. The sets are LONG.

On the DVD itself, I'm not crazy about the chaptering. On the computer it is hard to move back and forth (and that's how I play my workout DVDs), but if you're doing the workout, I don't know how much back and forth I'd have to do."

Gin - I miss you too!

Marcy
 
Deanie - FYI - from a VFer who did Santa Monica:

"I did this workout without the ropes this AM.

Quote:
Kat, does whether or not you include the ropes determine the length of the workout? In other words, if someone decided to not include the ropes part, as I would probably do, does it make the workout shorter or does he just do the non-rope work longer? Also, as you're inputting all the info at the beginning, is there an indication of how long the workout will be on the screen based on the chosen options?

Yes, if you use the ropes you are going to get a longer workout. It does not affect the non-rope work length at all. There is also no indication given as to how long the workout is.

I was trying to do the workout with the ropes section in so I could view what the ropes section looked like & then use that as my rest. I did not see what I could really sub for the ropes in the amount of space I have, so I don't think that will ever be an option for me.

My DVD appears to have a glitch, some of the rest of you that have received it may want to check it out & see if you have the same issue. I started off with the ropes section in & FFd through part of it once I saw the moves. Once I got to Round 3, I tried FFing through the ropes & rest & it kept bringing me back to Round 3 and then ended up shutting off my DVD! I had to fiddle with it for about 10 minutes before I finally just let the rest play through on its own & was able to get past the glitch.

Here's what I remember from the workout but I'm not sure how accurate my memory was. Did this this morning & I did not take any notes:

The Figure 8 to hold was 3 minutes.

Turkish Get Ups were for 5 minutes, IIRC.

Swings were right arm 1 minute, left arm 1 minute, alt for 1 minute. Squats were maybe a minute, I don't remember for sure. (this was the round where things went wonky on me too so I may not recall things right from here on but I'll try).

Chest presses were I think 30 seconds pressing both bells at the same time, then 30 seconds with left bell held up & righ pressing, then 30 seconds vice versa (I don't have doubles so just alternated chest presses the whole time). Push ups were on 2 bells, handles parallel to the ground, probably for 30 seconds (I did 240 some odd pushups yesterday so I skipped this part & kept on with chest press). Body Weight Squats for 30 seconds or a minute. I am pretty sure at the end of this you held your squat in the bottom position for 30 seconds.

Squatting Press, I think maybe 30 seconds or a minute each side, this round is foggy in my mind. Sorry! I think there were high pulls after that for maybe 30 seconds each side? I think after that was the plie squat move or regular squat.

Press to windmill was 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 4 Deadlift to row 30 seconds each side, I think. Flip N Squat for a minute maybe.

Press to Get Up, 30 seconds each side? (I kind of slacked off on this one, I was about ready to be done with the workout due to time constraints but kept wanting to see more of what was coming up) Plank with hip drop for maybe 30 seconds to a minute. Alternating snatches for a minute? I skipped this one cause I ended up doing 60 snatches while I was trying to get past round 3.

Lunge Cocktails, 30sec to 1 minute each side. Again, I was gonna be done but the move looked so good that I had to join along. Squat & Hold Cleans (I don't remember these), Open Palm Presses 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 4, and then these squatting down, jumping up deals in sets of 10, 8 & 6 I think.

This workout was harder than Providence, IMO, but easier than Newport. The rounds were much longer than Providence's. I can't even imagine taking only 10 seconds for the rest! Overall, I really like the workout & am looking forward to doing it again without the interruption after Round 3."

Marcy
 
Thursday

Good Morning gals:)

Today I did a kb workout I got from the web or the od forum (can't remember which):confused: I think I am officially making the switch to kettlebells only!:confused::eek: Still working on a "rotation" but the above info is really helpful. So this was todays workout......

Workout
50 Jump Ropes
50 KB swings
50 push ups
40 Jump Ropes
40 KB swings
40 push ups
30 Jump Ropes
30 KB swings
30 push ups
20 Jump Ropes
20 KB swings
20 push ups
10 Jump Ropes
10 KB swings
10 push ups

10 bicep curls w/kb
10 KB cleans (5 each side)
10 KB upright rows (or high pulls)



I used my 20# kb for the workout, since I'm going to try to alternate light and heavy kb days. Providence is up for tomorrow for me.


Gin~ What's on tap for you today? You must be really busy. I hope everything is okay! Are you going to go for CTX? When does your winter break start? Our last day is the 23rd.



Marcy~ Thanks so much for the Santa Monica info. I printed it out. I'm hoping it will work okay in my dvd player:confused: it looks really good! How sore are you today? I was sore (in a good way ;)) for 3 days after the first time I did providence. More power to you, if you can do Providence and then do interval training!!:) I'm not sure tomorrow if I should try the 25# kb or stick with the 20#. I was able to keep up with Anthony and finish and do 1.5 (?) minutes of snatches last week,(though it was challenging) so I am leaning towards using the 25#:confused: I definitely wont be fast forwarding thru the rests with that!:eek:


I got some great replies from the AOS site, but the women/people on this site are more active at responding and using the site. I wonder why. I spent like an hour yesterday watching the min. of strength videos to try to get more info on kettlebells. Very helpful.... Did I mention there is a CrossFit gym/RKC kettlebell gym about 15 min from me? I may try and go over there on Fri. if I get a chance. Or during our Winter Break.


Have a great day!
BBL,
 
forgot to mention....

Todays workout took about 20ish min. and I did the joint mobility as a warmup, so total was 30 some min. Then I did stretch max #3. I also didn't knock out the pushups all at once (though I did do them all on my toes). I would do 25 consecutively, then knock out the rest in groups of 10. I also needed to rest for about 10ish seconds between the swings and the pushups. Doing the jumprope was the easiest part of the whole workout!:eek:

I definately want to do a stretch max segment after the kb workouts!!
 
Good Morning!

Today I did the BC Cardio premix and Janis Saffell's Dynamic Stretch. My breathing was pretty bad this morning so it was a miracle I got through all the cardio. I got through all the drills except I only did 1 set of the mountain climbers and didn't finish the airborne jumps in the speedbag arms/kick drill.

Today was the first time I did Dynamic Stretch. It was really good (about 27 mins.). Saffell has lots of kickboxing tapes (I really like CIA 9907 - Kick It). She used to be a dancer so I guess that's why I click with her. The stretch had a little bit of yoga, pilates and dance stretches.

Deanie - I find I REALLY need to stretch after KB workouts. I'm still sore in my back today and my obliques. My right lat was really sore too. I'm becoming a total KB convert too. I still don't know if I'm 100% sure about my STS cancellation but I think I did the right thing. I also ordered Santa Monica. Your workout this morning sounds really intense. I will copy it for future use. Good for a more cardio KB day. I don't know if I'm ready for Providence again tomorrow. I'll see how I feel. I might do yours instead. I don't have a jump rope but I'll manage without one. At least I won't feel like such a wimp now that I know you took rests between the pushups!:p

It might be a good idea to visit the KB gym. I wish they had one close by me. I've watched some of the vides on AOS and they are very helpful.

Gin - I hope we're not boring you with all our KB talk! What'd do you today? Is your back any better?

Have a great day. Will BBL.

Marcy
 
Deanie - Anthony is having one final sale for any of the 12 days. Can you tell me what exercises are on Empire State? Is it worth it and that much different than the other 4?

Marcy
 
Deanie - I found the breakdown. It sounds great -- bad for my CC but good for me. I've now used up all my savings from STS.

Marcy
 
Marcy~ just got home from work~ I know you will like The Empire State dvd. Fun and challenging. I've only previewed Newport and haven't received my other dvds, but it is different from Providence. It also has another workout with it called manmaker I haven't tried, but looks good. I read/heard somewhere (maybe on the dvd itself) that it is a good bridge dvd to get you from Providence to Newport....It is definately worth it! I used up all my money from my STS refund also. I am sure I made the right decision on canceling sts. I'm glad you ordered Santa Monica too.:)

What do you think? 20 or 25# kb for me tomorrow?
 
Deanie - If you kept up with Anthony and finished it all, I guess it's time to start with 25#. You'll probably need more rests and may not do all reps but I think it's good to challenge yourself.

I think we're going to have enough to keep us busy for awhile. Although I still want to get Lauren Brooks' DVD. I read that Empire State is slightly easier than Lauren's and easier than Santa Monica, although a step harder than KB1 (Providence).

Gin - Where are you??? We miss you!

Marcy
 

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