Just completed a month of GS...

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doing each workout once a week. Wow, lovely results! After lurking about on these forums, I decided to do a month or so of MM or a similar endurance workout. I did MM this morning and I can't believe how much stronger I am!

Now I'm curious...will I lose some of the definition that I've aquired this past month doing endurance-based workouts for a while, or will this continue to develop? I'm not too concerned about this...the strength gains speak for themselves! I'm just wondering...
 
I also got great results from GS but when I did a rotation with Jari Love (Ripped to the Core, Slim & Lean), I lost definition. I am back to heavy lifting. I never seemed to click with endurance workouts. Now I know why. ME is one of my least favorite workouts, along with Power Hour.

Marcy
 
You'll probably get a variety of responses, but I also get better results with heavier lifting. I do like to incorporate endurance type of workouts but I usually add them as "icing on the cake" for example when doing either a split routine working only 2 body parts per day, or a one body part per day rotation, I'll pair up the Chest work from Slow & Heavy and then follow it with the chest work from CTX.
 
O.K...so if I want to keep this yummy definition, should I keep going with the heavy (I've yet to purchase Slow and Heavy...am feeling my credit card warming up..) or is a couple of week break enough to rest up but not negate all the hard work?

Again, the aesthetics are awesome, in addition to the strength! It's been a long time since I've had such a noticable change in my body, and I've been working out fairly hard for fifteen years! So glad I "found" Cathe and all you knowledgeable gals (and guys too!).
 
Hi:

If you like what you are seeing, then I think you should go for S & H. That is a wonderful series for gaining strengths, particularly for the Upper Body.

I usually lift heavy as that I always see better results too. However, just to keep some variety going, I'll switch to a week of endurance based strength training every 4-6 weeks just to keep it fresh and the body guessing. I do like MM alot, that is probably my favorite endurance workout from Cathe.

Take care, Lynn M.
 
Oh you must get S&H!!! It's my all time favorite wt workout!!! I also really love the GSs but man oh man S&H is awesome. I did an endurance (circuits- with her new ones) rotation a couple of months ago and lost no definition. As a matter of fact I liked the results and will periodically do a week or two of that. But I love to lift as heavy as I can so I tend to stay away from circuits most of the time.

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Just as I suspected...looks like I'll be purchasing S&H very soon! Until then, I'll keep enjoying MM and the Circuits! Thanks for all your help...it's been so cool to discover there are other people out there who love working out and acheiving results as much as me!
 
>O.K...so if I want to keep this yummy definition, should I
>keep going with the heavy (I've yet to purchase Slow and
>Heavy...am feeling my credit card warming up..) or is a couple
>of week break enough to rest up but not negate all the hard
>work?

I think a two-week break from heavy lifting isn't going to be enough to negate the progress you've made, and it's always good to mix things up once in a while, but YMMV. Why not start out more conservatively, maybe doing a week of endurance-based lifting before going back to 3 weeks of heavier lifting.
 
That is what I do, Kathryn.

I get great results with Power Hour, Muscle Max, Muscle Endurance, etc.

But I use Maxium Intensity Strength and Pure Strength for heavier lifting.

I agree that a break from heavier lifting will probably make the results better since everyone hits a plateau and needs to change things up (as Cathe says).

I think just using all heavy all the time would finally stop being so effective for definition.

It is all about mixing and matching different workouts to achieve the best results.

I tend to shy away from Kick Box videos, but am now forcing myself to do them because they definitely are worth the results.
 
Trust in the LORD with all your heart.

what is GS? and i am doing the same thing i think, a month of slow & heavy, then ya'll suggest 2 weeks off from it. what do ya'll mean by endurance? is that the traditional weight lifting, rather than the very slow? i'm really new here, so i'm just learning all the lingo and how difficult cathe workouts are.:eek: :)
 
Trust in the LORD with all your heart.

can i ask another question? if any of ya'll have ever done the firm, you are familiar with tall box climb, and leg press on the box. does cathe have any of that in her workouts? and if so , does she use a 14" box?
thanks, cathy
 
Hi. I was a "Firmie" from 1989 until the company changed hands in 1999.

Yes, Cathe includes a 14 inch "Tall Box" (think adjustable version of the firm 14 in box) in many of her leg workouts (i.e., Muscle Endurance, Legs and Glutes, Butts and Guts (as a bonus and in the premixes) Leaner Legs, Pyramid Lower Body & Boot Camp. I don't have the Gym Style Series yet but someone else who reads this will be able to let you know about that. I'd be surprised if it isn't.

Muscle Max has an interesting and effective variation using a green (medium tension) resistance band on the 8 inch step. If you intend to use your firm box, that one would not be do-able for you because your box would most likely tip over. In any event, it wouldn't be safe.

I assume by your questions that you are some what new to Cathe. So let me tell you this, some of Cathe's workouts are like The Firm (vintage Firm not the new stuff) on steriods. Her aerobics and weight work take things to a whole new level. In reference to the leg press on the 14 inch box, you will do more sets of them with Cathe's workouts. The reps are about the same, usually 12 to 16 per leg. Sometimes the moves are faster when the weight is lower (you will see this in Legs and Glutes. She (and most of us who try and match her weight) use a 15# dumbell held by both hands center chest. The movement is quicker than with the Firm workouts using the same weight.

In Pyramid Lower Body (PLB) she uses a barbell starting with set one at around 25# (I can't recall for sure but somewhere around that) and then the next set at 35# and then the next one at 45# and then back down to the 35# and then finally back to 25#. These sets are all done in a row with about 30 seconds of rest in between. So you are doing five sets of presses on each leg with a challenging weight. The pace is about what you would do with The Firm using a 15# dumbell.

I haven't seen anything where she does the "box climb". But trust me, you WILL NOT miss it. You can always add it into your workout to supplement our leg work though. I might do that as well (when my knees allow). Coincidentally, my DVD player broke over the weekend so I couldn't do Cathe's aerobic workouts. I broke out my Firm Tape, Maximum Cardio (it includes the box climb). I hadn't done that one in probably 4 years. It used to be a really tough workout for me. It was very easy yesterday. I got bored with it quickly but kept it up. I found that I really missed doing a Cathe so I dug out her "Legs and Glutes" workout that I taped from FIT TV 4 or 5 years ago. If you get that channel watch the Legs and Glutes workout (part of the cardio blast series) to see the leg presses I mentioned earlier.

There are plenty of ex-Firmies here in the forum. I am sure they can tell you the other workouts that use the tall box for leg presses.

If you do a Cathe Leg Workout, you will be more than satisfied with the workout and the physical results; and your strength and endurance level will go through the roof.

Hope this helps.

Teals
 

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