A while ago I asked about Jari Love and got so many positive resonses that I bought and traded for 4 of them--skipped the original Get Ripped because I had it and traded it. Well I am really happy with the others. I have been doing them for a few weeks just cycling thru all 4. Haven't had DOMS like this for awhile. Have to admit I had to go lighter than I anticipated but I think that will change as I get more accustomed to the higher reps. So a big Thank You! to everyone who replied.