is there some rule about.................

jdoll

Cathlete
how much protein you can ingest at once? i can never get it all in and so i add extra scoops to my shakes. is it ok that i am getting 75g at one time?


jes
 
Is that something that you normally do? If not, your body might not like you taking it all in at once like that. Can't you drink a couple of shakes (35 grams/serving)a few hours apart??
 
If I ingested that much protein at once, my body would retaliate by keeping me in pain and close to my bathroom for a day or so.

:p
 
Hi Jes,

Generally spread out over the day is much better then one large hit of anything. This is because our body kind of has storage boxes, once you fill your storage box for that item (protein), the rest runs over and then gets turned to fat or is just wasted.

There is some stats out there, but they aren't set in stone, in some dietetic text books it says that the normal average person can only absorb 20 mgs of protein at a time. But if you workout regularly you can increase the storage box to hold more. Though as much as your taking I don't think you'll ever be able to absorb that much at one time. Just doesn't seem possible, unless you really are one muscular lean machine.

Kit
 
well, i usually do two scoops of protein powder and 8 oz of vanilla soy milk. the scoops are 23g each. And then the milk has some. Today i added an extra scoop. it didn't bother my stomach at all and it was after a workout and a turkey/humus/sprout sandwich, so actually it was more than 75gs.

i don't like to make more than one shake a day cause then i have to keep washing the blender, but if it's not safe then i guess i will have to figure something else out.


jes:eek:
 
Jess,

I agree cleaning out the blender is a pain in the A$$. DH bought me one of those hand held blenders so I use it...but only when I'm not adding ice. It's easier to clean :)
 
Your body can only deal with a certain amout of protein at once. Any extra will be more apt to be stored or excreted.

I'm not sure what that amount is, but it's definitely less than 75 gm! (I'm just guestimating 40 gm, but I have no idea. That might even be high as well). 75 gm is actually a good daily intake, IMO.

As with any nutrient (no more than 500 gm of calcium, no more than 500 calories per meal, etc.), it's best to space out your intake throughout the day.
 
>i don't like to make more than one shake a day cause then i
>have to keep washing the blender, but if it's not safe then i
>guess i will have to figure something else out.
>
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Can't you just rinse out the blender with hot water right after making the shake? If not, I'd get a simpler blender.
 
I've read that a regular fit person needs .8 to 1.0gm per kg of weight. If you are training to gain muscle you need slightly more(1.0-1.2/kg of weight). Any more than that(I think it's in grams) and your body will not use it. Plus it's an extra tax on the kidneys.
Carolyn
 
>I've read that a regular fit person needs .8 to 1.0gm per kg
>of weight. If you are training to gain muscle you need
>slightly more(1.0-1.2/kg of weight). Any more than that(I
>think it's in grams) and your body will not use it. Plus it's
>an extra tax on the kidneys.
>Carolyn

I've seen that recommendation as well (in fact, Arnold once stated that he gets 1 gm./kg of his body weight). Unfortunately, I think some people "forget" the km (2.2 pounds) and think they need 1 gm. per POUND of weight.
 
In BFFM, he recommends 1 gram per pound of body weight and I have read the same in Oxygen.

There is nothing wrong with someone consuming 1 gram per lb of body weight. As a matter of fact, it's when I upped my protein to 1.25 grams per lb of body weight that I started seeing more muscle and less fat. When consuming this much protein, you should make sure you drink .5 to 1 gallon of water per day to help the kidneys. And, of course you should try to space it equally between all your meals.
 
When I stated that info about protein and body weight, I was quoting a textbook. I've read this also in many peer reviewed journals as well as from RD's and MD's and Strength and conditioning experts (CSCS). This information is well known thoughout the medical community from what I understand. It is possible that you may have noticed a gain in muscle but that may be due to a number of reasons. You may not have been injesting enough protein before, you may have slightly dehydrated your body therefore more muscle will show, you may have been eating more calories overall which can give you more energy to workout more efficiently, etc. Sure, there may be nothing wrong with eating more protein and basing that on pounds instead of kilograms, but everything that I've read that has been in textbooks and from health care professionals leads me to believe that the body will do nothing with extra protein, especially in the long term.
Carolyn
 
>When I stated that info about protein and body weight, I was
>quoting a textbook. I've read this also in many peer reviewed
>journals as well as from RD's and MD's and Strength and
>conditioning experts (CSCS). This information is well known
>thoughout the medical community from what I understand. It is
>possible that you may have noticed a gain in muscle but that
>may be due to a number of reasons. You may not have been
>injesting enough protein before, you may have slightly
>dehydrated your body therefore more muscle will show, you may
>have been eating more calories overall which can give you more
>energy to workout more efficiently, etc. Sure, there may be
>nothing wrong with eating more protein and basing that on
>pounds instead of kilograms, but everything that I've read
>that has been in textbooks and from health care professionals
>leads me to believe that the body will do nothing with extra
>protein, especially in the long term.
>Carolyn

I agree, Carolyn.

All of what I would consider valid sources of protein consumption info (those that are NOT just looking at aesthetics, but at the health and performance aspects of diet) all recommend less than 1 gm. per pound of body weight.

The American Dietetic Assn. and Andrew Weil both recommend 12-20% of one's daily calories --though Weil does also say that one can go up to 30% maximum. On the other hand, he recommends a lower protein 10% diet for many diseases and health concerns, including arthritis and allergies.

Douglas Brooks recommends 15%.

Stuart McRobert, who has written books for hard-gainer weight trainers and has a web site, recommmends up to 1 gm. of protein for each pound of LEAN body weight ((NOT total body weight) as a maximum (though he says this is probably more than most people need).

Nancy Clark (in her "Sports Nutrition Guidebook") recommends .6 to .8 gm of protein per pound of body weight for strength athletes, while endurance athletes (who do better with more carbs) should get .55 to .6 grams of protein per pound of body weight. This is including a margin of error. She states the maximim useable amount of adults is .9 gm per pound of body weight.
 

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