I know I shouldn't care, but...

jennifermaria

Cathlete
... I can't help it, that number on the scale just really gets to me sometimes :(.

I truly do believe that my weight is just a number and it's more important to be healthy and track how I feel, how my clothes fit, etc. but all that said, when the number on that *&^%ing scale keeps creeping up and I feel as though my infinitesimal margin of error is getting smaller by the day, well... let's just say it gets a bit frustrating.

Please allow me to explain a little (and warning: this may be long):

In 2005, I lost 30 pounds from doing Weight Watchers and training for my first half-marathon Team In Training. I maintained that weight loss--for the most part (+/- 2-3 pounds at most)--for 3 years, until I trained for my first marathon in the summer of 2008 and I ended up gaining 5 pounds. Not a big deal, I thought. 5 pounds was nothing! Surely I could lose that in no time once I stopped training so intensely and could eat at "normal" levels again and do more HIIT and weight work, right?

Um... not right.

Since then, that weight has slowly but surely crept up, no matter what I have tried. I'm now 9 pounds heavier--my highest weight since I lost all that weight 5 years ago. Now granted, I look different at 137 pounds today than I did at 137 pounds when I was first losing the weight (mainly because when I was with Weight Watchers, I was eating largely processed and artificial stuff all in the name of keeping my points low and doing more cardio than weights to earn more activity points), but still, I can't just chalk it up to having more muscle (I have increased my strength training to 3 days/week, vs. 2 days/week), because I still see a layer of fat over my muscles. Worse, that layer of fat is in the worst places possible: my face (which is the first thing people see, and therefore the most obvious signal of my weight gain) and my waist (which, as we all know well, is high risk city for heart disease, etc.). I'm also seeing my measurements creep up ever so slightly week after week, especially in the (you guessed it) belly area.

So I know the weight gain IS a legitimate weight gain--perhaps not all of it (I'm pretty sure I'm retaining water, too), but definitely some or most of it. Thing is, I'm not sure what else I can do other than to keep eating as clean as I can (without driving myself insane by restricting EVERYTHING--for my own mental health, I have to have *some* room for relaxing of the rules) and keep up my strength training and cardio work. I know at some point, my body will get a clue and maybe react to the good things I'm doing and if it doesn't, at least I'm doing things that will keep it healthy, even if that isn't ever reflected in my appearance.

Anyway... thank you for letting me get that off my chest :). I've still got my eyes on the ultimate prize: health. But it would be nice if I could also have some visual reinforcement of all my hard work and see my layer of fat start to thin out (and go away!!) or the weight on the scale go back to my fighting weight of 128 (at 5'5", that's a reasonable weight, IMHO). I feel as though I'm doing more healthy things now than I ever did when I was on WW, and yet my weight was never at its lowest than when I was on WW. Would I go back to eating processed junk again and doing mostly cardio in favor of strength? No, but I do wish my current lifestyle could be rewarded somewhat :p.
 
... I can't help it, that number on the scale just really gets to me sometimes :(.
No, but I do wish my current lifestyle could be rewarded somewhat :p.

Girls, . . .scales are the spawn of satan. Get rid of it, . . throw it in the dump. Pour it in a vat of hot burning oil. You can't obsess over the number. I know we all do sometimes. I have to admit when I'm shopping for jeans and I have to get a size larger than I usually get I am pretty bummed out.
I used to dance ballet a lot as a child and teen, . . .and low and behold I like many other people here devloped an eating disorder and the best advice I ever got to combat my issues with my body was to get rid of the scale and to take things slow. I still struggle with accepting who I am but it is possible. I got rid of my scale and I ate things I enjoyed (natural foods not processed) in moderation, . . because let's face it, . . eating cheesecake makes me happy, . . eating a burger makes me happy, . .I just make sure I eat less of it and I make it myself so I know what goes in it.
The funny thinig is that you say you wish your current lifestyle could be rewarded somewhat, . . .well trust me there are not many people out there that can run a marathon and far fewer that can get through a Cathe workout. You are active and know how to eat healthy pat yourself on the back and give yourself some gosh darn credit for that. Rewards don't always come in a size 2. Trust me I speak on behalf of your heart which beats all that more stronger since you are a fit person. If you don't believe me see what doing nothing does for your body. I've been on a bit of a break from my fitness routine and I am only coming back slowly. I used to be able to push up with the best of them now I'm lucky if I can run 4 miles through and do 15 pushups. My heart feels it too, . . it just is not as strong as it used to be BUT I have faith that with time and patience I'll get there too.
 
I myself do not own a scale. At my annual check up at the doctors, I have maintained the same weight for the last 5 years. (132 lbs.) If I had a scale, i think it would drive me nuts because I would be checking my weight everyday... But that's just me...
 
All true things, ladies, and thank you for the reminders! I think I just needed to hear it from people other than myself LOL.
 
... I can't help it, that number on the scale just really gets to me sometimes :(.

I truly do believe that my weight is just a number and it's more important to be healthy and track how I feel, how my clothes fit, etc. but all that said, when the number on that *&^%ing scale keeps creeping up and I feel as though my infinitesimal margin of error is getting smaller by the day, well... let's just say it gets a bit frustrating.

Please allow me to explain a little (and warning: this may be long):

In 2005, I lost 30 pounds from doing Weight Watchers and training for my first half-marathon Team In Training. I maintained that weight loss--for the most part (+/- 2-3 pounds at most)--for 3 years, until I trained for my first marathon in the summer of 2008 and I ended up gaining 5 pounds. Not a big deal, I thought. 5 pounds was nothing! Surely I could lose that in no time once I stopped training so intensely and could eat at "normal" levels again and do more HIIT and weight work, right?

Um... not right.

Since then, that weight has slowly but surely crept up, no matter what I have tried. I'm now 9 pounds heavier--my highest weight since I lost all that weight 5 years ago. Now granted, I look different at 137 pounds today than I did at 137 pounds when I was first losing the weight (mainly because when I was with Weight Watchers, I was eating largely processed and artificial stuff all in the name of keeping my points low and doing more cardio than weights to earn more activity points), but still, I can't just chalk it up to having more muscle (I have increased my strength training to 3 days/week, vs. 2 days/week), because I still see a layer of fat over my muscles. Worse, that layer of fat is in the worst places possible: my face (which is the first thing people see, and therefore the most obvious signal of my weight gain) and my waist (which, as we all know well, is high risk city for heart disease, etc.). I'm also seeing my measurements creep up ever so slightly week after week, especially in the (you guessed it) belly area.

So I know the weight gain IS a legitimate weight gain--perhaps not all of it (I'm pretty sure I'm retaining water, too), but definitely some or most of it. Thing is, I'm not sure what else I can do other than to keep eating as clean as I can (without driving myself insane by restricting EVERYTHING--for my own mental health, I have to have *some* room for relaxing of the rules) and keep up my strength training and cardio work. I know at some point, my body will get a clue and maybe react to the good things I'm doing and if it doesn't, at least I'm doing things that will keep it healthy, even if that isn't ever reflected in my appearance.

Anyway... thank you for letting me get that off my chest :). I've still got my eyes on the ultimate prize: health. But it would be nice if I could also have some visual reinforcement of all my hard work and see my layer of fat start to thin out (and go away!!) or the weight on the scale go back to my fighting weight of 128 (at 5'5", that's a reasonable weight, IMHO). I feel as though I'm doing more healthy things now than I ever did when I was on WW, and yet my weight was never at its lowest than when I was on WW. Would I go back to eating processed junk again and doing mostly cardio in favor of strength? No, but I do wish my current lifestyle could be rewarded somewhat :p.

You sound like you are fit and healthy, isn't that all tah matters? Forget about the scale... from what I hear the layer of fat is eating habits. I have a thin layer but I'm not willing to eat "clean".. I eat what i want in moderation...and like the OP, I make it myself.
 
Hi Jennifer

I am struggling with the same thing too - the number on the scale creeping upward.

I made my appt for the Body Composition Scan today, I think it will give me real numbers to work with. I'll let you know how it goes.

I am also reading a book that other Cathletes have mentioned, "Younger Next Year", it is helping me get a better perspective. It's funny too.

A few lines from it:

- Fit women live long; strong women live well.
- Aerobic exercise saves your life; strength training makes it worth living.

:D
 
Do NOT get on the scale!!!!! I used to be a slave to it. If I liked the number I was in a great mood for the day. If I did not like the number I was in a terrible mood for the day. It made me crazy. Really. It was a ritual for me every singal day for the longest time. I would wake up, use the bathroom, take off ALL clothes and get on the scale. But one day I had enough and stopped weighing myself. I honestly don't know when I weighed myself last and it feels good -- Like I'm free. Please get rid of that scale -- it's a terrible thing.
 
Jennifermaria, I could have written your post - I also gained a few pounds while training for a race, then a few more crept on over the holidays. 128 is my happy weight but right now is more like 137 like you too.

I don't really have any advice but I certainly wanted to offer my sympathy because I have been there (I AM there) and I know how much it sucks!:confused:
 
Janis: can't wait to hear how it goes! I'm going to be making an appointment with them soon as well. Can't believe how reasonable the price is, and Redwood City's not too far from me (I'm in the South Bay).

Katie: we'll figure it out together! I'm glad to know I'm not alone, though I'm sorry that you're as frustrated as I am too. I know it sounds silly, but I do those positive affirmations anytime I'm having a negative thought or get frustrated. I'm told that one of these days, it'll kick in and my brain will start thinking more positively with this stuff :p.
 
Aveggiegirl and gettingfitmom: I'm with ya, I do think scales are evil LOL! Now if my jeans weren't somewhat agreeing with my scale, I'd let it go, but now even they're starting to get tight, so I know I've definitely got to make some tweaks here...
 
I think you express what a lot of women are frustrated with....being unfairly judged by The Evil Scale. Let's start a movement....NO MORE SCALES!

I tell my clients that the numbers they should be more concerned with are the numbers your doctor gives you....your cholesterol, triglycerides, iron levels, etc. These are the true indicators of a healthier lifestyle and will help you sustain a much higher quality (and quantity) of life.

Also gauge your fitness level by how you feel or what you are able to do better now than you have in the past. Can you go up the stairs without getting breathless? Can you get through an entire Cathe workout without stopping? Are you having fewer headaches or fewer backaches? Do you have more energy at the end of the day? Sleeping better?

Like jennifermaria said, if your clothes are starting to get tighter, that is a better indicator that you are putting on a few pounds (unless the jeans just came out of the dryer). ;)
 
I read these posts and I just want to give you all a hug....*hug*.... I used to do the same thing before I really really really paid attention to the sugars I was eating and honestly wrote everything down that I ate, even down to a mint that I would suck on. Then I was able to see that I was eating waaaay more sugar, even natural sugar than I thought I was. Now I'm not saying that's everyone's case, but sometimes we can ligitimately have a thyroid problem or be on medication that makes the weight harder to lose and easier to gain...so keep that in mind...if you are on certain birth controls or antideppresants, those can help you keep the pounds on, and even gain some...and keep in mind that certain thyroid conditions can crop up anytime in life and it's never a bad thing to make a visit to the Doc and see if your thyroid is functioning properly.....but in addition, really be honest with yourself and write down everything you are eating, good or bad, little or big, and liquids too. And then start calculating by reading labels how many grams of sugar, even natural sugar that you are ingesting.
I recently reviewed a clients food log and he considered himself a "healthy" eater, and there were all kinds of cereals, and pastas, and breads on his meal plan and even a few hostess cupcakes, and in one day he had 112grams of sugar equal to 112 CUBES OF SUGAR!! We wouldn't naturally pick up 112 sugar cubes and down them, but yet, if we really analyze the foods we are eating, we may find that all those sugars are adding up and slowing the fat burning and even promoting fat storage.....
Dr. Oz recommends a 28 day sugar free plan that might be something that jumpstarts your metabolism and gets that dreaded scale heading in the right direction.... Here's the link:

http://www.examiner.com/x-18097-Dr-...2-Dr-Oz-101-How-to-overcome-a-sugar-addiction

Hope that at least gives you some ideas....keep the scale, because it keeps you aware....don't get on it obsessively but it's good to keep you motivated to keep moving forward no matter what.
 
Funny you mention sugar, because sweets are my big downfall, and in the last 2 days, I've made a conscious effort to really avoid added sugar--I'm making sure all the foods I have (and the ingredients I make them with) have minimal sugar and I'm steering clear of my "trigger" foods: cakes and cookies. Much to my surprise, I'm not tearing my hair out or twitching in withdrawal. Though I've had a moment or two of "OMG I have to have something sweet NOW" temptations, I found that I was able to ride those out and sure enough, an hour or two later, I'm not really hankering for the stuff anymore.

What a revelation!!

I've tried to "give up sugar" before, but for some reason have never succeeded--never even made it past the first day. When the temptations come, I always assume they're going to stay put unless I satisfy them, but I'm pleasantly surprised that if I look the temptation in the eye and wait for it to blink first, it does.

I may finally break this sugar addiction after all! I would love to go back to my childhood days when I didn't have a sweet tooth. I could have cakes, cookies, pastries, etc. occasionally, but I wouldn't go out looking for them, and I was fine going weeks without eating them. Growing up, I had much more of a salty/savory/fatty tooth. This all changed when I finished school and started working--a colleague of mine and I would venture to Starbucks every afternoon and I'd down a frappuccino and a scone EVERY DAY (and I wonder how those 30 pounds crept up on me, sheesh!). I firmly believe that having those things every day made my body addicted to them, much like someone would develop an addiction to nicotine once they started smoking regularly.

My mom's birthday is tomorrow and I baked her cake (Tres Leches) and oddly enough, I'm not DYING to have a piece. I probably will, just to taste it, but I will probably have a bite or two and that's it. If you had talked to me a week ago, I'd've told you that I would be super anxious to try it--and I might have even made two cakes just so I could have one that I could cut into and sneak a taste out of the day before LOL. But day 2 of my experimental sugar cleanse has convinced me that I'm actually doing ok with this avoiding added sugar thing.
 
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Great to hear! You will conquer this yet....read read read those labels....sugar is in many things you don't expect...even 1 cup of brocolli has 2grams of sugar...natural sugar but sugar nonetheless....one apple has 17grams of sugar, the same as some small candy bars....again fruit is still again choice because of the fiber, but still can contribute to fat storage if overdone.
Here's some foods with ZERO sugar: most beans specifically black beans, and crowder peas, all meats, eggs and fish...spinach, brown rice, buckwheat, millet and quinoa and other grains, some cheeses, unsweetened almond milk and almond cheese...
Here's some foods with LOW sugar: most vegetables by the 1 cup serving, a serving of oatmeal, laughing cow cheese wedges, cottage cheese, nut butters, most breads (some yeast free breads have NO sugar), salad dressings, and salsas...

Take a look at that Dr. Oz site...it gives really good tips for cutting out sugar...
 
Puffy: face

*some* room for relaxing of the rules

ultimate prize: health. :p.[/QUOTE]

Awww!!!! I hear you. I'm sort of in the same position but 50 pounds heavier. I avoid the scale when I feel fat. I weigh in after two good days of behaving myself.

A couple of things in your post stand out to me, I don't know if you are only looking for sympathy (you got it!) or ideas. I'm posting the ideas just in case you want them. Its normal for a person to put on weight with marathon training. Its very common. I think it has to do with the stress hormones the body puts out to accommodate the recovery to those longer runs. More than an hour in my THR and I don't see the results I want to see, less than thirty minutes in my THR and I don't see the results I want to see. I don't know if this is true for your body, but it might be. Also, for some reason, yoga helps tremendously for me, again I think its the stress hormones.

The puffiness in your face is suggestive of a food allergy or sensitivity to something in your environment. It could be something that you have used all your life and never had a problem before, which is some of the tricky part. Any kind of histamine reaction can cause that.

Some of the things that make it hard for me to lose weight are commercial food (I guess your body is different there lol), soy (estrogens make us plump up) grains, and for some reason excess protein (but hey I'm weird!) Carbs can be an issue. Also, eating too little EFAs can be an issue.
 
Jodelle: I should mention that when I say I'm avoiding sugar, I just mean the kind that's added to foods LOL. I'm not avoiding the natural sugars in dairy, fruits, and veggies--those are my lifelines right now! I also did add a teaspoon of sucanat to my oatmeal this morning, but other than that, nothing. I mainly shop at Trader Joe's and Whole Foods, and fortunately, most of their foods don't have added sugar--and when they do, I typically don't buy them or else don't eat them as often. My sugar intake comes from mostly cakes and cookies and other desserts that I know better than to eat :p.

Another wonderful discovery I made today: I didn't have as many cravings! I'm not talking about cravings for sweets, but cravings in general. I didn't have that, "OMG, when do I get to eat next??" feeling today that I usually have. I did yesterday (day 1 of the no sugar thing), but today it was a little more even keel. Interesting indeed.

RapidBreath: my face isn't so much puffy, but I can tell I've gained weight because I all of a sudden grow a second chin LOL. I had a double chin throughout childhood because I was pudgy for most of it (the boy I liked called my a butterball in 7th grade; that following summer I lost my baby fat when my dad got diagnosed with high cholesterol and we had to clean up our eating), and whenever I gain weight, that and my abdominal area are where you notice it most. Although I do think that even if I lost the extra 9 pounds, I'll probably still have a bit of the double chin--lost elasticity from aging and all. I'm tempted to buy that chin exerciser thing I saw on TV a while back ;).

I wonder if I can blame this all on getting older LOL? It seems I peaked at 30 (the year I lost the 30 pounds!) and then it's been slowly getting harder to maintain as I get further into my 30's.
 
Sounds like you are headed in the right direction! I would say as the cravings start to subside even more, try to even rid yourself of the natural sugars as much as what's possible for you. Recently I cut down to just 15 grams of sugar a day, as an experiment to something I read about how the body only needs 15grams of sugar to function each day. While I would definatley not recommend it for everyone, I had great success! Whatever mental fog I'd been having was gone, and mental clarity took over, and I was able to bring out more muscle defination and becomea bit leaner. It's been about a month now and I've lost about an inch around my hips and leaned out more! I feel incredible with less sugar. My body works better this way. Whether or not it would work for you is unknown as everyone's body responds differently but I just thought I'd let you know its' worth a try!:)
 

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