How much vet for your pet?

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Cathlete
Do you get your cat's teeth cleaned?

My vet wants $325 per cat (and actually, more for the senior cat). That's three cats! Yikes!

Does a cat really need teeth cleaning *every* year? Especially since they get hard food?


Does your cat get any vaccines besides rabies? Do they really *need* anything besides rabies?


My vet wants to see my senior cat twice a year. I'm not really sure what the adcvantage is for my cat.

I feel like every time I go into my vet's office, I'm being pressured to do more and more ($$$) for my pets. The latest is flea prevention.

My cats are completely indoors. I would do just about anything for them, but cannot afford the high price procedures. And quite frankly - that seems to be all the procedures these day - LOL!

I reallize my vet provides an important service, and I am not knocking vets in general. I know they need to make a living, and the cost of doing business is expensive, but gee, whiz. Where does it end? I'm feeling a little taken advantage of these days, like my guilt and soft heart are being exploited.

Your opinions are much appreciated!

Susan L.G.
 
If you feel like your vet is just trying to get money out of you, try another vet.

My vet (that I love to death) tells me when my dog needs certain test and when he doesn't. My dog is 10 years old and he has never had his teeth cleaned, my vet says he simply doesn't need it and to keep doing what I'm going because he has great teeth and gums. When I wanted a second blood test because he has started panting a lot and I was concerned about it, she said that he had just had a blood test a month earlier and that he didnt' need another one.

I'm not saying that my vet bills don't get high...we did a lot of testing to see why he was panting...to the tune of $350, but if my vet had just been out for money, it would have been a lot more.

So I say keep looking, you need to be comfortable with your vet, just like with your own doctor.:)

DeeDee
 
My CJ that is no longer with me had her teeth cleaned once, she was about 8 years old when I had it done and once doing it I swore to never do that to a cat again. She was sick for 2 or 3 days and couldn't jump up on the couch, bed, etc... and even had trouble walking. It was from the medicine she was given in order to clean the teeth. I felt like such a bad mom and hated seeing her in pain like that.

As for shots, I know that my cats get 3 shots each year I believe, feline luk., rabies, and something else but I do think those are all important.

The benefit of getting the shots twice a year instead of all at the same time is just that it is easier on the cat & has less of chance of making them feverish for a day or so... that being said it isn't "bad" to have all of them done at once. I have mine split out but I don't think my vet charges that much for each visit so I don't mind.

HTH! :)
 
Susan,

I think you should try another vet also. I do get my cats teeth cleaned-it was $800.00 for 2 senior cats BUT I did get the pre-anesthetic blood work and IVs in the leg in case something happened. You dont need to get all the extras-its optional and the vet should have explained that to you. I get my cats teeth cleaned every 2 years and that seems to work for them. I also dont get the rabies vaccine for my indoor cats and the vet suggests I dont get them unless there is a chance the cats might bite someone-which there is not. I agree with DeeDee you need to be comfortable with your vet.
Good Luck

Lisa
 
Since my cats don't go out, and the rabies is the only one required by law, why bother with the other vaccines?
 
You dont have to bother with the other vaccines in fact the vets usually tell you that they are not necessary and they dont give them unless the owner wants them-cats are overvaccinated. Rabies is not required by law here in Arizona.

Lisa
 
One of my cats goes outside so it is important for her to have all shots. The feline luk. can be passed from cat to cat so since Storm goes outside I also need to have Sport protected with all of them also.

I'm not sure if you would need all if none of your animals go outside, I would maybe get a 2nd opinion if you don't like/trust your current vet. I'm sure you could also do a google search and find out more information.

I have never really done any research so just going by what my vet has told me and I do trust her.

:)
 
Susan.
My former cat, Adrian, the vet wanted to clean his teeth cause he was on canned food. He told me my other alternative was to change to hard food like Iams or Science Diet, but Adrian might choke on his own blood from tooth decay if wasn't cleaned, being that Adrian was a half breed Siamese, he spit it out instead. Adrian for his last 5 years on earth never received an vaccination cause he was an indoor cat and quite healthy. He died from kidney failure, which happens when we all get older.
Seville and Madrid came from the Humane Society. Both were diagnosed with URIs although Madrid ended up on steroids and meds by injection since he was not eating and was under observation for a week's stay at the Vets office. Both of them received their "baby" and first year shots because they were so ill when they came home.
All 3 cats cost me a small fortune in vet fees. Being my Dad is a retired physcian, I ask questions about everything. There are similiar prognosis for feline/canine as it is for human medicine.
The flea treatment, I would question since your pet is indoors on what basis they are encouraging you do this.
 
This book might help your decision, "Dr Pitcairns New Complete Guide to Natural Health for Cats and Dogs" it is a holistic approach to animal care and prevention of illness, etc. Good Luck!

Amy L.
 
one way to save money on vet bills is to give some of the vaccinations/ yourself. We give our dogs their 7way and our cat distemper ourselves. It's a very simple thing to do. It doesn't even seem to bother them. We also worm animals ourselves. We purchase vaccines from Tractor Supply. You can get them at any farmers coop. You can give rabies as well, but you won't have the documentation you need for tags etc. As far as I know you have to go to the vet for the lukemia shot. Don't start heartworm treatment without first getting a baseline test from your vet.
 
The lowdown on cat vaccines, as I know it:

#1 - Feline Panleukopenia (distemper) is spread through the air and all cats should have the vaccination, even indoor cats.

#2 - Feline Leukemia is spread by cat to cat contact. Indoor cats probably don't need it.

#3 - Rabies is also spread from animal to animal contact. An indoor cat won't need it but in some states it's required by law (???).

There's also a vaccine for common respirtory ailments that cats often get. Feline Herpesvirus and calicivirus and Chlamydia virus vaccines (I had to look that one up). All these viruses are spread through the air and indoor as well as outdoor cats should be vaccinated - it's usually combined with the distemper shot.

As for teeth cleaning, I think that varies from cat to cat, and how fastideous your vet thinks the teeth should be. I have two, 5-year old cats that my vet (same vet for 12 years) says their teeth check out fine. My other cat (now passed on) had to have his teeth cleaned every-other year - and you could see the plaque build-up. He also was a very picky eater and half his diet was canned food. The two cats I have now only eat dry, with an occasional nibbly from the cook's cutting-board (chicken, fish).

Diane
 
My cats (and dogs) get the initial series of vaccinations (I think it is two or 3 shots within the first year), however, I do not buy into the necessity of yearly booster shots and I had good experience with it. The practice of yearly booster shots has become highly controversial even among vets!

One of my cats (outdoor cat) is 12 years old now, we have had her since she was 3 or 4 years old, she hasn't had any booster shots, only the first few shots when we got her, she is as perky as can be and has never been sick.

I do, however, believe in prevention through nutrition! By that I don't mean the trumped up claims of most commercial pet food manufactures who, IMHO, produce "McDonald's Fast Food for Cats and Dogs". They have pretty pictures of whole foods on their packages but if you do the research most of them have more than questionable ingredients in pet food, they can only claim "balanced nutrition" by adding vitamins to their highly processed food.

Most packaged kibble or canned food for pets is certainly convenient but by no means would I consider it healthy or anywhere close to "clean eating". All my pets eat a varied, homemade diet of meat, grains and veggies, it only takes me about 10 minutes for fresh food every day (I buy the meat frozen through Oma's Pride (a pet food company), I think it is worth it.
None of my pets have ever been seriously ill, even though they don't get yearly booster shots and they are not on heart worm prevention and some of them I had for over 10 years. They do get their rabies shots though.

I believe that most pets - if fed a varied and nutrious diet and get some exercise every day (just like humans :) ) - can handle any viruses or diseases they are faced with and really don't need any additional vaccinations or procedures. I think we are killing our pets with highly processed food, flea and tick prevention and over-vaccinating them.

Please no flaming, I am not trying to slam any vets or pet food manufacturers, this is a personal opinion based on my research on this subject and my personal experience.

As was suggested before, Dr. Pitcairns Complete Guide to Natural Health for Cats and Dogs, is a great resource, well worth the money!

I know how you feel, I had a vet before who was trying to convince me I needed all those high-priced procedures for my pets and the vet tech made me feel like I am a horrible pet owner for not wanting to shell out thousands of $$.

Good luck!

Carola
 
Carola,

I feel the exact same way as you-and so does my vet thats why I go there. I only do the first series of shots and thats it. I also dont believe that there is a vaccine for herpes virus in cat-correct me if Im wrong but I dont think there is.

Lisa
 
That's ridiculous for teeth cleaning!
My vet charges about $60 per cat, but February is "Pet Dental Health Month," and the prices are 20% off.

I'm trying a new thing for my pets: http://www.petzlife.com/ it's an antibacterial dental product for animals that is supposed to remove plaque and make dental cleanings unneccessary. The before-and=after photos are pretty convincing. They've only been taking it for a few days, so I can't speak to results yet.

A friend of mine brushes her pets' teeth a couple of times a week. (My cats are already not too happy about the salmon-flavored gel, I don't think they'd stay still for brushing).


Have any of you heard of vet techs who clean cats teeth without anesthesia? I caught an episode of that Hugh Hefner show (you know, Hugh and his 3 'girlfriends') and a vet tech went to the mansion and cleaned the teeth of one of the girls' cats, with no anesthesia (though she had to use a bag to wrap her like a burrito---but suggested that most cats didn't need it). Weird!
 
I make sure all my pets are spayed/neutered, then they get all their vaccinations once a year. That's all I do unless they get sick and something comes up.
 
Yes, there is a cat herpes virus vaccine, rhinotrachitis. There also are quite few more vaccines for cats out there than what was mentioned before, including the FIP virus vaccine (as a matter of fact, I lost a 9- months-old HEALTHY cat many years ago due to developing the disease after the vaccine was admistered).The question just is, how effective are those vaccines, and do the risks outweigh the benefits?

I am not against vaccinating as an initial protection in kittens or puppies, research has shown that most of the illnesses that affect cats (or dogs for that matter) are comparable to childhood diseases in children and that the initial series of vaccinations protects 95 % of pets and that yearly booster shots are unnessicary and in many cases even trigger extensive problems.

This is taken directly from a website, called www.holisticcat.com

"Cats suffer greatly from vaccination damage. The most obvious vaccine-induced problem is one that is deathly serious, causing great suffering among cats and cat companions. Fibrosarcomas, a type of cancer, occur more and more as a result of vaccination. The vaccines that are implicated are the rabies and feline leukemia virus vaccines. These cancers arise at the site of injection of one of the vaccines. Researchers have identified vaccine particles within the cancer mass in a number of cases; the link is definite. Many veterinarians now refer to these cancers as vaccine sarcomas. Fibrosarcomas are malignant, and the average life expectancy is less than three years once the cancer has arisen. No treatment has proven satisfactory. Even with aggressive surgical removal, these cancers recur in the vast majority of cats. Some leading veterinarians recommend giving the vaccines in a leg, or even in the tail (ow!), to make amputation a viable option in case the cancers arise. Does this make sense?

Obviously, when we reach the point of making recommendations like these, we are out of control. But do we simply avoid vaccinations in order to avoid all risk? Or is there possibly more risk by not vaccinating? Personally, I am opposed to vaccination in virtually all situations, but I will endeavor to give some guidelines that will assist you in making a balanced decision regarding your feline companions.

There are four criteria that are at the center of any vaccine decision. One should only consider administering a vaccine if all four criteria are met:

1. The disease is serious, even life threatening.

2. The animal is or will be exposed to the disease.

3. The vaccine for the disease is known to be effective.

4. The vaccine for the disease is considered safe.

Let’s look at individual diseases to see how this works. I’ll start with feline leukemia virus (FeLV) disease. An indoor-only cat will not be exposed (number two) as this virus requires direct, intimate, cat-to-cat contact for transmission. Many veterinarians recommend immunizing indoor cats against this disease, but I feel this is unethical. This disease does not fit criteria numbers three or four anyway in my experience, so vaccination is unwarranted in most if not all circumstances. If a vaccine for the feline immunodeficiency virus were developed, it would be the same as for FeLV.

Feline infectious peritonitis (FIP) is another disease that fits neither three nor four, and rarely number two. The FIP virus vaccine has generally been found ineffective and has produced severe side effects. Among the side effects I have observed with both FIP and FeLV vaccines is induction of the clinical disease they were intended to prevent.

Feline panleukopenia virus is very serious and the vaccine is quite effective, but most cats will not be exposed to the virus and the disease generally affects kittens only. Only those cats that are likely to be exposed would benefit from vaccination, and one vaccination between the age of ten to twelve weeks will protect 95 percent of cats for life. (Schultz)

With the feline upper respiratory diseases (calicivirus and rhinotracheitis virus as well as feline chlamydia), most are not serious except in very young kittens. These kittens generally contract the disease before vaccines would typically be administered, so the vaccine is not often beneficial. If you choose to immunize for these, use the intranasal form, and do not vaccinate for chlamydia. The chlamydia fraction produces poor immunization"

Do your own research, but PLEASE don't blindly believe in the necessity of yearly booster shots which by now is controversial among many vets! And for heaven's sake don't spend uddles of money on vaccines, giving you a false sense of security. IMHO, you are better off spending that money on quality fresh food instead of highly processed foods, it will save you money in the long run and your furry friends will be much happier and healthier!

Carola
 

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