HELP...Vitamins....Have you heard of these???

OK. Be ready for this post. This is gunna be a big one! I compared the two labels side by side and I'll put the info below. I also would like you to go up toward the top of this incredibly long thread where I talk about 3 types of vitamins (it is post #177297). I'm going to start out my talking about the red flags to look for when choosing a supplment. Take a BIG BREATH...OK, here it goes:

Here are the red flags to look for when choosing a supplement:

Food Supplements Should Contain Close to 100% DV of All the Essential Nutrients

1. B Vitamins:
Be alert to supplements containing extremely large amounts of the inexpensive B vitamins (thiamine, riboflavin and niacin…see chart)…as well as those containing less than 100% of the Daily Value for the more expensive, but very critical B vitamins, biotin and folic acid. Folic acid, in particular, is critical for reducing risks for neural tube birth defects, colon cancer and heart disease, but is very difficult to absorb from vitamin tablets. Shaklee has a patented formula that coats the B vitamin tablet with the folic acid on the outside, and thus greatly enhances its absorption. Shaklee B complex contains 100% biotin.

B vitamins work as a family and each B vitamin is needed in the utilization and assimilation of the other B vitamins. If one B vitamin is present in large excess or one B vitamin is not in adequate amounts, it may actually interfere with the utilization of the other B vitamins.

B vitamins are so interrelated in function that large doses of any one of them many be therapeutically valueless or may even cause a deficiency in the B family members used to metabolize the ones in very high amounts. If extra B6 is taken in 50-milligram potencies, it is important that a complete B complex accompany it, (otherwise side effects can occur). The B complex should not all be in 50-milligram potencies, but each B vitamin should be increased proportionately per the recommended Daily Values.
Resource: Nutrition Almanac

Therefore, since the recommended Daily Value differs greatly for each B vitamin, it is recommended that you avoid supplements that deliver all the B vitamins in the same dosage of 100, 75 or 50-milligrams so as not to throw the B vitamins in your bloodstream out of balance. This is more of a marketing technique than sound nutritional rationale.

2. Mineral
Most minerals such as calcium, phosphorus and magnesium, are very bulky to a tablet. Be cautious of one-a-day type vitamins, as they cannot possibly contain enough minerals to be effective. Also request clinical studies on the tablet disintegration and absorption of your brand. Many companies compress their tablets so tightly that they never breakdown in the intestinal tract for proper absorption.
A good multi should have zinc and copper in a 1:1 ratio and contain essential trace minerals of molybdenum, chromium and manganese.

3. Beta Carotene
Beware of dry tablets that claim to contain Beta Carotene. Dry forms of the Beta Carotene are synthetically produced.

4. Beware of nutrients listed on the label in quantities so small as to be negligible in effectiveness. Such labeling may have more to do with marketing than scientific rationale.

Research indicates that in order for Lutein to be effective, a person would need about 5000 mcg. The Lutein in CarotoMax (5000 mcg) is what research has found to be beneficial.

5. The reason Shaklee does not include potassium in Vita-Lea is because the Dietary Goals of the U.S. for potassium suggests 2000 mg daily for adults and children 10-18. Lower amounts are suggested for other age groups. The amount of potassium in the average American’s diet has been estimated at 2000 to 6000 milligrams a day, since it is distributed in many different foods. Resource: Nutrition Almanac

A deficiency of phosphorus is rare because it is found in a wide variety of foods. Even so, Shaklee includes more in Vita-Lea than any of the other brands used for comparison.

Here are how the two size up side by side.


Vitamin GNC Womens Ultra Mega Shaklee
Vitamin A 100% 100%
Vitamin C 333% 200%
Vitamin D 100% 100%
Vitamin E 333% 200%
Vitamin K 100% 100%
Thiamin (B1) 5333% 100%
Riboflaven (B2) 4706% 100%
Niacin (B3) 175% 100%
Vitamin B6 4000% 100%
Folate 100% 100%
Vitamin B12 1333% 100%
Biotin 100% 100%
Pantothenic Acid 800% 100%
Calcium 50% 45%
Iron 100% 100% or 0%
Iodine 100% 100%
Magnesium 63% 50%
Zinc 100% 100%
Selenium 286% 100%
Copper 100% 100%
Manganese 100% 175%
Phosphorus 0% 35%
Chromium 100% 108%
Molybdenum 100% 213%

And then the GNC brand has special additions for women such as: (Alpha Lipoic Acid, Choline, Green Tea Leaf Extract, Cranberry Concentrate, Inositol, Silica, Boron, Lycopene, Lutien, Zeaxanthin, Astaxanthin, & Vanadium)

Shaklee has these special mineral additions: (Nickel, Tin, Vanadium, Boron, & Silicon).

OK, my little fingers are tired on that one. That was by far the longest post I have EVER done! :) Hope this helps!
 
Ok, the chart looked really cool when I typed it, but when I posted it, it all got crammed together. The first number is the percentage in GNC Women's Ultra Mega, and the second percentage is Shaklee's. Sorry about that!
 
Thanks Robin:)

Robin thanks a bunch. I will print this out. BTW I just sent this link to my mom, Hi Mom if you are reading this.
 
Robin, sorry to bother you again. I know you wrote this somewhere but since this is getting long I am having a hard time finding it but I am 39 years old and not going through menopause do I order with or without Iron?
 
I'm pretty amazed at how long this thread has become, too!! Wow! I'm in the middle of a bunch of major life stressors and didn't get a chance to order anything yet, but I popped back here to get the link and find 5 pages!! :)

I do remember the B vitamin info after you mentioned it - it was really great at minimizing PMS (dont' know if you mentioned that, but it really seemed to help) and also during times of stress.

Also, about the cleaners - we used the Basic H for fruit and veg washing waaaay before that was a commercial product. My mom actually started that when I was in high school - the Basic H removes the waxy coating that a lot of produce has to protect and preserve it during shipping. The problem is that the coating is also sticky and makes all manner of dirt and yucky stuff stick to it. If you just use water, you're not getting that coating off. (Not to say that the wax, itself, is bad for you, but all the stuff sticking to it can't be healthy!)

Kind of neat to be reading all this from another source - my mom would be happy to know she WAS right about something ;) after all!

Now, I gotta go check out that link again!

Thanks!

KC
 
If you are pre-menapausal, you get the iron formula
if you are menapausal/post-menapausal or a man, you take the NO iron formula!

Here is my link to my website too, that probably got lost somewhere in these zillions of posts.

www.shaklee.net/robin_walker

Good Question. You are right, this thread is getting insane!!! But that is ok! :)
 
Hey Grace Note (I love that name by the way). Shaklee has a great pre-natal program for expectant mommies like yourself. Here is their suggestions for mommy's to be:

A basic program for pregnant women is Vita-Lea (multi) with iron, Super Cal Mag Plus (helps with stomach sickness and muscle cramps…tablets or chewable) and iron+C complex. Soy protein is a wonderful thing to add if you know you are not getting enough protein in your day. Being pregnant, you need more protein too, and this is an excellent source of protein for you and your baby!

This is the base for great prenatal nutrition. You could do the "Basics" pack that was mentioned ealier in this thread, and it would just give you some extra vitamins. Shaklee's B vitamin (which is included in the "Basics" pack) is coated with folate (a patented formula) and gets right into your blood stream, and we all know how important folic acid is for our babies! If you want a comparison chart on how Shaklee compares to pre-natals, email me personally at [email protected] and I can give you the comparison sheet. It is pretty interesting!

Once again my website is at www.shaklee.net/robin_walker
 
OK. I didn't get my first order yet and I placed an order for the Basic-H cleaner. I need a good fruit and vege cleaner and this sounds great. Plus it sounds like this stuff goes a long, long way. Just thought I'd let you know! Thanks for the comments about Basic-H Grace Note! (P.S. Don't you hate it when you realize that your mother was right all along!) HEE...HEE
 
I can't remember what it's called but I used a Shaklee cleaner for sinks and tubs and it did a great job and lasted FOREVER! The kids said it smelled good, too.



Angie
 
Hey Angie. There is a product called "At Ease" which you use where you would normally use Comet or other abrassives. It has sand in it and has a nice fruity smell, and unlike Comet, it has no noxious fumes to it and is safe for kids to be around! I use it a lot on my stove top to clean off the burnt stuff that gets on there (yes, I do burn my food occasionally! :)
 
Robin,

Like Rose, haven't received my first order yet, I am thinking about the fruit and veggi clearner. I used to use salt water or soda water to clean it. So Basic-H can be used to clean fruit & veggi? How do you dilute the Basic-H? Do you need special container? Do you need to dilute it once or you can dilute whenever you need it? How long can you keep it after dilute?

Thanks

WantFit
 
Basic-H is a cool product. It is 100% biodegradable and safe for children and pets. You can use it for a zillion things! It comes VERY concentrated, Shaklee does not believe in shipping water, so they give you the pure stuff and you dilute it. For Fruits and Vege's you use 1/4 tsp. of Basic-H to a pint of water. You can dilute it when ever you need more. You do not have to dilute it all at once our you would have GALLONS of vege wash! :)

Basic-H was the first fruit and vegetable wash on the market. You can make up your own solution in just a spray bottle you may already have in your house, that is what I use. Once it is diluted, it will stay good for a long time. To be honest, I don't know how long it can stay diluted because I've never read any research on that. I probably refill my bottle once a month because I use it to wash my countertops too!

Basic-H removes the residues left from sprays, waxes and dirt. It also removes grit from leafy vegetables. It is much less expensive than other produce washes when you look at how much you get.
Basic-H comes in 16 oz bottle, 1 quart, 1 gal, 5 gal, & 30 gal. (They sell to big companies and they buy the big containers).

To be honest, the small 16 oz. bottle will last you quite awhile. I bought the 1 quart because I use it as window wash, counter top wash, I clean my floors with it, and as strange as it sounds, I wash my dog in it (it naturally drowns fleas and is good for senstive dog skin) and I even use it on my daughter. I have a document that shows everything you can use Basic-H for. If you want it, email me at [email protected] and I can forward that document to you! You can also read more about it at www.shaklee.net/robin_walker
 
Robin,

Thanks for your patient with me. Now you got me more questions...;-)

At Ease sounds very attractive to me. The regular stove cleaner has such a strong fume, I have to evacuate my kids out of home whenever we do the stove and sink cleaning. I saw there are two forms of At Ease. One is powder, the other is liquid. What's difference? What is your recommendation? My sinks are white color made or ceremic material(Next time, I would never choose this color), even comet has hard time to take off the coffee and tea stains from it. Will At Ease take those stains out from my type of sinks?

Thanks

WantFit
 
No problem WantFit! These products are new to you and of course you don't know what is what! I didn't either when I first started with Shaklee.
Here is the product blurbs on the two:
At-Ease Liquid Cleaner:
"Protect your tub, sinks,a nd countertops from scrathcing with this non-abrasive cleanser. Its natural grease-cutting formula scours and polishes without scratching and then rinses away without residue. And because it cleans without ammonia, chlorine, or toxic-fumes, your nose will appreciate it as well. Leaves behind a clean, fresh citrus scent".
At-Ease Heavy-Duty Scouring Cleanser
"Dirty ovens and sinks, messy stovetops, charred barbecues, and baked-on casseroles require a havey-duty cleanser. But that doesn't mean it has to be filled with harmful chemicals in order to perform. This hardworking cleanser uses natural abrasives to get the job done without ammonia, chlorine, or toxic-fumes. Its tough cleaning paste quickly and safely scours greasy dirt and hard-to-clean surfaces.

The liquid is for delicate surfaces which people do not want to scratch. The Heavy-Duty Scouring Cleanser is a paste that has a sandy texture to it. I really don't know how this would do on your ceramic sink. Those are really porous, and I've never tried it before! I'm guessing since it is a porous material, you should try the Heavy-Duty Scouring Cleanser since it has the "grit" to it like Comet does. Sorry if that wasn't a clear answer for you.
 
Robin,

Your explanations help me to make another orders for both At Ease liquid and paste cleaners. You do really need to thank Rose for her posting... :7

WantFit
 
Hey WantFit! You will like those two cleaners. You will have to let me know how they do on those tough tea/coffee stains on your sink! Maybe later I'll fill you in on my "secret recipe" on how to get pretty much any stain out of childrens clothes! It does wonders on my daughters 'explosions' and food stains....anyway that's for another talk!
 
Thanks for bumping this interesting thread - I'll have to check it out!

Just an FYI... my doctor (a naturopath) sells her vitamins to the owners of the GNC stores in town. Apparently THEY know hers are better!
 
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