Dog Question...

marnold

Cathlete
Okay, I must be the dumbest dog owner on earth. Let me give you a little history...

My DH and I have never had two dogs of the same breed, the same age or the same sex.

Recently, after a long illness, I lost my female Chow Chow. My DH went out and got me a female GSD puppy. I already had a male neutered Husky.

Today, we found out that Athena's brothers have not found homes. I am considering opening our home to one of Athena's brothers.

Okay, here is my stupid question:

Do brothers and sisters know not to have relations with each other?

My DH asked me and told him I didn't think so but wasn't sure.

Sorry about the redneck term "relations" but I didn't want to offend anyone.

Thanks in advance for an answer! :)
 
Take this advice from someone who raised a litter of puppies and witnessed their reunion almost a year later....

NOOOO!!!! Brother and sister dogs don't know not to **ahem** have "relations" with each other. Even mother and son for that matter (gross, I know).

In-breeding (siblings with each other) happens all the time in the K9 world, many times done intentionally to preserve or exploit certain characteristics (i.e., larger head, coloring).

Dogs, particularly without being spayed or neutered, will eventually succumb to the primal urge to mate with each other.

Of course...there are probably some exceptions, but generally, animals don't draw the line like humans do!!! :)
 
Thanks Rose!

I am so relieved! I will NOT bring Athena's brother home. I am so glad that someone knew the answer! WHEW!!!!
 
Of course, if you spay or neuter one of them...you will be just fine and they can enjoy the company of one another.

Also, keep in mind....female dogs only go into heat about once every 3-4 months (sometimes longer). That is the only time they are primed for breeding. And a female dog's first heat isn't until they are almost a year old (again, give or take a month or so).

I wanted to throw that in as well just in case the above mentioned perimeters make a difference in your situation!

Good luck! :D
 
Thanks for the info Rose!

I never fixed my female Chow Chow because the Husky was already fixed when we saved him. I guess my ignorance is somewhat excused. :)

Right now, I don't think I want to deal with two spazzy puppies! One is enough I think! LOL! It will take a lot of consideration...and I might need to take stock in a dog chew company! :eek:
 
I have a 4 month old Aussie puppy so I know what you mean about "spazzy" and taking stock in a chewie company. I always leave a boatload of chewies around for him so he chews them and not things we don't want to...

But, I would recommend getting the female spayed unless you plan on showing her. Believe me, it'll save you a ton of hassles. Unless you show and are interested in breeding her to get a show line, there is no reason to breed. Jimmy, the Aussie, will be fixed when he's 8 months old.
 
Thanks for the advice Christine. My DH is actually considering showing and breeding her. His BF has a male stud from similar (not the same LOL) blood lines.
 
"And a female dog's first heat isn't until they are almost a year old (again, give or take a month or so)."

That's not necessarily true. When I rescued my lab/retriever cross female, she was just shy of 8 months old and had already had a litter of puppies. Poor little thing:(
 
>My DH is actually considering showing and breeding her. His BF has >a male stud from similar (not the same LOL) blood lines.

Has your female been in heat already? I hope you don't mind my unsolicited advise! I wish someone would have given me that advise. Last year in December I bought a female Mini Australian Shepherd. My intention was not to breed her (mainly due to time constraints), however, I had fallen in love with the dog and the only way to get her was to let the breeder have two litters back. That way I had to pay a little less. At this point, I can only tell you, WHAT THE HECK WAS I THINKING!!!!! I would lovingly pay any price, so I don't have to go through this again.

If you want to show and breed your dog, it's going to cost you a lot of money, if you want to do it right. Vet cost, x-rays (to make sure the hips are ok - in respect to hip displasia), eye testing, you name it. You will be looking at a couple of thousand $$ before you can breed your dog. Not to mention the papers for registering your dog, and the cost for dog shows. I just coughed up $ 300 for ONE dog show, and that doesn't include hotel, air fare/gas ......

It is recommended to not breed your dog until she is 2 years old. So you will be going through at least 3 heat cycles. Let me tell you from my experience, IT IS A NIGHTMARE!!!

Boy, did I have no clue what I was getting myself into!!! She went into heat the end of March (female dogs go into heat every 6 months and it lasts about 3 weeks) and I didn't recognize my sweet little girl anymore. Her personality and behavior totally changed. Without wanting to go into to much detail .... the rabbitt comparision comes to mind and the "bee and flowers talk" with my kids became obsolete. Now, I have 3 neutered males and didn't think it was going to be a problem. Well, it was, two of them hadn't figured out, that half of their equipment was ..... shall we say, gone.

I had to keep her seperated the whole time and she would go balistic in her kennel, whine, cry, howl, bark .... (you get the picture) and that for hours at a time. Just to put it in perspective, she rarle ever barks and never howls otherwise.

Depending on where you live, you may have all male dogs in a radius of 10 miles show up at your door step and not leave. And there is no fence high enough for a male dog who wants to get to a female. So be prepared to keep her locked up for 3 weeks.

If you decide to breed, you'll need to figure out when her fertile days are (it's not the whole 3 weeks, it's a small window of a few days during those 3 weeks). Experienced breeders can tell, most of us can't, so you may need to get a vet to test and of course, pay. When you breed, you should only breed them every 48 hours and keep them apart for the rest of the time. Lots of fun, I can tell you.

I just went through this in April and I was close to a nervous breakdown - no exaggeration, and I am not someone who gets easily thrown off track!

My dog will be having puppies June 21, I just looked into all the supplies I will need, if she has her puppies at our house. Whelping box, pads, scissors, heatlamp, syringe .... another $ 700, that's if everything goes well and I don't need to call the vet.

After they are born and at 3 weeks or so, they'll have to go to the vet for check up, then there will be deworming, vaccinations and not to mention all the work with cleaning and sozializing the pups.

Be aware, that if you do it right, there is not much money to be made in breeding dogs. Most reputable breeders will do it for the love of the breed and to improve the breed. The ones that are in for the money, are puppy mills, and we all know what that results in!

I hope you are not offended by my unsolicited advise, I just don't want anyone to go into this as unprepared as I was. If you feel you can handle it and you want to do it, go for it, but go into this prepared and with your eyes open.

Carola
 
>"And a female dog's first heat isn't until they are almost a
>year old (again, give or take a month or so)."
>
>That's not necessarily true. When I rescued my lab/retriever
>cross female, she was just shy of 8 months old and had already
>had a litter of puppies. Poor little thing:(
>



Omigoodness!!!!!!! I have never heard of a dog having puppies that young! She was just a puppy herself. Poor little thing is right!
 
Also keep in mind that other males in the ears will be very interested in a female in heat. They can smell them a mile away, and she has to go outside to potty!!!
 
>Also keep in mind that other males in the ears will be very
>interested in a female in heat. They can smell them a mile
>away, and she has to go outside to potty!!!
ooppps! AREA
 
Taken from the "Arrow" thread.


<---Dog question thread received advice which didn't really need but KNEW I would get...know what I mean? but resisted temptation and posted a lovely reply with a bloody bitten lip.>


Perhaps you should not have asked for advice if you "really didn't need it"

People are just trying to help.
 
I asked for the advice and I got it, you are correct. I thanked the person who originally answered my question graciously.

I also got advice which was given from a view point that I am somehow completely ignorant when it comes to being a responsible pet owner.

I am aware that there are homeless animals and have adopted as many as is humanly possible for me. My initial question had absolutely nothing to do with whether I should breed my pet or not.

I somehow knew I would get flamed for being a horrible person who didn't fix my animal. I wish people would not assume that I am so stupid and irresponsible. Helpful?
 
Melissa,

I think the problem was more that you asked, if brother and sister dogs can and will reproduce.

You mentioned that you wanted to breed your pet, and with all due respect and I don't mean to offend you, but it sounded from your initial question that you don't know much about breeding dogs. My exerience is very "fresh" (and not in a good way) and I thought I share it with you. Just wanted to be helpful.

I am sorry you got offended by it and I take my unsolicited advise back. Just pretend it never happened }(

Carola
 
I'm really sorry that you feel that way, but for those of us involved in breed rescue, we read what you wrote and cringe. Maybe what you meant is not how it came across and if so please accept my apologies.
 
I'm not trying to offend, just making a statement. Approximately SIX to NINE MILLION animals are killed in shelters in the U.S. every year. Rethink breeding.

Lorie
 

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