binge confessions (long)

kariev

Cathlete
hi ladies, need a little support. i just binged big time.:-( i am your typical all or nothing person. when i'm in the zone i become the perfect eater and never skip a workout. i have been doing this for a few months and the past two weeks i had a few cheats here and there but nothing terrible. today i woke up from a nap and just wanted to eat everything and not care and thats what i just did. i have a history of binge eating. i have done the whole conseling thing and i know it all centers in my mind. bottom line is i'm just so sick of thinking about food all the time, brining it with me wherever i go, being so regimented. but in the same breath i'm petrified to gain the weight i lost off. i have read all the diet books out there and it just seems like they are making me more crazy and farther and farther away from listening to my own body. i'm also afraid that if i listen to my own body all it wants to eat is junk. my fiance' is coming home so i have to plan a lie on why i don't want to eat dinner so i don't have to feel embarressed about it. can any of you relate to this???? i haven't binged in months and i'm trying to figure out why i did. my answers were i was tired and i have just been too strict with myself lately. last week i was supposed to take a week off from exercise but i didn't allow myself to. i probably won't workout today. i don't want to punish myself for what i have just done. to really get it out there, here is what i ate:
2 packages of pop tarts (4 total)
6 waffles with probably 1 tablespoon of peanut butter on them each
1 pint of light cookie dough ice cream
half a bag of banana chips
yes this was all in one sitting; i'm so emabarrassed to even admit. i just can't seem to find that balance anymore. i want a happy medium. mabe i should go back to therapy again but it didn't reallly help much. i feel so guilty, bloated, lazy, full, sick, sad, empty, right now. but i know tomorrow is another day and i need not beat myself up too much. thanks for reading it helped to vent some.
 
I don't feel qualified to give your helpful advice but I wanted to send you a hug and some words of encouragement. I have faith that you will make it through this.
 
Big Hugs :)

We are here for you.

Just a thought maybe next time you feel like a binge is coming on you can hop on here and send another message and with all the support of us will be able to have you think twice.
 
Hi Karley,

You are in good company with me!

A very close friend of mine is having a birthday.

We cut the cake last evening and I must have eaten 1,000 calories of cake at one sitting! Actually probably more since 1/20th of the cake had 580 calories!

I know it is not right and I know it is nasty and I surely feel sick today.

Don't be afraid to admit it here because there are people here who have done the same thing and totally understand.
 
Don't beat yourself up over it. It's already in the past and all you can do is move forward. Try to figure out your triggers and go from there.

I do think that when one becomes too regimented, you can start to feel deprived and that could lead to a binge. Right now I am doing the clean eating challenge so I am on of those that is packing all my meals and being very strict. Since I know I can become too regimented and rigid, I promised myself that I would only do it strictly for two weeks. After that, I am going to do it but not be as strict. I want to be able to go out for meals and have a sweet (chocolate) if I am really craving it. I KNOW that if I felt like I was totally depriving myself, I would go overboard the other way.

Anyway, just get back on your horse and forget about it (I know, easier said than done). Don't beat yourself up and don't feel like you did something "wrong."

Hugs to you!

Lorie
 
>i know tomorrow is another day and i need not beat myself up too much. thanks for >reading it helped to vent some.

I think this is the best advice that you can get here:) What's done is done....I too find myself bingeing on occaision and admire your bravery in disclosing what you consumed in your fragile state. A binge is such a roller coaster, in the midst of it we are so consumed with the instant gratification and mindless justification and when it is done the regret, guilt and self loathing rises to the fore. When food is used in an attempt to fill empty or raging emotional places we wage a losing battle from the get go. Try to stand outside of yourself and have compassion for the guilty, sad and empty soul you feel like in this moment, self love and self nurturing as balance to the negativity. Tomorrow will be a better day.:)

Take Care
Laurie
 
thanks for the encouragement and its good to know i'm not alone. i'm debating whether or not to workout. i'm still pretty full and i seem to be wanting to do it to burn off some of the guilt. mabe a light workout would make me feel better.
 
Wow, this is a post that I could have written.

First of all, I wanted to say, don't beat yourself up! And mostly, don't skip your dinner tonight. Eat something healthy, like a salad, but don't skip it! Don't punish yourself. It sends the wrong message to your subconscious mind.

I don't want to hijack your thread and talk about myself, this is not about me, but I hope it will help you.

I was never a binge eater, never on a "diet" and I was never overweight. I weighed between 115 to 120 lbs at 5'7". I was a fairly healthy eater and exercised regularly. When I got pregnant with my first son, I gained about 45 to 50 lbs, I lost all of it within a couple of months. When I was pregnant with my second son, I had moved from Europe to the US and the OB/GYN thought I was gaining weight too fast, so I was sent to "nutritional counseling" with a clinical dietician.

Big mistake! HUGE! I was put on a low-fat diet and I stuck to that diet to a t. That's when my problems started, all over sudden I had uncontrollable hunger pangs resulting in binge eating. Went back to the nutrionist, they lowered my fat intake even more and it got even worse. I went from 125 lbs at the beginning of my pregnancy to 220 lbs. Obviously, I lost some with the birth of my son, but still ....

Tried to get the weight down with the help of a nutritionist at first, again, low-fat, low-calorie and exercise. It did help, some weight came off, the intial results made me stick to it even more religiously. No deviating from my plan. And then, all hell broke lose, hunger pangs and binge eating. I did the same thing that you describe, binge eating and then skip a meal - bad idea. It made things even worse. I couldn't control my eating with sheer will power anymore and my weight shot up to more than weighed after my son was born.

Then I started entering the vicious cycle of "fad diets". Atkins, The Zone, South Beach, Rotation, Fat Flush ...... you name it, I did it.

Long story short, all of those diets, after the initial weight loss (probably mainly water), did nothing than deplete my energy, so I kept falling off my exercise schedule and eventually gaining the weight back plus some. The only thing I never did was weightloss pills. In my desperation I even started smoking again, which I had quit years and years ago. I do think I was punishing myself and going on a downward spiral.

At my worst last year, my scale topped at over 250 lbs (I am sure I was in the 260s I just stopped stepping on the scale).

Last year I was totally fed up with myself, me, Ms. Health Conscious, Healthy Eater, Never Overweight and Religious Exerciser had turned into an obese slob who couldn't control her eating. Don't get me wrong, I had phases where I religiously stuck to my eating and exercise plan, no matter what, but those times got shorter and shorter and the binge eating kicked in more and more, and longer and longer and I kept punishing myself with skipping meals, fasting ..... I had even turned to alcohol, maybe because I did't want to face my reality anymore.

So last year, I drove a stake in the ground, Cathe workouts were no longer possible - try and do a Power 15 at 260 lbs :) So I decided walking would be good, I needed someone to keep me accountable and I got my dog (yeah, I know you guys will say, there she goes again with her wonder dogs :) ) I started walking 30 min twice a day. I think I can credit my dogs, however, to keep me accountable and starting me off on the right track and right state of mind and I don't think I could have done it without them. NO, I am not saying, get a Mini Aussie :)

Things didn't fall into place right away. I did lose some weight and the binge eating got less but I still had it. However, my state of mind changed, I knew I was doing something wrong with my diet and all the diets that the numerous "nutritionists" that I consulted suggested.


I looked back at the time when I was happy, healthy, trim and WITHOUT hunger pangs and I realized, I was eating differently back then. So I threw every fad diet and every nutritional advise that I had gotten over the last 7 years out the window and started eating like I did before.

I went back to adding - YES, GASP - fat in my diet. I no longer eat non-fat dairy (once in a while I do, if my total fat intake is a little too high), on average I eat about 60 to 70 g of fat a day - give or take. I eat lots of fresh veggies and fruit, and I do plan on cheating EVERY day, I don't do it every day, but I plan for it.

Meaning, if I have a craving for a spoon of Nutella (chocolate spread), I will eat it and feel terrific about it. I will no longer shuff carrots, celery, broccoli, a glass of skim milk (gag!) or low-fat crap in my mouth to keep me from eating what I really want and end up eating it anyway plus the additional calories that I took in before, and then end up not only with a spoonful but the whole goddamn thing, hating myself, eating even more crap. And then punish myself with not eating lunch or diner or both, or exercising until my tongue is dragging behind me on the floor, starting a whole new vicious cycle.

Every day, I plan on eating 6 meals - one being a cheating thing. Now I am at a point that I can eat a little bit of "bad" food and plan on it on a daily basis, but not end up eating it, because I don't feel like doing it or craving it - unheard of for me just a year ago.

I can't do whole "cheat days" because I am so wired "all or nothing", if I do a whole cheat day, I'll be falling off track, but the little bit every day, or every other day, works well for me.

I exercise 5 to 6 times a week, plus the daily walks with my dogs, I am not hungry and I do practice a little grace and forgiveness for myself for not being perfect. I think that is the major thing I learned. We are not perfect and trying to be perfect will end up in catastrophe - binge eating in our case.

So far I have lost at least 41 lbs ( remember, I stopped stepping on the scale at 252), 21 of them in the last 3 months and I rarely have any binge eating attacks anymore - I do have them the day before my period, but I plan for it and I am ok with it.

Sorry this was so much about me and my story, but I hope it helps you to see that you are not alone (I am sure you don't have as much weight to lose as I do, if you even have any weight to lose) and I hope my story helps you to practice a little forgiveness for yourself, because I sure don't want anyone to make the same mistakes I did.

We all always think it can never happen to us, and I was one of them! I have blasted obese people for the majority of my life. And now I am one of them. I have attacked people who don't have any "will power" and I sure look like I have no will power, don't I? Life works in mysterious ways sometimes and we are all here to learn a lesson or two. I am learning mine, and I hope I can pass on what I have learned. Sorry this was so long-winded.

My advise, forgive yourself and eat your dinner tonight!

Carola
 
I certainly have empathy for what you are going through. I have been there too and can relate to everything you said. Something is fueling your bingeing behaviors; maybe stress, anxiety or depression. For me, going back to see a therapist to deal with the underlying issues is the only way to get back on track. Hang in there, you are not alone ;)
 
this was a great post and thank you so much for sharing it. i think i have become obsessed with diet and nutrition plans and what matters most is calories and eating healthy most of the time. if i get hungry later i will eat. i think a workout will make me feel better but still on debate with that. your post has strong influence on me. thanks so much.
 
Hi Karie,

I agree with the others that say don't beat yourself up over it - you can only look forward, you can't change the past. I think we also need to accept that we're not perfect and whatever plan you stick to has to fit your lifestyle and has to make you happy - if it's a constant struggle that you don't enjoy, it's more likely you'll rebel.

One thing I have realized about myself is that if I go too low in carbs for a few days, then major cravings kick in until I'm all 'carbed up', then they go away. If I'm really careful about eating often and clean, with a moderate amount of healthy carbs (plus lean protein and good fats, of course), and remember to take my vitamins, then I seem to have way less cravings (at least no binge inducing ones!). This may not be your situation, but I thought I'd share as it's taken me quite a while to figure this out for me!:)

I'm also an all or nothing kind of person which used to mean if I fell off the plan I'd give up entirely (we're talking 20 years of yo-yo dieting). Once I really embraced the fact that healthy living is a forever thing, so it has to be something I can live with every day, I finally succeeded. It's not realistic for me to think I'll never have s'mores when I'm camping or birthday cake on my birthday or popcorn at the movies. Once I realized and accepted that I'll have good days and maybe some not so good days the guilt went away - after all, why should I feel guilty for living my life?? (Okay, maybe there's still some guilt, but mostly I laugh about it with my sister - we'll compare notes on who ate what.) It's certainly taken me longer to reach my goals (30+ pounds in 2 years), but I don't worry about going back to my old way of living because my new habits are so ingrained (and flexible). Best of all I'm healthy and happy - not perfect, but striving to be the best that I can be. (I know, it sounds cheesy, but it's so true.)

Good luck and try not to be so hard on yourself!
 
Ditto on the don't beat yourself up. I, too, have to be careful to not be too strict with myself or I end up binging myself. I also cannot count calories and become absorbed in exactly how much I eat vs. how much I workout. I'll be so good, then suddenly I'm eating the entire contents of the refrigerator. For me it's protein - I have to have enough protein or I'll become a victim of "Bottomless Pitt Syndrom". {{{HUGS}}} You're not alone!
 
well, i decided to do an upper body workout. i feel much better. i also really thought about what caused the binge onset. 1) forgot my morning snack so by lunch it had been 5 hrs since breakfast:not good! 2)didn't sleep well at all last night so i was tired 3) being too regimented. Also what i'm realizing is that i do much better doing 3 days of cardio and 3 days of weights on opposing days instead of doing everything combined. it just beats me up too much. i have been doing this trying to get in my last cardio session since i have rearranged my schedule to accomadate my family and fiance' on the weekends but i need to get back to doing saturday workouts instead. also, i usually workout first thing in the morning. it gets me going, sets my mood, makes me happy. today i didn't do that. i felt groggy all day which sucked! thanks everyone for your input. i like hearing all of your stories and knowing i'm not alone. i know this isn't going to make me gain weight but i just feel so crappy. and i already told myself if i get hungry later i will eat something. thanks;)
 
I agree with the wise words of so many of the other posters. We've all been there... and it's a total emotional roller coaster. Put the past behind you, and look ahead.
 
Hello kariev,

Thank you so much for posting this i have stared binge eating too and i feel excatly like you do im sick of counting my calories and bring food with me and always having to plan, and always following the plan and not just eating what i want i just want to be normal, but agian like you terrified of gaining to much weight.

I always end up binging when i have been to strict with myself or practically starved myself all day. I HATE being hugrey and it always turns out bad by the end of the day.

Something that i have found to help me is yoga, I have been trying to do a little every day even as little as 20 mins. It put stuff in prospective for me. Before i use to think that i could not be acceptable until i was in perfect shape, was active all the time and whatever else went with it. i had an image in my head that caused me more stress then anything and stress usually leads me to a binge. Yoga has taught me to accept me for me. Body mind and soul. That may sound stuiped but it is true for me. You have to learn to love yourself and then everything else just sort of works out.

Im sorry this is so long i just was so happy to see that someone else feels excatly like i do, I dont have many friends i can talk to so this felt good to just say it all.

Best of luck. I was wondering if you wanted to maybe start a check in for anyone interested, it might be nice to have people going though the same thing to talk.
Thanks for reading again sorry its so long!:)
 
Forgive yourself and forget girl!:) :) We have ALL been there, be it food, drinking, drugs, starving, too much exercise, etc...

Screw the diet books, and start listening to your body. Experiment with different foods. Go to a farmers market and buy fresh stuff. Enjoy what it feels like to eat these kinds of foods. I can say this, because I am going through the "Clean Eating" Challenge, and look at it as not really a challenge, but a "choice". A choice. That is soo different, than reading some diet book and trying to follow somebody else's "plan".

You have to find out what works for you, it takes time, and you have to experiment for a minute, but once you understand no food is really "off limits", its all about your choices--it takes the power away from those pop tarts.:) Plus it gives YOU the freedom to choose what you what is "worth it" and what is not.

Example of this sort of thinking-I don't have all the answers, but this is how I think anyway! We went out to dinner at a "fancy" place last weekend, they are known for their wonderful food. So I ate good stuff during the day and at dinner, splurged!:) Its easy once ya get the hang of it, serious. You are gonna be okay sweetie.
 
hi guys. today is a new day and i feel great even though i slept terrible last night due to all the carbs and sugar. i'm not as swollen as i expected to be b/c i drank a ton of water yesterday. i got hungry last night and had a salad with some chicken in it. my body actually craved that. guess it was sick of junk:) i got up this morning and did a 45 min run. felt great. had a good breakfast. i'm starting to think that i may do better doing 3 actually meals and do snacks inbetween if i get hungry instead. the whole 6 actual meals is driving me crazy and i feel unsatisfied after i eat them. thank you all so much for the support.
 
Kariev,

I like what Michelle said just a couple posts above: "You have to learn to love yourself and then everything else just sort of works out."

A lot of advice has been given re: exercise and diet. And, ultimately, you have to tune into your body and spirit and find what works for you in those areas. And, again, learning to love yourself, treating yourself with compassion, and willingness to know the truth behind the unhealthy behaviors are all key.

I'll go back to what I always advocate: Find a good therapist who specializes in disordered eating. You need that solid foundation to trust in the process of uncovering what's underlying the all-or-nothing eating behaviors. It's not the food, it's not the exercise, it's another truth that needs a little light, a little safety to open up slowly but surely.

Again, I strongly urge speaking to someone who's trained in caring for people who deal with disordered eating. In the meantime, some of my all-time favorite books:

Eating in the Light of the Moon - by Anita Johnston
Sensing the Self - by Sheila Reindl
Intuitive Eating - Tribole and Resch
And, anything by Geneen Roth....


Take care of yourself,
Caroline
 

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