Would soy protein hurt you or would whey protein be better?

[janiejoey]

Need help from the educated crowd out there,

This is my protein menu; lean chicken, egg whites, nf cottage cheese, seafood, rice and beans, and fish.

I am considering soy protein but I'm hearing conflicting information.

Sometimes just making a power drink would be a lazy way not to bother with food all the time. So would soy protein hurt you or would whey protein be better?

Tried searching with minimal luck,

Janie

"Whoo Hoo"
-Cathe Friedrich-

 

[kathryn]

I tend to avoid soy isolates and concentrates because of the conflicting info. But I eat soy FOODS.

Rather than just these two choices (soy vs. whey) there are others, superior, IMO.

HEMP protein powder, for example. It's a whole food, and contains both albumin and another form of protein that is very close to the structure of proteinn in the human body, and which is ONLY found in hemp. I put two scoops of it in my morning smoothie.

Pea and rice protein (combined, or pea only) are also good alternatives. I find them to be more digestible than soy, which I gave up several months ago.

 

[janiejoey]

Kathryn,

What is soy isolates and concentrates?

Where do you purchase HEMP protein powder and pea and rice protein? Health food store perhaps? At my health food store, I've never came across something like that.

I would love to have your recipe on the morning smoothie.

I ask these questions, because as I read the forums, you have a lot of knowledge to offer people. And I don't mind telling you that I benefit from that knowledge.

Thank you for being so informed,

Janie

 

[kathryn]

>What is soy isolates and concentrates?

They are the protein part of the soy, removed from the rest of the soy. It's very possible, IMO, that soy protein isolates/concentrates work differently from whole soy (in which the proteins have a synergistic relationship with other elements).

>Where do you purchase HEMP protein powder and pea and rice
>protein? Health food store perhaps? At my health food store,
>I've never came across something like that.

I get mine either at my health food store (they can perhaps order some Manitoba Harvest or Nutiva hemp protein powder) or by mail (www.veganessentials.com offers it, as well as a variety of pea, pea/rice and other protein powders).

>I would love to have your recipe on the morning smoothie.
>

The basic "recipe" is this (I just kind of throw it together, and it may vary a bit from day to day):

About 8 ounces pomegranate juice blend (all juice)

2 scoops hemp protein powder.

1 scoop Vegan COmplete protein powder (pea/rice and vitamiins/minerals) or pea protein powder or another non-soy protein powder.

About 1 Tbsp. maca root powder (maca is a root vegetable that grows in South America, and is an adaptogen; improving the immune system, helping the body adjust to stress, and supporting the thyroid).

About 1 Tbsp.+ "Mega flax joint" (ground flax with glucosamine and other joint support nutrients)

The "innards" of two "Vegan Joint Supreme" capusules.

The "innards" of two Blue mangosteen capsules (contains mangosteen: fruit, another adaptogen, as well as an anti inflammatory, and blue-green algae, which is also an adaptogen).

About 1 Tsp. Vitamineral Green supplement (that contains barley grass, wheat grass, spirulina, chlorella, and a bunch of other green foods)

Frozen berries (usually strawberries and dark cherries).

Aloe vera juice.

It ends up being about 35 gm. of protein. Good fats (omega 3 and omega 6). 450 calories or so. Full of antioxidants.

Since I started adding the green supplement, it's not as pretty as it used to be (kind of greyish/purple vs. the pretty red it used to be), but it tastes good to me (I may have gotten used to some of the things in it).

 

[janiejoey]

Kathryn,

Thank you so much for the wealth of info. I'll make sure to buy all the stuff needed for that yummy smoothie. And purchase the protiens you suggested.

What kind of soy foods do you eat?

If I have any more questions, would you mind if I e-mail you or leave a private message?

Thanks again,

Janie
"Whoo Hoo"
-Cathe Friedrich-

 

[kathryn]

>What kind of soy foods do you eat?

I don't eat that much soy anymore, but when I do, it's tofu, soymilk, tempeh (one of my favorites, nutritionally, and makes a nice mock-chicken-or-the-egg salad), black soy beans (in salads and soups), edamame.

>If I have any more questions, would you mind if I e-mail you
>or leave a private message?

I don't mind at all. PM is more apt to get me sooner (I don't check email from home because the system I have to use is kind of a pain, and I don't go iinto the office on weekends or Thursdays).

 

[kathryn]

>I'll make sure to
>buy all the stuff needed for that yummy smoothie. And
>purchase the protiens you suggested.
>

Another thought, Janie, you might not want to jump right into the 'final product,' but gradually add some of the more unique ingredients as your tastes change. Otherwise, this may not taste as good as it seems to me! It's a bit of an aquired taste!

Start with the juice, protein powder, flax and frozen fruits (or even just frozen fruits and enough water to process, omitting the juice). Then, after you get used to that, and find the mix you like, add some other ingredients, leaving the green supplement (the one most likely to throw the taste off) until later. (In the meantime, for the benefits of green supplements, you could take some chlorella pills. I use Chloressence, which I get from www.veganessentials.com and which is just whole chlorella--with the outer cell wall ruptured to make it more assimilable--pressed into pill form, no other additives at all).