Question for Maribeth re: B Rx

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Maribeth,

I have always enjoyed your posts and respect your educated input. So... what do you think of Body Rx? I have looked at it twice and thought about starting it.

I have read EVERY book out there.

Zone: lived it and breathed it!!! Works pretty good.
WWatchers: think it is great too!!
Plus so many others that are a bunch of "who-ha"

I really don't have a bunch to lose, just a little with a more muscle and toning to do. I want to tighten and lose about 5-8 pounds. What is your opinion?

Anyone elso too would be great.
Thanks, Sharon
 
I can already hear Maribeth..."Calories in, Calories out...". LOL!!!

I like the Body Rx program. I think its basic nutritional guidelines are pretty good. However, I do think they give you a very high protein requirement. Most people have a hard time reaching this so as another poster said, they kind of expected that, that is why they made it so high..so that you would get close. Other than that..

Calories in, Calories out...


Janice
 
Have you ever stopped to check your calorie count Janice w/BRX? I have and while I eat plenty and never get hungry, I find my calories are much higher than I used to eat! But all I have to do is look in the mirror to see that these calories must be going 'out' because I'm not gaining a bit of weight, just the opposite. Viva Dr. Connelly! :)
 
Mindi..

Probably to my detriment Mindi, I never count calories. I know alot about food though so with a glance I can estimate calories. That is pretty much what I do. Plus, I don't eat all the snacks and things most people eat between meals so that makes it easier for me. If I have an excess in calories, beleive me, I know where it came from!!(peanut butter and ice cream!:)

I have literally stayed the same weight, maybe 3 pounds heavier total, since adding Cathe. I am very positive that my lean weight has gone up..I can grab less fat in my midsection and it does feel like my muscles have grown.

But you are right. Body Rx allows many calories but I did not see any gain either. HOWEVER, when I am 100% following that it is much harder to squeeze in my ice cream and peanut butter!! So, that is probably more of what is accounting for the calorie difference. And less total fat intake. And the fact that I never cut out cardio.

I am anxiously awaiting Maribeth's take on this one.

Janice
 
Janice try eating Healthy Choice No Sugar Added Ice Cream or a similar version and choose natural peanut butter. I enjoy both now and then!
 
Don't worry. I ALWAYS make sure I get low fat ice cream to go with the high fat natural peanut butter (OH, how our minds work). Sometimes I am even EXTRA bad and I get chocolate chips to put on it!!OH NO!!! Thanks for the tip....

Janice
 
Hey a little trick?? Add some Fiber1 to your ice cream...makes it crunchy and very tasty! And that extra fiber helps wash that fat out! :)
 
Maribeth:
Bumping, but also a quick description of BodyRx's program. The author (A. Scott Connelly, MD) states that the health (cardiovascular) benefits of cardio exercise can be achieved with intense strength training alone.

He then goes on to lay out a 4-day split in 4 "cycles." The first cycle is 3 sets, 6 reps, as heavy as you can lift for 4 to 6 reps, and from there the cycles increase reps up to 20, and vary in numbers of sets.

Each week:

day 1 chest, biceps
day 2 back, tri
day 3 Legs
day 4 shoulders and abs

There are only 4 days. You can do cardio if you want, he says, but it's not essential.

He also lays out a food plan which has "red" (no)
"yellow" ( limit your intake)
and "green" (eat all you want) of each macronutrient.

It is cleverly thought out and seems well documented. One thing that bothers people is what he says about cardio (Mindi has the exact quote) and we'd like to know if you have anything to add to or refute about this, in other words, to defend cardio...and any other items you think are missing or well written about this book.
 
Glad you posted this! I just started Body Rx two days ago. SO weird to eat all this and not count calories.

I can't believe the protein requirement. Wow! I keep wondering if it's healthy to consume that much protein. It just seems like SO much. Will it have any long term effect on the kidneys? What about my bones? Does Dr. Connelly have any REAL proof that it doesn't cause any harm?

I'll try it for six weeks. But I have to wonder if this is a cosmetic program, designed to make you look good and sacrificing internal health for the benefit?

I want it to work. I guess I'm looking for reassurance. It just feels so radical.

Julie
 
Hey Connie,
I'm not Maribeth, or an exercise physiologist, and I have not read BodyRX. I am a nurse, though, and I've studied exercise science as a hobby for a while. I find it strange that the author would recommend starting out with a strength cycle and split the body parts up like that. Here's why: when you first begin a strength training program, you re basically building a foundation on which you will later sculpt and define. Kind of like building a house- you don't start with decorating the master bedroom, you've got to build the foundation. It takes some time to build up the strength and integrity of the supporting structures as well, tendons and ligaments and such. Usually you begin with full body conditioning three days a week, 1-2 exercises per body part and progress from there to upper body/lower body days, 3-4 day split, etc...

If you begin up front by lifting as much as you possibly can, I think you would be at tremendous risk for injury since your muscular strength may surpass your bodies ability to support that weight once you've lifted it. I know that's not a very technical explanation, maybe someone else can expand. I just felt I had to pose this question so that someone doesn't seriously hurt themselves.

FitnessRN
 
RE: Question for Maribeth re: B Rx--Maribeth Here

Hey, Guys!
Just saw this post. Tell ya the truth, I'm not familiar with the Body Rx program. If it is high in protein, the thermic effect is what will allow you to eat more without gaining. The higher thermic effect of protein equates to more calories out without changing a thing other than the composition of your diet, therefore if your caloric intake stays the same, you will see a loss of body fat on higher protein diets.

Again, this is not an endorsement for high protein diets at all, but instead, the science behind what happens. Most high protein diets are impossible for the average person to stay on for extended periods--they also result in decreased performance when it comes to training if they are very low in carbs.

As for the contention that intense strength training strengthens the heart, yes, anything that causes the heart to pump more blood and pump it faster over a period of time can result in a stronger heart. But, there is still a place and time for cardio training, as well as benefits afforded by it that don't necessarily come to the same degree with strength training.

How much of each is more a matter of individual body types and goals than a hard and fast rule. Typically I tell people that if you have limited time, make strength training your priority because in most cases, the overall benefits are greater.

And FitnessRN is right--for several reasons, a newbie to resistance training should start with full body workouts on three alternate days per week. As fitness levels increase, the person progresses to split routines, separating body parts into different training days.

Tell me about the specfics of the Body Rx diet.
Maribeth
 
RE: Question for Maribeth re: B Rx--Maribeth Here

Hi Maribeth!
The specifics (if I were specific enough, I'd restate the whole book! So I'll try to condense it) are that there are daily quotas for protein and for fiber, and a daily ceiling for starchy carbs. The author divides each macronutrient into green, yellow, and red. Green proteins are proteins you can eat as much as you want. Yellow means caution, red means eat it once a year or so. Like a traffic light. Fats are included too.

Yellow carbs are, for example, corn, sourdough bread, white potatoes-- i.e. starchy carbs. Green carbs on the other hand are fiber-containing, such as apples, Fiber One cereal, and green peppers. Yellow carbs are okay, according to the author, just up to a certain daily limit which he specifies in his book.

It's actually a great way to quickly categorize foods and a great way to stimulate creative juices for the art of meal planning. It's a nice organized way to eat right and still get full and satisfied on a daily basis.

The author says exactly the same thing you do about the relative benefits of strength training: if you have limited time, go for strength.

For my own application, though, what is "limited time?" I have one hour five days a week. I am doing his heavy four day split and loving it (it's something new!) and only one day of cardio and loving that as well.

He says "You can do cardio if you like it, it's just not necessary for the program." His program was designed to make participants lose fat and build muscle.

His background is as an MD with extensive experience treating dying patients- people dying of muscle wasting syndrome, when their illness has been solved but their body is shuntng all their food intake to fat storage and starving the muscles. He figured out a way to outsmart this syndrome and save many lives. He also formulated the original "MetRx" product (whatever it is- a protein powder or liquid?)

I find his take, after reading Body for Life and about seven other similar books, that organize the raw data, to be an interesting addition.

But I wonder more about cardio and how much time is "limited" time. The rest of my life is not too active- I don't own a stable so there's no mucking out stalls or anything! I'm a dental hygienist and taking 18 x-rays on someone, running in and out of the room to take them is about as athletic as my job gets. The rest of it is a lot of static holds, like vertical plank work, lol. There's a little yard work.

I guess I'm wondering if I haven't been overdoing cardio all along, or if my body is ready for a spell of putting on some serious muscle, then returning to a more balanced rotation.

Thanks for reading this whole darned post.
 
Hi FitnessRN!
I never thought about beginners to strength training without full-body workouts behind them. I have only though about myself, and I have built a foundation and the 4-day split feels comfortable to me at this time. I wouldn't want to stay with it forever though. For one thing, I'd miss Cathe, and for another, it'd be boring!

The author does address the safety issue thoroughly and does not advise home or free weight lifting for beginners. He advises warm-up sets and gym machines. The book is a really quick read- you could probably get the whole gist of it in an hour or in 30 minutes at a Borders or Barnes and Noble store.
 
If you have any questions regarding the program, how it works, the nutrition or the workouts, the author, Dr. Scott Connelly, has a question and answer board on http://groups.msn.com/BodyRXVillage. Please feel free to stop by and ask the Dr. to address any concerns you may have.
 

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