over a guy---need confidence boost

Jasmin416

Cathlete
I don't know what's wrong with me lately...I totally fell hard over a guy and haven't felt this way for a long time. As most know, my cat Jasmin is still missing. When I was hanging out with this guy last week he made a comment when I said I wanted to see Marley and Me. He said "Well, originally it was called Jasmin and me but the cat ran away so they got a dog to play the part instead and called it Marley and Me". He kept running with the joke. I took offense to this comment and told him I thought it was insensitive considering all that he knew I was trying to do to get her back. He then went into the fact that it was just a "joke" and although he liked cats, its just a cat. I got angry more and then told him of which he apologized after the fact. But, the next day I was still angry over it and mentioned it again when he felt I was being aloof over email. He said it was "just a joke" and apparently I was sensitive to it and apologized. Finally I just dropped it and moved on. Now this guy has been slowly contacting me less, never asked to see me this past weekend and I feel heartbroken. I am going to say something this evening because we have a huge function to attend together with my friends this Saturday and I want to know prior if this just isn't going to work. I feel like I can't believe I've allowed a guy to make me feel so poorly everyday lately and I cry over this and I'm so disappointed over this whole situation. Someone please knock some sense into me, but be kind because I'm already feeling low. I can't believe I fell for a guy so hard like this. Where has all my confidence gone?
 
I'm sorry that you are taking this so hard, but you are probably very sensitive emotionally right now because of your missing cat.

This guy seems a bit insensitive and not worth crying over, but that's easy for me to say.

Hugs to you!
 
I'm sorry you're hurting. This guy sounds like an insensitive jerk, however. The words "just a cat" really trivializes your feelings and who needs that? You're feeling vulnerable right now and this moron made a joke out of it. The "silver lining" about it I guess is that if he thinks it is okay to dismiss your feelings, better off finding that out now before you get involved with him any further. You deserve better than that.

My DH told me after the fact that he was really worried that my cats would not like him and that would be that. He realized that they are part of my family and wanted to "fit in" with all of us. There's no way he would have been dismissive of my feelings for my companions. So there ARE "good guys" out there for you and that one is NOT one of them.
 
My mom says not to have a conversation with him at all and just assume he is into to this until he says otherwise. I think I just need to start dating again especially since I saw he was active on the dating site in the last 24 hours.
 
Jasmin - Is this the same guy you were dating a week ago who wasn't calling you back when he said he would and you have a upcoming trip planned with? Or is this a different guy? Or am I getting you confused with a different poster? It's hard not to get defensive when our fur babies are concerned. If you really do like this guy though and think there was "something" there, you probably need to call him and talk it out. It's hard to know whether you over reacted a tad to a innocent joke (guys can be a little dense sometimes - mine keeps threatening to ship my wienies off to the SPCA) or whether he was just being a total arse. It also sounds like you continued to be angry even after he apologized though and that's probably why he is being aloof. If it's worth saving, you're probably going to have to make the first move.
 
It's hard to know whether you over reacted a tad to a innocent joke (guys can be a little dense sometimes - mine keeps threatening to ship my wienies off to the SPCA) or whether he was just being a total arse.

ITA!

Liann, you're husband sounds like mine. My boxers are getting up in age as the vet bills are becoming more frequent. Just dealing with age matters etc. DH complains about the vet bills and well, threatens to dig a hole. :eek:
Now, before anyone gets mad and jumps all over my DH....he LOVES our boxers as much as me. He has a sick sense of humor. He kisses them every morning before he leaves for work. I wish I could say I get a kiss every morning, but I would be lying:rolleyes:

I wanted to clarify...the sick sense of humor. He means it to be funny, it just comes out a bit warped. Not meaning it at all. My beefcake hubby baby talks to our boxers.
 
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Yes, this is the same guy who didn't call a couple times when he said he would. I would just kind of like to know where I stand before this party comes up but I guess I will know anyway...one way or the other. If only I wasn't so stressed over this cat...ugh!
 
Jasmin,

I'm very sorry your cat is missing.:(
IMO, if this guy was the right person for you, nothing would or could change that.
My father died in the beginning of my relationship with my husband. I was a complete train wreck and fell apart over every little thing. It's been 28 years, and we are still together.
 
Yes, this is the same guy who didn't call a couple times when he said he would. I would just kind of like to know where I stand before this party comes up but I guess I will know anyway...one way or the other. If only I wasn't so stressed over this cat...ugh!

I had a situation similar to this with the last guy I dated before getting hooked up with my DH. Things had been kind of iffy for about a week and we were scheduled to go to his friend's wedding that he was a groomsmen in. We weren't officially "broke-up", but we were pretty darn close. In this case, it was because I just "wasn't that in to him". Anyways, we delayed the "talk" and went to that wedding together. OMG, it was AWFUL!!!! Especially, being at a wedding and having them want to take pictures of us together etc... I have never been so uncomfortable in my life and I did end up breaking up with him officially right after that. Hopefully, you guys can talk this out beforehand and go to this party with things all peachy instead of tense. It's not fun having all that awkwardness hanging over you!
 
Ehhhh....some people don't get the way others get attached to pets. Maybe he thought you had enough time grieving for your cat and laughing about it might help you get over it. He may have been active on the website because he thought you were blowing him off. Maybe he was just looking because he was bored. Personally, I'll sometimes go look at my matches just for a laugh...but I have absolutely no interest in dating someone other than my BF. Don't leave these things to assumptions and guesswork....if you can't ask him, then you shouldn't be dating him.
 
sorry so long, but I can relate

I don't know what's wrong with me lately...I totally fell hard over a guy and haven't felt this way for a long time. As most know, my cat Jasmin is still missing. When I was hanging out with this guy last week he made a comment when I said I wanted to see Marley and Me. He said "Well, originally it was called Jasmin and me but the cat ran away so they got a dog to play the part instead and called it Marley and Me". He kept running with the joke. I took offense to this comment and told him I thought it was insensitive considering all that he knew I was trying to do to get her back. He then went into the fact that it was just a "joke" and although he liked cats, its just a cat. I got angry more and then told him of which he apologized after the fact. But, the next day I was still angry over it and mentioned it again when he felt I was being aloof over email. He said it was "just a joke" and apparently I was sensitive to it and apologized. Finally I just dropped it and moved on. Now this guy has been slowly contacting me less, never asked to see me this past weekend and I feel heartbroken. I am going to say something this evening because we have a huge function to attend together with my friends this Saturday and I want to know prior if this just isn't going to work. I feel like I can't believe I've allowed a guy to make me feel so poorly everyday lately and I cry over this and I'm so disappointed over this whole situation. Someone please knock some sense into me, but be kind because I'm already feeling low. I can't believe I fell for a guy so hard like this. Where has all my confidence gone?

Hi,

I posted before when you were concerned over the lack of calling. I am sorry your cat has gone missing. I have a dog and I would be very upset if he ran away too. I hope Jasmin comes back soon.

It is ok that you fell for him. You liked him and that is what happens. However, I think he is showing you some parts of himself that conflict with your comfort zone. I call this a boundary violation. Regardless of your reaction to whatever he said, you have a right to your feelings and he needs to respect that. Based on this post and the last post about the phone calls, I get the impression that this guy does not have that much concern or respect for your time. I don't believe in overreactions per se. Your feelings, although intense, are just as valid as anyone elses. The trick is communicating them in an effective way to the other person. It is hard to do in the heat of the moment when most people tend to be reactionary instead of intentional in their communication.

A good response to this boundary violation is "hey, I know you are trying to make me feel better by making a joke and I appreciate that, but I am really upset right now and it would be great of you could [fill in here what he could do to make you feel better]. I think he was trying to lighten the mood. Men like to feel as though they are good providers. They like to feel strong and one way for them to feel strong is to look out for the woman. I know that is neanderthal-ish, but that is just the way they are. They are not sensitive like women so it is up to us to clearly state what it is we want and how they can give it to us. They cannot read minds or feelings. You have been seeing him for one month so he really has no clue on the inner workings and nuances of you, but it sounds like he might want to find out. He just needs your help and you need to communicate it to him. I think that will also help you get some confidence back since it clearly states boundaries as well. If he cannot step up to the plate, then move on otherwise you wil waste your time.

This takes practice. I have been working on this for myself as well and I feel so much better about myself since I have been putting intentional communication into practice.

I would contact him and apologise. It would open the door for some dialogue and you can learn somethings about him: for instance, can he handle these kind of conversations in the future? Can he have an "us talk"? Is he comfortable with talking to you about issues? (There will be more issues as you guys get to know each other.)That us talk is the only way you are ever going to know where you stand too.

I would say "Hey, I am sorry for my reaction to your joke. I know you were not trying to hurt my feelings. That being said, I am sensitive to the fact that Jasmin is missing and I am worried about it. However, I just wanted to apologise for my reaction. I have had a few things on my mind and perhaps it is a good time for me to get them out. I need to know where I stand with you as far as dating." Or whatever you need to know about the situation you are in at the moment.

That should open up some dialogue. I think the bigger issue here is that you really like this guy and you don't know how he feels. Unless you ask him, you are going to drive yourself nuts. If you have that conversation with him, you will gain confidence. Even if you don't get the answer you want, which is always a risk, you will have challenged yourself to ask. At least you will know and be able to move forward with him or move on with your life.

Good luck and keep me posted!
 
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That was great advice thanks. I actually did apologize for overreacting to the joke and at the same time told him I did not get a job I had interview for which required me to move further away. Anyhow, he told me not to worry about it at all and that he didn't want me to move anyway. Feeling better about this now.
 
he is just really insensitive

As jokes go, that wasn't funny. I'm not so sure this is the guy for you because none of the nice guys I know would say its just a cat. Yikes. Also, one thing you may or may not know is that guys don't continue to experience pain/anxiety over arguments in the same way that we do. Girls and women continue to experience physical symptoms of distress for about two days after a minor argument and you are already feeling sad. I get how you feel but he may not understand that we literally feel more pain over a longer period of time, its not craziness its physiology. If you decide to stay with this guy I really hope that his attitude about animals changes. There was a period of about 2 weeks when we first had our cat Maria and she was just missing. We had only had her for a few days and I was just distraught. I wasn't sleeping or eating or anything. I just kept looking. He may not understand about furbabies.
 
btw

I didn't mean you had to break up or anything. I read some of the other posts and I think that some of the level headed advice is a good idea.
 
As jokes go, that wasn't funny. I'm not so sure this is the guy for you because none of the nice guys I know would say its just a cat.

Sometimes people change. Believe it or not, I was NOT a dog person 8 years ago. I wouldn't have it in my house. We had friends who built a new home and their dog chewed on the wood trim in their new home. I couldn't believe anyone would allow an animal to do that. After all it was "just" a dog.

My son begged me for a boxer and in a weak moment I agreed. I struggled with the new addition. In all honesty, I had planned to make this dog an "outside dog". I really didn't want it in my house.
I was at my wits end with our new boxer pup, ready to give her away to someone in my husband's office. She loved boxers and I knew she would take the dog. The woman suggested I take the dog to puppy class. I was smart enough to listen. I thought dog class would teach my dog how to behave. LOL! It taught me how to be a responsible dog owner and I bonded with my boxer. She was no longer "just a dog".
8 years later, and a another boxer in the family.....I qualify for one of those crazy dog people bumper stickers.
My dogs lay on all my furniture, sleep in bed with me, and I have a few chewed pieces of wood trim from when my boy was a pup:D

My point to the story is you really should never give up on people. People have a tremendous capacity for change. Sometimes it takes one person to help another see something in a different light.
 
As jokes go, that wasn't funny. I'm not so sure this is the guy for you because none of the nice guys I know would say its just a cat.
I agree.

This is someone who does not see the value of your pet, but also doesn't respect your feelings towards your pet.

People who care about us, even if they don't care that much about our pets, try to understand and empathize with our feelings for those we love, whatever their species may be.

Case in point: a friend of mine had a dog who was very sick and at the vets. Another friend, who isn't into pets, but tolerates them, prayed for the dog, because he knew he meant so much to the woman.
 
I agree.

This is someone who does not see the value of your pet, but also doesn't respect your feelings towards your pet.

That was my point exactly. It isn't about your cat, it's about respecting and valuing your FEELINGS about your cat/dog/mother/friend.

I would try to get to the heart of this guy to find out if he was just uncomfortable and said something lame since he didn't know what else to say or if he really is dismissive of your feelings. If he doesn't "get it" after this conversation then that would not be the person for me, at least. There is no way that I would have any expectation that he would change his attitude based on anything that I could say to him, change only comes from within. The courts are littered with people who expected a spouse to change and then couldn't handle it when they didn't. :)
 
Thanks for all the advice ladies. In an email from him he told me that he is an animal lover and would never want for my cat to be lost and he had been asking repeatedly prior to this incident if I found the cat and even suggested I get a friendly animal trap. I think it was a bad joke and I am definitely aware of how he was dismissive towards my feelings at first but then apologized. It is food for thought. Since this is new I am going to give it more time to understand this guy.

However, don't think for a minute that I didn't accept a date with someone else this week just to get my focus off this guy. Feeling much better now.
 
That was my point exactly. It isn't about your cat, it's about respecting and valuing your FEELINGS about your cat/dog/mother/friend.

I would try to get to the heart of this guy to find out if he was just uncomfortable and said something lame since he didn't know what else to say or if he really is dismissive of your feelings. If he doesn't "get it" after this conversation then that would not be the person for me, at least. There is no way that I would have any expectation that he would change his attitude based on anything that I could say to him, change only comes from within. The courts are littered with people who expected a spouse to change and then couldn't handle it when they didn't. :)

Very well put.
To clarify my post about people changing. People who do not love animals as most of us do here, are not bad people.
I do not consider myself a bad person before I understood what it meant to love an animal like a family member. I was completely unaware.
I don't know, but I think there could have been moments I was insensitive to someone's feelings about a pet and didn't realize it.
Being unaware of something doesn't make you a bad person.
 
Very well put.
To clarify my post about people changing. People who do not love animals as most of us do here, are not bad people.
I do not consider myself a bad person before I understood what it meant to love an animal like a family member. I was completely unaware.
I don't know, but I think there could have been moments I was insensitive to someone's feelings about a pet and didn't realize it.
Being unaware of something doesn't make you a bad person.

ITA. Not to mention people are just people and say stupid things sometimes. I think we are way too quick to read into every little thing as "this person isn't respecting my feelings as a person because he said one insensitive thing about my precious fluffy". Giving out advice like (and this is just an example, not a quote) "If he doesn't understand your love for your animals, he's not worth it", etc... is dangerous advice. What do any of us really know about a personal situation from reading a post from only one side of the situation. When I first brought home Dakota, my DH HATED him. Literally, I thought the marriage was over because I had brought this puppy into our home. I can't tell you how many times he threatened to take him back or give him away. Fast forward 5 years and there is no doubt in my mind that my DH would throw himself in front of a car for that big wienie. People do change. You can't just chuck them to the curb the first time they say something insensitive. That's just not real life. Sounds like your talk went well. Sometimes, both parties just need to cool down before they can talk something out reasonably. Hopefully, you guys have an awesome time at that party! ;)
 

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