OPEN DISCUSSION
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kathryn
Cathlete
>Do you think as a group, we could come to a consensus on what
>topics which are okay and what topics are a no-no or do you
>think that is for Cathe to decide?
>
I think that defeats the purpose of an "open forum." And I don't think we have the right to be the "forum police."
If we all just remember that this forum can be visited by anyone, of any age, common sense and courtesy should be enough for us to "police" ourselves.
>topics which are okay and what topics are a no-no or do you
>think that is for Cathe to decide?
>
I think that defeats the purpose of an "open forum." And I don't think we have the right to be the "forum police."
If we all just remember that this forum can be visited by anyone, of any age, common sense and courtesy should be enough for us to "police" ourselves.
I agree with Kathryn. With new members comming and going,it would be hard to decide what we can talk about and what we can't. Its only recently that its been this way so I think if we all went back to the way we were, we will be o.k. I think since Cathe as been on FitTv,our well kept secret isn't a secret anymore.Lots of different names.
Lori
Lori
Timber99
Cathlete
I think the reason why Cathe rarely posts on Open Discussion is that, for the most part, she doesn't care what is here! She seems to leave it open for people to chit chat and post and talk about what they please. People have come to know each other and trust each other here, for more than just fitness topics, and it is a good place for advice from a rather intelligent, varied group of individuals! I've been here for several years and I only remember one post here from here - that is the one this week.In fact, I would be willing to bet that she was only alerted to the board by dissatisfied members this past week.
Candi - this is not directed at you or your post (so please don't take personal offense b/c I REALLY don't mean it that way), but I think that the threads about dissatisfaction w/other members, topics, etc. ha gone WAY TOO far on this site this week. I have been wondering where I wanted to post my opinion (which is that this is getting ridiculous!) and here it is.
IMHO, if a topic subject annoys you, don't enter the thread. If you get in there and then don't like a thread, pop out of it, don't respond and ignore it. If ther eare young people on here, it is not Cathe's responsibilty to make sure what they are reading is appropriate. It is their parent's responsibility. I can't see why someone would continue to read a thread about sex if they find it in appropriate to discuss sex on this forum. When I read a post that I dont find interesting, annoying, offensive (rare, but it happens), gossipy, etc., I just pop out of it. I don't see why that canot be the common response.
I don't think that Cathe *wants* to prescribe rules for this board. I don't think she wants to police people. Just my opinion, but I think that she has provided a place for her members to group up and chat. About anything. I don't think that *we* need to make rules. I think that we need to realize that everyone has different opinions, interests, places in life, etc. and that with mutual respect, we can all get along here.
But I wish that at some point, we can have some laughs, good disussions and lighthearted conversation instead of battling right v. wrong, PC v. offensive, etc.
Christine
Candi - this is not directed at you or your post (so please don't take personal offense b/c I REALLY don't mean it that way), but I think that the threads about dissatisfaction w/other members, topics, etc. ha gone WAY TOO far on this site this week. I have been wondering where I wanted to post my opinion (which is that this is getting ridiculous!) and here it is.
IMHO, if a topic subject annoys you, don't enter the thread. If you get in there and then don't like a thread, pop out of it, don't respond and ignore it. If ther eare young people on here, it is not Cathe's responsibilty to make sure what they are reading is appropriate. It is their parent's responsibility. I can't see why someone would continue to read a thread about sex if they find it in appropriate to discuss sex on this forum. When I read a post that I dont find interesting, annoying, offensive (rare, but it happens), gossipy, etc., I just pop out of it. I don't see why that canot be the common response.
I don't think that Cathe *wants* to prescribe rules for this board. I don't think she wants to police people. Just my opinion, but I think that she has provided a place for her members to group up and chat. About anything. I don't think that *we* need to make rules. I think that we need to realize that everyone has different opinions, interests, places in life, etc. and that with mutual respect, we can all get along here.
But I wish that at some point, we can have some laughs, good disussions and lighthearted conversation instead of battling right v. wrong, PC v. offensive, etc.
Christine
I agree Kathryn. It is an open forum & what makes it so much fun is we can talk about almost anything. As Candi pointed out before, what might be offensive is entirely subjective, but I think generally we're smart women & we know where to draw the line.
I would really hate to see us limit ourselves. I don't want to get nervous every time I post something non-fitness related. I say go ahead & be yourself. The openness of this board is one of the things that makes it unique & welcoming to so-called "newbies." We've kind of created our own little Cathe-driven community, I think it's warm & friendly, & it would be sad if it became dry & unpersonal.
Just my two cents........
I would really hate to see us limit ourselves. I don't want to get nervous every time I post something non-fitness related. I say go ahead & be yourself. The openness of this board is one of the things that makes it unique & welcoming to so-called "newbies." We've kind of created our own little Cathe-driven community, I think it's warm & friendly, & it would be sad if it became dry & unpersonal.
Just my two cents........
wendymin72
Cathlete
IMO, just take a moment to think about the topic you wish to post about...if you have ANY doubt as to wether it would be acceptable then maybe don't post it just to be safe. A way to gauge it is to ask yourself if what you are about to post would be acceptable for a younger person to read? If so, than it is an acceptable topic...
I participated in and enjoyed the "bad" threads personally, but can now totally understand why they would be frowned upon here.
Have a great work out!
~Wendy~
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I participated in and enjoyed the "bad" threads personally, but can now totally understand why they would be frowned upon here.
Have a great work out!
~Wendy~
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Candi,
I totally get what you are saying. Although we all seem to be educated and reasonable people, what offends one person may not bother another. On some other boards I visit, there are disclaimers along the lines of "Please do not post anything with vulgar language or pertaining to ____." On one hand, I think it kind of stinks that such a thing even needs to be posted. On the other hand, considering the wide array of differences that exist, it isn't such a bad idea. I do think that this would be up to Cathe, though.
I totally get what you are saying. Although we all seem to be educated and reasonable people, what offends one person may not bother another. On some other boards I visit, there are disclaimers along the lines of "Please do not post anything with vulgar language or pertaining to ____." On one hand, I think it kind of stinks that such a thing even needs to be posted. On the other hand, considering the wide array of differences that exist, it isn't such a bad idea. I do think that this would be up to Cathe, though.
candi
Cathlete
Kathryn, Lori, Christine, Maximus (B-day girl), Wendy and Gina:
Thank you for your comments. I certainly don't want to be the Post Police either but don't want to offend. I am liberal in my thinking but truly don't set out to offend others by my words.
I so enjoy coming here and talking with everyone during my workday. My job is sort of tedious and stressful at times and I've found this website to be a good place to discuss topics of interest and relax and have a giggle or two.
I'll just trust my own judgment
:7
Thank you for your comments. I certainly don't want to be the Post Police either but don't want to offend. I am liberal in my thinking but truly don't set out to offend others by my words.
I so enjoy coming here and talking with everyone during my workday. My job is sort of tedious and stressful at times and I've found this website to be a good place to discuss topics of interest and relax and have a giggle or two.
I'll just trust my own judgment
:7
candi
Cathlete
Kathryn, Lori, Christine, Maximus (B-day girl), Wendy and Gina:
Thank you for your comments. I certainly don't want to be the Post Police either but don't want to offend. I am liberal in my thinking but truly don't set out to offend others by my words.
I so enjoy coming here and talking with everyone during my workday. My job is sort of tedious and stressful at times and I've found this website to be a good place to discuss topics of interest and relax and have a giggle or two.
I'll just trust my own judgment :7
Thank you for your comments. I certainly don't want to be the Post Police either but don't want to offend. I am liberal in my thinking but truly don't set out to offend others by my words.
I so enjoy coming here and talking with everyone during my workday. My job is sort of tedious and stressful at times and I've found this website to be a good place to discuss topics of interest and relax and have a giggle or two.
I'll just trust my own judgment
:7
Timber99
Cathlete
>
>I so enjoy coming here and talking with everyone during my
>workday. My job is sort of tedious and stressful at times
>and I've found this website to be a good place to discuss
>topics of interest and relax and have a giggle or two.
I hear you! I pop in here abou once an hour just for a quick looksie and almost always to ease the tension It's nice to read things other than work things and have a good giggle throughout the day!
>I so enjoy coming here and talking with everyone during my
>workday. My job is sort of tedious and stressful at times
>and I've found this website to be a good place to discuss
>topics of interest and relax and have a giggle or two.
I hear you! I pop in here abou once an hour just for a quick looksie and almost always to ease the tension
It's nice to read things other than work things and have a good giggle throughout the day!
Timber99
Cathlete
>
>I so enjoy coming here and talking with everyone during my
>workday. My job is sort of tedious and stressful at times
>and I've found this website to be a good place to discuss
>topics of interest and relax and have a giggle or two.
I hear you! I pop in here abou once an hour just for a quick looksie and almost always to ease the tension It's nice to read things other than work things and have a good giggle throughout the day!
>I so enjoy coming here and talking with everyone during my
>workday. My job is sort of tedious and stressful at times
>and I've found this website to be a good place to discuss
>topics of interest and relax and have a giggle or two.
I hear you! I pop in here abou once an hour just for a quick looksie and almost always to ease the tension
It's nice to read things other than work things and have a good giggle throughout the day!>I think that the threads about dissatisfaction
>w/other members, topics, etc. ha gone WAY TOO far on this site
>this week.
I've been getting this vibe -- way before Cathe deleted 2 threads -- of resistance and disquiet regarding the membership in this forum suddenly increasing, bringing in new names, personalities, opinions and ways of expressing such opinions. There was a post I read recently in which someone expressed this longing for the way the Cathe forum once was, before all these new characters stepped in.
And this makes me uncomfortable. Because I was once new to the forum, too.
I did notice the change. So I changed my lurking and surfing habits. I quit coming to the Open Discussion first and started off at the DVD comments place, where there are more workout- and fitness-related threads. Like Christine said, if you don't like the thread, don't enter it, don't respond. And I also agree with Kathryn. We can't be forum police.
Pinky
>w/other members, topics, etc. ha gone WAY TOO far on this site
>this week.
I've been getting this vibe -- way before Cathe deleted 2 threads -- of resistance and disquiet regarding the membership in this forum suddenly increasing, bringing in new names, personalities, opinions and ways of expressing such opinions. There was a post I read recently in which someone expressed this longing for the way the Cathe forum once was, before all these new characters stepped in.
And this makes me uncomfortable. Because I was once new to the forum, too.
I did notice the change. So I changed my lurking and surfing habits. I quit coming to the Open Discussion first and started off at the DVD comments place, where there are more workout- and fitness-related threads. Like Christine said, if you don't like the thread, don't enter it, don't respond. And I also agree with Kathryn. We can't be forum police.
Pinky
>I think that the threads about dissatisfaction
>w/other members, topics, etc. ha gone WAY TOO far on this site
>this week.
I've been getting this vibe -- way before Cathe deleted 2 threads -- of resistance and disquiet regarding the membership in this forum suddenly increasing, bringing in new names, personalities, opinions and ways of expressing such opinions. There was a post I read recently in which someone expressed this longing for the way the Cathe forum once was, before all these new characters stepped in.
And this makes me uncomfortable. Because I was once new to the forum, too.
I did notice the change. So I changed my lurking and surfing habits. I quit coming to the Open Discussion first and started off at the DVD comments place, where there are more workout- and fitness-related threads. Like Christine said, if you don't like the thread, don't enter it, don't respond. And I also agree with Kathryn. We can't be forum police.
Pinky
>w/other members, topics, etc. ha gone WAY TOO far on this site
>this week.
I've been getting this vibe -- way before Cathe deleted 2 threads -- of resistance and disquiet regarding the membership in this forum suddenly increasing, bringing in new names, personalities, opinions and ways of expressing such opinions. There was a post I read recently in which someone expressed this longing for the way the Cathe forum once was, before all these new characters stepped in.
And this makes me uncomfortable. Because I was once new to the forum, too.
I did notice the change. So I changed my lurking and surfing habits. I quit coming to the Open Discussion first and started off at the DVD comments place, where there are more workout- and fitness-related threads. Like Christine said, if you don't like the thread, don't enter it, don't respond. And I also agree with Kathryn. We can't be forum police.
Pinky
dmd
Cathlete
I agree with Christine on the subject of "ignoring" a thread if it doesn't interest or even offends you.
I would think that the one who post a questionable topic would get the message if no one respond to their thread. Simple as that. Just don't enter and give a your .o2 and the thing will go away, I figure.
dmd
I would think that the one who post a questionable topic would get the message if no one respond to their thread. Simple as that. Just don't enter and give a your .o2 and the thing will go away, I figure.
dmd
dmd
Cathlete
I agree with Christine on the subject of "ignoring" a thread if it doesn't interest or even offends you.
I would think that the one who post a questionable topic would get the message if no one respond to their thread. Simple as that. Just don't enter and give a your .o2 and the thing will go away, I figure.
dmd
I would think that the one who post a questionable topic would get the message if no one respond to their thread. Simple as that. Just don't enter and give a your .o2 and the thing will go away, I figure.
dmd
Imafitnessfreak
Cathlete
The rule I have set for myself is to keep my topics, comments and discussions (regardless of subject matter) rated "G" or at least "PG". However, I am the type who doesn't like to share anything beyond those ratings anyway.
I think we can talk about whatever but just do what Cathe says "keep it clean". Cathe did not just hand us a puzzle with missing pieces. We are adults, we know what that means. If you wouldn't read it out loud to your children, maybe it belongs on a different site.
I think we can talk about whatever but just do what Cathe says "keep it clean". Cathe did not just hand us a puzzle with missing pieces. We are adults, we know what that means. If you wouldn't read it out loud to your children, maybe it belongs on a different site.
Imafitnessfreak
Cathlete
The rule I have set for myself is to keep my topics, comments and discussions (regardless of subject matter) rated "G" or at least "PG". However, I am the type who doesn't like to share anything beyond those ratings anyway.
I think we can talk about whatever but just do what Cathe says "keep it clean". Cathe did not just hand us a puzzle with missing pieces. We are adults, we know what that means. If you wouldn't read it out loud to your children, maybe it belongs on a different site.
I think we can talk about whatever but just do what Cathe says "keep it clean". Cathe did not just hand us a puzzle with missing pieces. We are adults, we know what that means. If you wouldn't read it out loud to your children, maybe it belongs on a different site.
Bobbi
Cathlete
I think for the most part we do a great job of knowing what topics are ok or not, and when occasionally we don't, it gets taken care of as this latest incident did. I have to wonder if some members who were uncomfortable with those now infamous threads didn't email SNM and prompt action?
I don't think the site can be deemed G or PG. I don't think it should. My teenage kids lay things on me that have are pretty gruesome from a mother's point of view and we have very frank discussions because they are exposed to sex and drug information from their peers, which often shock me. Maintaining their innocence seems much more difficult than it did when I was young. (I pray all those abstinance classes I've signed them up for, in spite of their groans, have stuck!) My middle schooler informed that one of her Girl Scout friends had had sex and she was 12 years old. It made me want to cry. Would you deem that inappropriate, if I had come on and shared that when I wrestled about whether or not to take action with that information? It's defnitely mature subject matter. But I think we can handle mature subject matter around here, carefully, because this is an adult site. An occasional high schooler may come on to learn about fitness but I don't see why youngsters would be in these forums when they are too immature to do the sort of working out we discuss here. We know that we are expected to be discreet. That doesn't mean we can't discuss mature matters but it must be done properly and perhaps in ways that are relavent to fitness and well-being. Some of the OT's have nothing to do with anything except getting to know each other and pass on jokes and chat and that's terrific too. There was that whole newbie/oldie thing but that's so unimportant. I'm dumping those labels. I have read some wonderful chatty posts I didn't jump onto because I don't know the posters, who are fairly new here, yes, but they showed a delightful comeraderie and great humor and gave me a chuckle. There are a few men here but we women have brought up our cycles, among other things. And, why not. It's a natural process, not taboo. Pregnancy comes up; that's p.g. , yes but adult. We're very complex and certain issues which might be considered mature may come up and would have bearing on our well-being and that all ties in with what we do here. I embrace a fit lifestyle to enhance my complete well-being, don't you? I don't think we need to be afraid to bring up anything as long as it's not gratuitous. We don't need intimate details for curiosity's sake but if they are necessary for another reason, we can find a way to express that delicately and to discuss pretty much anything as we always have.
We have new guidelines to help us decide how best to express ourselves. It'll be fun!
Bobbi http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/chicken.gif "Chick's rule!"
Maturity is the ability to do a job whether or not you are supervised, to carry money without spending it, and to bear an injustice without wanting to get even.
-Ann Landers
I don't think the site can be deemed G or PG. I don't think it should. My teenage kids lay things on me that have are pretty gruesome from a mother's point of view and we have very frank discussions because they are exposed to sex and drug information from their peers, which often shock me. Maintaining their innocence seems much more difficult than it did when I was young. (I pray all those abstinance classes I've signed them up for, in spite of their groans, have stuck!
) My middle schooler informed that one of her Girl Scout friends had had sex and she was 12 years old. It made me want to cry. Would you deem that inappropriate, if I had come on and shared that when I wrestled about whether or not to take action with that information? It's defnitely mature subject matter. But I think we can handle mature subject matter around here, carefully, because this is an adult site. An occasional high schooler may come on to learn about fitness but I don't see why youngsters would be in these forums when they are too immature to do the sort of working out we discuss here. We know that we are expected to be discreet. That doesn't mean we can't discuss mature matters but it must be done properly and perhaps in ways that are relavent to fitness and well-being. Some of the OT's have nothing to do with anything except getting to know each other and pass on jokes and chat and that's terrific too. There was that whole newbie/oldie thing but that's so unimportant. I'm dumping those labels. I have read some wonderful chatty posts I didn't jump onto because I don't know the posters, who are fairly new here, yes, but they showed a delightful comeraderie and great humor and gave me a chuckle. There are a few men here but we women have brought up our cycles, among other things. And, why not. It's a natural process, not taboo. Pregnancy comes up; that's p.g. , yes but adult. We're very complex and certain issues which might be considered mature may come up and would have bearing on our well-being and that all ties in with what we do here. I embrace a fit lifestyle to enhance my complete well-being, don't you? I don't think we need to be afraid to bring up anything as long as it's not gratuitous. We don't need intimate details for curiosity's sake but if they are necessary for another reason, we can find a way to express that delicately and to discuss pretty much anything as we always have. We have new guidelines to help us decide how best to express ourselves. It'll be fun!
Bobbi http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/chicken.gif "Chick's rule!"
Maturity is the ability to do a job whether or not you are supervised, to carry money without spending it, and to bear an injustice without wanting to get even.
-Ann Landers