Maribeth - did I miss your protein diet /negatives post?

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fit_4_forty

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Maribeth -

I have been looking forward to your post on the downsides of high protein diets. I have been trying to do a quasi Body Rx plan, which to me sounds pretty balanced. It is: increasing protein to about 1g/pound of body weight, keep fiber at or above 30g daily. Eat plenty of fruits/veggies with no limits, and try not to go overboard with breads, rice, pasta (so I have oatmeal for breakfast, sandwich for lunch, 1/2 c. rice for dinner for instance). I don't know if that really counts as high protein, because percentage wise it doesn't really go over 25% of my daily calories in protein.

Anyway, I just wanted you to know I hoped that I did not miss your post on this, because I really learned from your original post on the thermic effects of protein.

Anyone else trying anything similar, I'd love to hear about your experience as well. Are you Body Rxers really able to eat all that protein and fiber?

Rhonda
 
I was just wondering about that too. I think she mentioned one on heavy weight training, also. Poor girl must be horribly busy, wouldn't you love have her as your personal trainer?

Shape had a really good article in the current issue regarding this, and they had a "method" of calculating out your protein needs. Very interesting. I was surprised by how much I actually do need.

But I always look forward to Maribeth's posts :-jumpy!
 
I agree she must be very busy - I just wanted her to know that she had an interested audience whenever she does find the time!

I saw the Shape article also - Maribeth seems to go into so much more detail about the science behind the figures. She would be great to have as a trainer!
 
Rhonda,

How long have you been doing BodyRx and do you like it? Do you feel full enough? I don't have the book yet and am currently doing BFL but I feel I need a little more "oomph" to get me down to the Bodyfat I'd like to be at. I've been considering BodyRx next.

Colleen
 
Colleen,

I have not decided if I want to go all out with the Body Rx diet. The first phase alone is pretty challenging for me - it recommends eating 1g of protein per pound of body weight, plus 30g of fiber. It goes up from there for phases 2-4. I am having a tough time getting the protein up that high, and don't really like to do protein supplements. But I will say that by eating more protein, and unlimited fruits and veggies, and getting my fiber up, I have been VERY satisfied. You should definitely give it a look. Or just try the goals for Phase 1 that I mentioned above - I have actually dropped 2 pounds over the last couple of weeks just by trying to hit those two goals. I'm still wondering if it is just a coincidence.

I also like what the book says about weight lifting. He gives you 4 strength training phases also, which are intended to build muscle and burn fat. It gave me some new ideas.

Hope this helped.

Rhonda
 
Hey, Guys!
I've been researching and writing my little fingers off! I'm working on a book (if I can ever get it all together with my ADD), and the past couple of weeks things seemed to come together.

Just a couple of things off the top of my head as far as the negatives of too much protein--if you are an active person (doing a Cathe workout every day definitely qualifies), low carb diets won't meet your glycogen/blood glucose needs. Low carb diets deplete glycogen stores and when you start to exercise, the body will poop out trying to make glucose from protein, so your exercise intensity will suffer.

High protein diets are also notoriously low in fiber, since they are typically low carbohydrate. Fiber is one of the things that keeps us "regular", so low fiber diets can tend to lead to constipation.

High protein diets can be dehydrating and hard on the kidneys, as well as leading to problems like gout. Not with everybody, and not necessarily immediately, but it is a possibility.

As one source I read mentioned, our bodies are designed to use a combo of carbs and storage fat for energy. Any eating plan that focuses on forcing our body to deviate from its design will negatively impact its function. High protein diets force the body to use protein for fuel, meaning the body isn't functioning optimally.

Somebody remind me what I was gonna post about heavy lifting--was it pertaining to pre-exhaust or to the idea that the term "heavy" is relative, or as pertains to maximizing muscle size?

Maribeth, the Scatter-Brained
 
Maribeth -

Thank You! Hope your book turned out great!

I'm feeling pretty good about my diet - I don't think the negatives of the high protein diet are really going to apply to my situation, because I am still getting lots of fruits/veggies/fiber. I'm really just adding more protein to a balanced diet, which according to the experts, such as yourself, is appropriate if we are doing intense strength workouts. I am not going low-carb, just lowering the refined kinds of carb.

Sorry, I do not remember what you were going to say about lifting heavy - I guess you are not the only one whose brain is scattered!

Rhonda
 
Maribeth, you remind me of my sister. She also has ADD and she is also a scientific (geophysics). I totally understand what to have ADD is like, because although I am not diagnosed with it I believe I have it too. BTW, I am diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder.

Sorry for the change of subject. I just needed to tell you how much you remind me of my sister and I don't even know you!
 
Hi Maribeth,

I don't remember which heavy lifting question you were going to talk about, but I'd love to hear about maximizing muscle size. Feel free to talk about the others too. I'm interested in them all but don't want to be 'greedy' :)
 
Yup, yup I believe that was it, "maximizing muscle mass" by Maribeth. If you don't mind me asking:-rollen . . . How much or little cardio? For strength: slow and heavy lifting is best for gaining muscle mass?

Thanks for letting us pick your brain!;-)

Julie
 
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