I find it a bit strange......

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trevor

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that somehow whenever we attempt to discuss something very relevant like today's election or some other current event, we either end up getting out of line and then getting the thread locked, OR we get the thread locked for talking about something not fitness related.
BUT...If I want to know all of the intimate details of certain people's relationships or body functions, I can read all day and watch the threads grow endlessly without ever being locked off.
I think the personal stuff I have seen on this forum is more out of line than discussing politics.
I think that's a pretty sad statement about things here in general. Just my opinion....flame away.
T. :)
 
Trevor, I get the distinct feeling the thread was locked because of the specific name calling that went on in it from few individuals. Direct insults on specific individuals and using profanity (although it was cutely disguised with characters imbedded in the word) is against the guidelines. Just my humble opinion, of course. I could be full of s*h%i#t.

Carol
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I agree Trevor
I think discussing politics and religion are two areas that will ALWAYS cause
problems and no one can discuss them without the discussion getting way out of hand. It proberly was the name calling and profanity used because politics is a passionate area to many and its those people who can never "agree" to "disagree" in a sensible mature manner.

Im also amazed how some very interesting, fitness/diet related treads hardly get a look in but if you wanna discuss your personal life..............
 
Hi Trevor, I just went over to read that thread, OMG I can see why it was lock. I guess if there wasn't so much name calling it wouldn't have been lock. Well anyway have a great Election Day:).
 
Wow!! I just read the thread. It would be nice if we could all express our views and respectfully agree to disagree with others. But it's obvious that it got very personal with some folks. What a shame. This forum is "open discussion" after all. But I guess when it gets hurtful like it did it's time to shut it down. BTW I understand your rationale for the original post.

catherine
 
I agree with the others Trevor. It was probably the language used and biting comments. I was enjoying it, but was surprised that it kept going as long as it did. I often have wondered how some things stay on as long as they do and others are locked up or completely gone.
Diane Sue
 
Trevor,

I agree that the thread was getting out of hand and should have been locked. I also think that the thread being locked had nothing to do with the topic of discussion but the fact that personal attacks were being made. IMHO I think that adults should act like adults and not degrade others regardless of their opinions. Had the thread continued with constructive criticism and debate I think it would not have been locked. But instead, it got WAY out of hand.

Wendy:)

Edited because I forgot to mention that had the thread been locked due to the topic it would have been done much earlier-before 47 responses. It was only locked after the personal attacks were made.
 
Trevor, calling you "nuts" in the other thread was just a tongue-in-cheek thing. No offense meant.:7
 
Hi Trevor :) I have to agree with Claridge that anytime politics or religion are the topic of discussion, there's gonna be a lot of heat generated...people do just get carried away...always have and always will. That said, I believe I understood the intent of your original post (to get out and make an informed vote, but get out and VOTE)...but you gotta know that sort of topic is always gonna be a HOT one. :) As for the contrast with personal info posts...I think these sorts of posts generate a whole different set of emotions in folks in general...it's just human nature to gravitate towards these and want to try to help if possible. Anyway, just my (very) humble $.02!! :)
 
Female nature

It's female nature to get deeply into personal details.

I disagree with Claridge: I do think that some people *can* discuss either religion or politics without degrading the discussion into name-calling and personal attacks.

Some people, however, can't. They are like the terrorist "suicide bombers" except instead of sacrificing their lives, they sacrifice their own dignity in order to prevent others from having a discussion.

One great thing about this forum is, you can't post unless you have a name. In some forums you can post without logging in,and call yourself "Anonymous." The flames really fly in those places.
 
RE: Female nature

Well said Conni. There are many people that have married others with different political views that can cohabit and manage to not become extremely aggravated.
Diane Sue
 
RE: Female nature

I wonder if Trevors sitting back shaking his head and thinking "Here we go again........."

Yes - two people good proberly discuss politics and religion sensibly and maturely but we are not talking about a couple of people here. Over 40 individuals had a point of view to share and in any forum or open debate, you will get tension and heated discussions. It wouldnt have mattered if we were all in a room together outside this forum, the discussion would have had the same outcome. We ALL like to be RIGHT!!!!!.

As for comparing somebodys point of view with "suicide bombers", I feel is very over the top and proberly not done in the best taste (although Im sure you didnt mean it to be so considering that subject itself is very personal and would indeed cause more fast fingers on the keyboard)

I also dont think any of the members who contributed to that discussion felt they sacrificed their dignity by having a different point of view from others - infact they proberly felt heaps better by getting it of their chest. Where eles can you have a rant or rave and have people listen by reading and responding to your posts - very therapeutic I would think ( I know I feel heaps better as I write this) and the whole idea is not to necessarily have other people change your mind about things, but give you more food for thought and a healthy respect for others opinion. No one in that discussion ment to hurt anyones feelings with unkind words - after all, we are all "Forum Friends" :)
 
RE: Connie, you are my hero!

Connie, you write the best posts, so eloquent and timely. I am secure enough in my political beliefs and religious faith to discuss them anytime - and I'm more than happy to hear what others think, even if I disagree with them - it makes the world such an interesting place!. You are one of my forum favourites!

Cheers
Liz N
 
Donna....

I know. No need to explain. I am not THAT thin-skinned! LOL!! And I respect your view.
Have a great day!!
T. :)
 
All of you are great, I just want to say.
I guess I am just disappointed it got out of hand. It wasn't even heated in a good way, if you know what I mean. It went downhill quick, and WHY I cannot figure. LOL!! It was like an eruption.
I guess I am also disappointed to have some of my fears reaffirmed---that more than a few people, Rep. or Dem., vote for reasons I feel have nothing to do with issues AND vote uninformed. And I hate to think that our future resides in the hands of people like that as much as it does in the hands of people who actually take time to think and research it a bit.
Anyway.....have a great day everyone!
T. :)
 
I find it a bit strange...
that you are having a hard time figuring out why your post engendered such heated responses.
I'm sorry, but it came across as quite pompous, as if your vote is truly informed and others are well... misguided. There are other issues at stake besides the war in Iraq.
I knew there was a reason I so seldom come to this forum any more.
 
Living on a diverse planet, we are subjected to people of different race, sex, religion and political view. Everyone is different and unique which makes respecting diversity an important issue in today’s society. Unfortunately, it seems as if the world has turned a blind eye towards this issue.

As far as voting goes, the reason we vote for a candidate is diverse. A black and white view of the world would be such that "Your vote must be based on educated, truly informed research and logic. How can you make a wise decision if you let emotion play a part? Emotion should not be involved." while a more tolerant view would be "This is a democracy,not a dictatorship. Choose your candidate based on whatever guidelines you feel necessary".

IMHO, thank God this is a democracy :7
 
You know, Trevor...I don't think it's really that much that people vote for frivilous reasons. I think it's more that people have a hard time articulating their reasons. My brother-in-law asked my husband the other night why he supported Kerry (BIL is a Bush supporter). My husband has many extremely good reasons and he's discussed them with me a lot ever since the war started. But he just kind of went "duhhhhh...." when his brother challenged him.

There probably are quite a few who just vote because of the way someone looks, or what their political affiliation is. I heard a friend of my father's say, "I'd rather vote for the devil I know than the devil I don't". But, I think it's probably not as bad as it appears. If you were to give someone the opportunity to really form their answer, you'd get a better response.

Of course, I have a pretty idealistic view of people and always hold them in a better light than a lot deserve. Even those who are "nuts" ha ha
 
If you think me telling people to make an informed vote is pompous then so be it. You are way off base in my view. It's strange because if you are getting pissed about that then it tells me, and others, that you mustn't want people to make an informed vote. Am I correct in that assumption?
My vote was an informed one, based on about 6 months of me researching the issues and also talking with two people I am friends with who work inside the White House. Oh, and that involved alot of wading through the piles of misinformation that was often thrown out there for the "let's learn the ins and outs of the election in as short amount of time as possible from Dan Rather" crowd. I think after that I do know who I voted for and why. If you did also, then fine.
As for how often you come to this forum.....that's irrelevant to this discussion. I'm not sure I saw anyone expressing concern about how often you come here.
T.
 
Candi, this country is NOT a democracy by ANY stretch of the imagination.
Another example of tolerance might be...."ah hell the islamic extremists just beheaded another American. Let's sit down with them and try to understand their feelings on why they did that."
Tolerance is good...to a point. And I will never personally tolerate votes being cast for candidates based on some of the BS I have heard recently. It should be done based on issues in my view.
We are not going to agree on this one. Sorry.
T.
 
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