How to gain shoulder strength???

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What workout would be the best to gain shoulder strength? I've been working out for a couple years and I still can't seem to do overhead shoulder presses with more than 8 lb. dumbbells without arching my back. Any suggestions?? I've been basically using total boby strength workouts like MIS, Power Hour, ME, CTX series, PP, Supersets. I also have Body Max, C&W, Timesaver, SJP. Should I invest in the Pyramid DVD or maybe Pure Strength???
Thanks
 
What workout would be the best to gain shoulder strength? I've been working out for a couple years and I still can't seem to do overhead shoulder presses with more than 8 lb. dumbbells without arching my back. Any suggestions?? I've been basically using total boby strength workouts like MIS, Power Hour, ME, CTX series, PP, Supersets. I also have Body Max, C&W, Timesaver, SJP. Should I invest in the Pyramid DVD or maybe Pure Strength???
Thanks
 
Here's my routine--it's worked pretty well, note the weights:

3 sets military presses w/25 lb dumbbells--I use a chair bench, lower back support really helps keep form & not arch

3 sets side raises w/20 lbs

3 sets decline side raises w/20 lbs

3 sets front raises w/20-25 lbs
 
Here's my routine--it's worked pretty well, note the weights:

3 sets military presses w/25 lb dumbbells--I use a chair bench, lower back support really helps keep form & not arch

3 sets side raises w/20 lbs

3 sets decline side raises w/20 lbs

3 sets front raises w/20-25 lbs
 
Actually, I saw the best gain in shoulder strength from a combination of the Slow and Heavy series and the Pyramids. I love these two workouts - found them very effective for improving my strength in every area.

Cheers,
Sandra
 
You see them at a gym w/a decline bench on occasion--basically you're lying facing the bench, w/the rear of the bench declined. This works the rear deltoids.

You can actually do them w/a chair as well. Sit on the edge of a chair and lean forward until your chin touches your knees. Put your feet forward and hold the two dumbells direcly under your thighs (or behind your calves--hope I'm explaining this properly) and proceed w/the raises.
 
The following is a reply from CATHE on shoulder strength:

Here is my suggestion:

Since many people are strongest with MILITARY PRESSES, lets start
with that and do a two warm up sets of 10 pounders (when I say that
I mean 2 dumbbells at 10 pounds each) at 15 reps. Now start a third
set with 12 pounders and do 12 reps. Now a fourth set with 15
pounders and do 10 reps. Now for your fifth set use 10 to 12 pounders
(you'll have to see which one you can handle)and shoot for 8 to 10
SLOW reps. For your SLOW reps, go up 6 seconds and down two
seconds.

(Your shoulders should have some nice warmth in them now).

Next exercise: LONG LEVER SIDE LATERAL RAISE
Do two sets of 12 reps with 8 pounders
Do one set of 8 to 10 SLOW reps (up 6 seconds down 2 seconds)with
5 pounders.

Next exercise: FRONT RAISE
Do two sets of 12 reps with 8 pounders
Then one set of 8 to 10 SLOW reps (up 6 down 2)with 5 pounders.

Next exercise: REAR DELT RAISES
Do two sets of 12 reps with 5 or 8 pounders
Do one SLOW set of 8 to 10 reps with 3 or 5 pounders.

Final exercise: SIDE LYING EXTERNAL ROTATIONS
Lying on your side, knees bent, head supported with arm that is under
you. Now with a dumbbell in your top arm and your top arm bent in a
90 degree angle at your side, rotate your arm upward as high as it
comfortably can go without moving your elbow from its position. FORM
POINTER: Do not let top arm touch body at all. Rotate the dumbbell
upward, keeping your elbow in a fixed position as if your elbow is a
rotisseri stick.

Do two sets of 10 reps with 5 pounders.
Then do one SLOW set(up 6 down 2)of 8 to 10 reps with 3 pounders.

Do this workout 2 times per week. If you are ever pressed for time,
you can leave out the rear delt raises since the lying rotation calls
upon the rear delts too. If you do not start to see a difference in
three weeks, change things around again. Good Luck!



Susan C.M.:D
 
Maxiumus... Girl you rock!! You can lift SOME weight!! I betcha your a tough cookie, I can only aspire to those weights
 
Thanks Groundhog--that's so sweet! I bet you can reach those aspirations--if you work out at a gym try using a spotter. It really helped me a lot--when I started increasing weights I'd go up 5 lbs on my 3rd set using a spotter (for all exersizes, not just shoulders). You'd be amazed at the results.

In fact, I suppose you could use a spotter at home too. Put those husbands & kids to work!
 

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