How do you bring down your cholesteral?

darli ann

Cathlete
I just had my yearly blood test for cholesteral and it came back borderline high at 211. Just wondering if any of you have high cholesteral and what you eat to help keep it down. I've done pretty well in the last few years keeping it down by eating better and exercising (it used to be around 280). My goal is to keep it down naturally and avoid taking meds for it. Just wondering if anyone has recommendations on this. I'd like to stay below 200 without meds.
 
If you find the answer let me know. I really struggle with it. High cholesterol runs in my family and no amount of good eating and exercise will reduce mine to normal;( x(

Michele
 
Using whole wheat instead of white for noodles, bread, rice, etc. will help. Also making sure you eat plenty of fiber from oatmeal, veggies, fruit and other whole grains. You want to cut out fatty meats such as pork and ribeyes and stick to chicken breasts, lean beef, etc. If you are going to cook with oil, make sure it is olive oil and not vegetable or corn oil. Eat no more than two or three eggs per WEEK. Cut out any processed foods (frozen or boxed dinners, potatoe chips, etc.) that you may eat and cut back on butter.

How are you eating now and what changes have you made in your diet to get it down from 280? I am VERY impressed that you have gotten it down so much! :) You must feel so proud of yourself! If you give us all a sample of what you eat each day, you will definitely get more helpful feedback. :)

Missy
 
>If you find the answer let me know. I really struggle with
>it. High cholesterol runs in my family and no amount of good
>eating and exercise will reduce mine to normal;( x(
>
>Michele

Ditto what Michele said.

I did cut out a lot of the obvious things and added in steel cut oats, blueberries (read they lower cholesterol), changed to Smart Balance light and brown rice and wheat pasta. That got my cholesterol down from the 300's to 285. I was impressed, however the dr. wasn't.:) He put me on 10mg of Lipitor. I go in a few weeks for a recheck.

I have been wondering if a person is not overweight, eats rights, and exercises is cholesterol medicine really necessary?

Good luck!

Dallas

ETA: I only eat egg whites. I haven't had a yolk in years!:-(
 
>I have been wondering if a person is not overweight, eats
>rights, and exercises is cholesterol medicine really
>necessary?


some people have high cholesterol because of genetics and no amount of right eating or exercising will bring it down, so then meds are needed. You don't want that stuff to clog up your arteries and cause a stroke or heart attack. My stepdad (cardiologist) has very few patients (like three in the past few years) who do everything right but still have high numbers, and meds are all that can help.

Missy
 
Just an FYI:
Hormonal contraceptives can cause an elevated cholesterol in some users. In our local area, it seems doctors fail to take this into consideration.

Autumn
 
I actually already do all the things you suggested. I eat very little red meat, I cook with the recommended oils, I eat lots of oatmeal (I think that helped me the most because I really put alot of oatmeal away before my count went from 280 to 196 last year). I rarely eat processed foods but now and then I splurge on a Reese's peanut butter cup from the vending machine or order pizza with co-workers. Sometimes I guess I feel I can cheat a little because I exercise regularly. Guess I was wrong! I didn't expect it to go up again, although the doctor didn't seem too concerned about 211. High cholesteral runs in my family too. Mom, Dad, and several sisters take meds for it. I'm the rebel. I want to lower it on my own for as long as I can.
 
Dallas, I share your frustration. My cholesterol was also over 300 and is now down to 215. I eat steel cut oats about 5 days a week, I eat whole grain bread, I use things like whole wheat couscous. I eat tons of fruits and veges. and very little beef--when I do it's sirloin. I eat a lot of chicken breasts and tuna. It makes me so mad x(

Michele
 
>
>>I have been wondering if a person is not overweight, eats
>>rights, and exercises is cholesterol medicine really
>>necessary?
>
>
>some people have high cholesterol because of genetics and no
>amount of right eating or exercising will bring it down, so
>then meds are needed. You don't want that stuff to clog up
>your arteries and cause a stroke or heart attack. My stepdad
>(cardiologist) has very few patients (like three in the past
>few years) who do everything right but still have high
>numbers, and meds are all that can help.
>
>Missy

Thanks Missy! That's what I was afraid to hear. Obviously, I'm on the meds, as is the rest of my family. I just hate to think I have to be on this the rest of my life! :-( Believe you me, I have procrastinated going on medicine for a LONG time. However, my biological mom had a heart attack at 50 and weighs only 120 lbs and is 5"4'. We have the same build and THAT freaked me out!
 
I hear you Michele! It's very frustrating!

Darli Ann ~ That's funny that you say you are the rebel. I was the only one NOT on medication too. I thought I lead a healthy lifestyle, I can do this on my own. Be careful, OK? How often do you go to the doctor?

Dallas
 
I lowered my cholestrol from 270 to 212 without medicine. I only use canola or olive oil for fat. I try not to eat processed foods or foods with partially hydrogenated in the label or fructose or corn syrup. I use flaxseed and berries every day in my protein shake and that increased my fiber intake as well. I try to eat natural foods such as fruits and vegetables and I eat flaxseed bread sparingly. Other things to reduce is red meat and saturated fats (and perhaps prepared foods).

I did learn that I was an egg responder when I participated in an egg study. What that means is that when I eat whole eggs, I have an increase in my cholestrol, total and HDL (NOT LDL). The interesting thing about that, however, is that I needed to increase my HDL so to do that I increased my whole egg intake. I had reduced my good cholestrol to 28, by reducing my fat intake, and finally worked it back up to a better 50's number.

I am now on Zocor (did not like Lipitor and muscle soreness) and have seen my cholestrol go down to 198 (LDL is 128, much better than 135 with lipitor!).

Also, I do not like to eat Oatmeal (not the instant or any kind) but it is also a good reducer of cholestrol. Perhaps I can add that if my DH makes his meatloaf....

Exercise, fiber, and natural diet will all help you in reducing your cholestrol. It does take a while to see results.

Good luck,
 
>I am now on Zocor (did not like Lipitor and muscle soreness)
>and have seen my cholestrol go down to 198 (LDL is 128, much
>better than 135 with lipitor!).
>


My doctor is switching me to Zocor as well. I hope my results are as good as yours.

Michele
 
Autumn,

I know that OC increase your risk of stroke, but why, with the three different ob's I have had in the past, has noone ever said a word about how it affects your cholesterol? I feel pretty upset about that as I sit here and type. Thank you so much for enlightening me. I don't have to worry about it now since Dan had a vasectomy, but it would have been nice to know when I was on contraceptives. I am p@ssed now.

Missy
 
My doctor suggests I have another cholesteral test done in 6 months so depending on whether the count goes up or down I may consider meds. Just wondering if there was something else I could add to the mix to help it along. I don't do the flaxseed thing as much as I could so maybe I'll try that daily and see what happens.
 
Darli Ann--

How much cardio are you doing? I just ask because my doctor told me today that I should up my cardio. I hate to admit to such a thing on the Cathe forums, but I detest cardio. I just hate it and it's the first thing I'll blow off when I'm in a crunch.

Michele
 
>Autumn,
>
>I know that OC increase your risk of stroke, but why, with the
>three different ob's I have had in the past, has noone ever
>said a word about how it affects your cholesterol? I feel
>pretty upset about that as I sit here and type. Thank you so
>much for enlightening me. I don't have to worry about it now
>since Dan had a vasectomy, but it would have been nice to know
>when I was on contraceptives. I am p@ssed now.
>
>Missy

That would p!$$ me off too. I think (and this is not an excuse) that if you don't have a history of high cholesterol when OC are prescribed that doctors tend to not be concerned about it. I don't know much about that anymore--perhaps Autumn knows what the incidence is of developing high cholesterol just by taking the pill.

Michele
 
Well, I have to put my imput in here... 4 years ago today about this
time 4pm in the east I was in the operating room getting a pacemaker
It has nothing to do with high cholestral but that I have also.
It's around 240. I use flaxmeal and wholegrains, exercise and
have tried other foods that I've read about. I havn't had it checked
since then. I think I keep stalling to go because I have a feeling
they'll want to put me on meds. I asked my cardioigist and he
said I need to discuss it with my dr. which I never did. Which I
know isn't a good thing.....
Garilee
 
Hi Garilee,

I definitely think you should get in to your doctor and have it checked. I know, it's just a horrible thing to have to do. I went for my annual physical today. I always dread it and breathe a sigh of relief when it's over. I turned 50 this year so you know what that means? My drainpipe has an appointment with the snake--UGH!!;(

This is not directed at any one individual, but do you all know what we're talking about here?

PREVENTION!!!

Yup--It's when you go to your doctor and they weigh you, check your blood pressure, listen to your heart, palpate your organs and glands, look in your ears, snake your hind end, etc and so on. Then they ask you all kinds of questions and check your blood chemistry.

Yes, it's not robbery--it's prevention. Okay--I'm really done now.

Michele
 
I agree with Michele. Prevention is the key. And it is always a good idea to get your blood work done so you know where you are at.

With that said, there are a few supplements that can also help. I have a friend who's cholesterol was 310, and she brought it down to 130 now (naturally). She changed up her diet (more fiber, whole grains), but she also started taking an Omega-3 supplement and garlic supplement.

I don't know if this is an interest for you or not, but there is a website that I use a lot. It has a TON of info on there regarding health issues. It is related to Shaklee, so keep that in mind if you decide to listen to the files. The website is www.theglobalsuccessteam.net. If you click on the 'PRODUCT INFO' button, it will take you to a series of audio files you can listen to. Talk #12 is on Cholesterol & Heart Health. The website is free, and you can listen to the talk there. I think it contains a lot of helpful info. If you have some down-time, you may want to listen to it and see if it has any info that you think can help you.

If you want any more info, send me a personal email ([email protected]) and I'll send some more info to you about natural ways to control your cholesterol levels.
 
<why, with the three different ob's I have had in the past, has noone ever said a word about how it affects your cholesterol?>

I don't have an answer. The progestin in contraceptives MAY increase the level of total cholesterol, Trigycerides, LDL, and VLDL. The newer generation progestins are supposed to produce more favorable lipid profiles. This information is based on info from "Managing Contraceptive Pill Patients" and "Contraceptive Technology". "Clincial Gynecology, Endocrinology, and Infertility" relate the effect of progestins to the older high-dose forumulations. My personal experience and clinical experience support the potential effect on lipids, but of course each woman is different. Here are examples of my lipid profiles
OrthoCept (pills) 6/95
Cholesterol 198
Triglycerides 200
HDL 42
LDL 122

Depo 9/95
Cholesterol 217
Triglycerides 159
HDL 51
LDL 134

Depo 11/95
Cholesterol 222
Triglycerides 139
HDL 51
LDL 143

My diet and exercise remained unchanged and this is what my lipids looked like. I don't have my labs in front of me after I stopped hormonal contraceptives, but I remember being amazed at the change. I'll find those lab values.

I may find an incidence if I search through my journals, which I will do when I get a chance.

I was ticked too, I have a significant risk for stroke. Elevated triglycerides are as significant a risk factor for stroke as smoking.

I'll research it more when I have time.

HTH!
Autumn
 

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