Food Inc

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Has anyone here seen Food Inc? It's out in select theaters now.
Amazon has the DVD for pre-order scheduled to be released November.

It's scary stuff. I had no idea they used chemicals to ripen our veggies!:mad:
How in the world are we suppose to know how to choose our food? I'm so confused.:confused:
What do you do when you don't have a local farmer you can turn to?
I try to buy organic but from what I understand that label doesn't guarantee it's really organic?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqQVll-MP3I&feature=related

Here's a link to help you locate a theater
http://www.movietickets.com/movie_detail.asp?movie_id=66346
 
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I've been hearing so much about this, I really want to see it! Don't know if it will play in the sticks though.

One of the reasons the organic label is not 100 percent trustworthy these days mostly because agri-business and big food companies have been strenuously lobbying to get the standards relaxed for a while now.

Cynthia, for more info and to keep abreast, check out websites such as

http://www.organicconsumers.org/

http://www.foodrenegade.com/

http://www.sustainabletable.org/home.php

http://realfoodmedia.com/
 
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I've been hearing so much about this, I really want to see it! Don't know if it will play in the sticks though.

One of the reasons the organic label is not 100 percent trustworthy these days mostly because argi-business and big food companies have been strenuously lobbying to get the standards relaxed for a while now.

Cynthia, for more info and to keep abreast, check out websites such as

http://www.organicconsumers.org/

http://www.foodrenegade.com/

http://www.sustainabletable.org/home.php

http://realfoodmedia.com/


Thanks for the links!
I need to find a better way to shop for my food.
 
This looks very interesting and informing . . .

I personally dislike big ag . . .don't trust them.
 
I saw a trailer for it somewhere on the internet. Was a link from some site I can't recall. I think it looks interesting, but I'm not sure I want to know. Obviously, there's nothing around that's safe to eat. And we wonder why so many have cancer, are obese, and all sorts of other funky things. Our bodies aren't made to process chemicals. Just because things don't digest in our systems doesn't mean they aren't absorbed or have odd side effects, especially with the amount of unpronouncable crap we eat. I guess we just muddle thru and do best we can.

Nan
 
Nan,

I understand how you feel. I felt the same way but it will only get worse if we keep turning away from it.

Thanks for the link Gayle:)

I was wondering about the Farmer's market... Are they a good place to buy local produce or is it another version of orgranic products we find at our big grocery store?
 
I was wondering about the Farmer's market... Are they a good place to buy local produce or is it another version of orgranic products we find at our big grocery store?

I know the Farmer's Markets around here are excellent places to get real organic or near organic (high quality, but not certified) food. It's pretty much all small producers.
 
Nan,

I understand how you feel. I felt the same way but it will only get worse if we keep turning away from it.

I so completely agree with this. When I first started reading about our food supply, couple of years ago now, I really didn't want to know. I knew it would just appall and stress me, not to mention complicating my food existence. But like you say, it will only get worse if we allow companies like Monsanto to take over our food supply for their own gain. I recently read that Monsanto is now trying to patent certain pigs.

Something to consider. I just finished a book called The Unhealthy Truth. In it the writer (who is a mom turned food activist) talks about how in Europe Wal-Mart, Kraft and Coca-Cola are or have VOLUNTARILY taken the HFCS and artificial colorings and dyes out of their products because, as the head of Wal-Mart Europe said (paraphrasing) British and European consumers and parents are much more aware of what their children are consuming, and so we want to be proactive. They may being doing the same thing in Japan. I guess the crap is OK for our American kids though. If American consumers started to demand better and safer food, the companies would do it. Though, as a side note, I wonder how in the heck it's possible to take the dyes and artificial colors out of Skittles! What's left?!

European Catheites please correct me if I have my info wrong.
 
My experience with farmers markets here in the central valley of California (where most of the fruits and vegetables are grown in the USA) is that at least half of what is offered comes straight out of commercial boxes. The produce is the 2nd quality (what can't be sold to chain stores) and they get better than chain store price. That said, it is very small volume.

I work for a rather large produce company. That said, I just wanted to point out that while we may sell 12 million boxes of fruit, the company started out as (and is still owned by) a family of farmers. They just kept reinvesting into buying more land and planting more acreage. It is nearly impossible to make a living off of small amounts of land so from the 30's onward, those who were successful slowly got bigger. Those that stayed small typically went out of business. I know that it is easy to see big farms as scary big business, but honestly, most are cooperatives of farmers who simply want to make a living. They aren't out to get people or poison them. They just are trying to provide the grocery stores what they are asking for: consistent condition, high quality produce.

I haven't watched Food Inc (yet) but as far as chemical applications to vegetables (ok I'm not versed at all in veggies, but I am in some fruits), what is applied is what would happen naturally but instead is done at the time the farmer can control it to ensure a good quality/condition arrival to the stores. For instance, ethylene gas is naturally emitted by many fruits (think peaches, nectarines, apples and pears) as they ripen. That is what makes those fruits get sweeter if you leave it on the counter a few days (or ripen in a paper bag if you are familiar with that trick). That is the same gas that is put on fruit to ripen it (think bananas). There would be no way to get bananas to market if you picked them ripe (think how fast they go from green to brown when you get them home.) Instead, they are picked green, shipped, and then ripened in a special room that has the gas in it to bring it to the right ripeness for eating.

I normally don't respond to posts of this nature because honestly it seems to spark a lot of controversy, largely over distrust of big companies... and there is no way to prove a negative (that big companies aren't out to harm people.) But think it through... why would a company want to harm it's consumer? It just doesn't make sense. If anything, a company wants to please its customer, and if it does, it gets bigger because of it. The company I work for is 4 generations of farming families. They started as dirt poor immigrants in the early 1900s. It took a lot of hard work and dedication and love (trust me, I've never met a farmer that didn't love his "babies" - his produce). I've never seen people more passionate about their business than farmers, whether organic farmers or conventional farmers.
 
Shani, thanks for the info, it's great to get thoughts from an "insider." :)

Just wanted to mention that I'm not down on farmers. A lot of times farmers, even
large-scale ones, are at the mercy of big agriculture/business as well.
 
I don't think I can watch this movie - it will scar me too much. I've heard they pull no punches as it relates to the horrors of the "animal product businesses" and that will make me either homicidal or suicidal. It leaves me in tears, unable to sleep and just a wreck, so I can't watch without editing that part out. It drives me crazy to know how little control I have over what goes in my body. And although farmers are well-intentioned, big companies are not. It's all about profit to them and I find that deeply troubling.
 
Maybe I have the wrong attitude, but I gave up trying to stay away from man-made stuff in my food. It's not just the food (fruits and veggies). What about the meat you eat? You cant' tell me everyone has access to farms and ranches where everything is chemical free and the animals are all well treated and not injected with antibiotics, etc. AND are not fed chemical enhanced foods themselves! Whew!

What about the air we breathe? The water we drink? If you drink bottled water, can you really trust it is clean? The clothes we wear are treated, etc., etc. and ETC.!!!

It makes my head spin!

I can go on and on! There's just no getting away from it!

So, I try to at least limit how much I expose myself to where I can and chalk the rest up to keeping my immunity levels up! It's the only way I can get by!

If anyone has any suggestions as to how to turn this around, I'm way open to it!

I do have access to a couple of decent farmer's markets, but they don't have everything I need. Some things just can't grow here in RI! Or, they're not cost effective for the farmers to grow.

Sigh. In need of some real help!

Tricia

P.S. Won't be going to see that movie! I may faint!
 
Tricia - It can TOTALLY make your head spin...it makes my head spin! :eek: Just do what you can...and don't faint! *hands paper bag to breath in*

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'm very, very lucky to live where I do with regard to food. Over the past year, I've learned a lot about what's available locally.

I had to do a little bit of online legwork to find meat and animal products (I am a committed carnivore ;)) that are humanely treated and antibiotic free/hormone free/grass fed/locally fed/etc. The Local Harvest site helped a lot, as well as checking with some farmers at the Farmers Markets. Actually, it was at a recent FM that I found out that my favorite cheese maker had just started producing whey fed pork and ordered 1/2 a pig.

I end up buying a lot of meat products in bulk (beef and pork), it cuts down the cost and makes it more convenient. One farm near me even delivers via Fed Ex (for a charge, yes I mail-ordered grass fed beef and it came out great). Free range poultry is actually pretty easy to come by in these parts, and everybody and their brother is starting a flock of chickens so pastured eggs are plentiful and generally about $2/dozen.

In the spirit of full disclosure, I will say that I do spend a lot of money on food, but the taste quality is noticeable and I consider it to be an investment in health. :)
 
Tricia we're neighbors! I am right over the border in Eastern CT! We used to live in RI.

WOW! It's great to find a neighbor here in Catheland! If Cathe comes up close this way, we should carpool! My DH is doing a mini-triathlon in CT in August. I think it's on August 9th in Natick? Uh-oh, not sure if I have the right place. Oh well, it's somewhere down there on the coast! Will be there cheering him on!

Tricia
 

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