Deadlift form

dss62467

dss62467

Cathlete
I just went to lunch with this guy and got into a discussion about deadlifts. We got into an argument about the correct form. I showed him the form we use with Cathe and he said it was wrong. Then he showed me his form, and it was SO different that I said he was confused about what a deadlift is.

When we got back to our desks, he showed me this on Bodybuilding.com.

So what's the deal? His point was that I would injure my back doing it the way I do. I keep my abs very tight when I do them, but my lower back does get sore...so maybe there's something to this other form?


http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.php?Name=Barbell+Deadlift
 
That looks like a variety of squat to me, and I refuse to do that type of squat that takes your thighs below a 90 degree angle. It's very hard on the knees.

I have several good books on weight lifting, including "The New Rules of Lifting," "Framework" (written by Cathe's orthopedist, by the way) and another... can't remember the name. All show the deadlift with straight legs, though not locked at the knee.

The "what not to do" photos are correct - don't round your back and shoulders when doing a deadlift.
 
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Hamstrings/BBStraightLegDeadlift.html

Above link is the straight-legged version of deadlift.

Different schools of thought on whats safest but AFPA certification requires that both ways are known and practiced. There are also narrow stance and wide stance deadlifts...

The sample you showed does reduce lower back strain in those that have challenges in that area.

ETA http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.php?Name=Stiff-Legged+Barbell+Deadlift
The Bodybuilding site you showed a link from also shows the straight legged version.



HTH
 
I argued with him about it being a variety of a squat too...but I guess I was wrong on that.

Still, as long as I was right on our way being correct, that's all that matters. I hate being wrong.x(
 
Donna,
That is the body building version of a deadlift. Straight legged dead lifts are what Cathe does and what most trainers will have you do. The form shown on the link that is "what NOT to do" is, of course, correct. The last thing you want to do is round your back.

As far as I am concerned, you are absolutely correct in this argument.
Allison
 
What Cathe is doing in her videos are deadlifts for the hamstring muscle. She is doing either Romanian deadlifts and stiff-legged deadlifts. The other deadlift is more the "taditional" deadlift for the lower back area. As others have stated, there are various kinds of deadlifts...some versions focus on lower back and other on hamstrings. It depends on the muscule you are targeting.


Kristen
 
>
>I have several good books on weight lifting, including "The
>New Rules of Lifting," "Framework" (written by Cathe's
>orthopedist, by the way) and another... can't remember the
>name. All show the deadlift with straight legs, though not
>locked at the knee.
>

Check again in "New Rules of Lifting" on pages 106, 108, and 109. He does use deadlifts with bent Knees (resembleing the squat movement). These are all Deadlifts where you pick the bar off of the floor. On pages 110 and 111 the "rack deadlift" and the "Romanian deadlift" use a slightly bent knee. :)

Also, the confusion of a "Deadlift" looking like a "Squat" is that a "Deadlift" starts with lifting a dead weight off the floor and a "squat" lifts with the weight already at the shoulders.


http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/sports/barbell.gif ~Dallys~

www.picturetrail.com/keeponthesunnyside
 
What he showed you is a traditional deadlift, and it works pretty much every muscle in the body, and is a good test of overall body strength.

What Cathe does is straight-leg deadlifts or Romanian deadlifts, which are variations of deadlifts.

If done correctly, the deadlift is very effective, though when trying it at home, I recommend putting the ends of the barbell on a couple of step risers (so the plates fit insice the risers) to bring the bar up higher (where it would be if you were using Olympic plates in the gym).
 
It's funny that you wrote about this because I just finished Get Ripped Slim & Lean and Jari uses the same technique for deadlifts: it felt more like a squat. Being used to Cathe, I wasn't sure that it was right so I did a combination of Cathe's and Jari's for the deadlifts, which was definitely not right! Now I know it's correct form, just different technique.

The only tough weight workouts I have used have been Cathe, so the training is not varied enough. It's good to use other instructors every now and again. You learn something new and train your muscles in a different way. Muscle confusion is always a good thing.

Yen
 
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