Cosmetic Surgery

Amy Steppe

Amy Steppe

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I am considering cosmetic surgery to tighten the area under the chin. Has anyone else had this done and if so how much did you pay?

Please don't flame me.

If you want to send an email to my personal inbox, please do so.

Again, I know some people are opposed to cosmetic surgery, but I am not happy with my neck area. I am 55 years old and feel this one surgery would help my self confidence!

Thanks in advance!
 
I can't help you with info. about your surgery but just wanted to say if it will make you feel better, go for it. I had my nose fixed 20 years ago and I can't tell you what it did for my confidence. It was a decision I never regretted for one moment. Good luck.
 
I'm curious about this also. I'll soon be 54 and I can't believe the change in my jawline in just the past year:eek: I really don't have many wrinkles, but this is really bothering me. My cousin is ten years older than I am, she just had some work done and looks terrific. She is on the west coast and I'm in the midwest. I imagine cost would vary depending on where you live.
 
The cost does vary by location. I'm not sure they can tighten the neck without including some of the lower area of the face. I don't know, I've never asked, and I'm not a doctor!:D

I wanted a mid face and brow lift when I was 45, and my surgeon advised me to wait until I was at least 50 years old to include my neck. My eyes droop and my face seems to be melting forward around my nasal folds. I'm getting impatient. :mad:I want it done now. I'm beginning to see the sag at the neck line so I understand why my surgeon advised me to wait.
I plan to get this done one time in my life. I didn't get an estimate Amy so I can't help you there.

Best advice I can give you is research your potential surgeon, and take your time and spend the money consulting with different surgeons.
Board certified in plastic surgery.
Ask a lot of questions, ask for references, ask how many times a year he/she has performed this procedure.


I'm not sure how close this surgeon is to you. If he's close enough, you may want to consult with him.
http://www.maxwellaesthetics.com/office.cfm
I don't know anything about his face work, but he has a solid reputation for breast work. He is known for taking some of the worst botched breast jobs and repairing them to look normal. A lot of women travel to him for help.
 
Amy, I live in L.A. and people out here just rave about the Lifestyle Lift procedure, which specifically targets the jowls and chin and is "less invasive" than traditional plastic surgery. They have a great website and 800 number for you to find a doctor in your area. The website is www.lifestylelift.com. Hope this helps!

:) Jonezie
 
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Jonezie said:
Amy, I live in L.A. and people out here just rave about the Lifestyle Lift procedure, which specifically targets the jowls and chin and is "less invasive" than traditional plastic surgery. They have a great website and 800 number for you to find a doctor in your area. The website is www.lifestylelift.com. Hope this helps!

:) Jonezie
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My advice would be to research this procedure. There are several complaints.

http://www.cbsatlanta.com/video/18013688/index.html

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/doctors/dr_lifestyle_lift.html
 
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Great!

My mother had it done and she looks great! She had a combination of lipo and lift done under her chin and along her neck, and it took off years and pounds.

Make sure you do your research and find a good surgeon. You might find helpful info on www.faceforum.com, which is a forum and not run by any particular plastic surgeon. Also look at http://www.plasticsurgery.org/ which is the website of the American Society of Plastic Surgeons.

If you want to do this, I say good for you! And you shouldn't fear being flamed, either. :mad:
 
Jonezie said:
Yikes, Fit44! Thanks for the info! That doesn't sound good.

:) Jonezie
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I know, it's very sad. Surgeons should not be "selling" procedures. Really, that is the first clue something is wrong. The best surgeons in the world never advertise but they are booked months in advance. My surgeon told me I wasn't ready for face work, go home. Call him when I'm 50.
 
Amy Steppe said:
Thanks for the info. I do not purchase anything that is sold through an informercial.

What you provided me scared me - perhaps I will let Mother Nature take its course.

But I will still research and I appreciate all the advice/info.
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Good luck Amy.:)

I just realized.... I used the word "advise" and what I meant to say was "advice", I really need to proofread before I hit the submit button.:eek::eek:
 
I used to work for Scientific Image Centers; the "Lifestyle Lift" company. I worked in their main office under the owner, Dr. Kent and his wife. I will admit that I would not go to them, I know far too much and I've also seen far too much. I've seen great results walk out of there and others....

Be sure to thoroughly investigate where ever you. I'm looking into lasic to remove some spider veins I got from a very high impact injury in my early 20s. That non-invasive proceedure still scares me and it's not Cosmetic Surgery. Find a Dr you're comfortable with and one that has no issues refusing patients; all good ones will tell you to "go home" instead of taking your money which I can't say for all offices.
 
Hey, don't worry about advise versus advice. I did not even notice.....

I agree some surgeries are way scary. I think it depends upon the person's skin as well as the physician.

I think results must be individual. Some people look better; others look horrible.

I met a celebrity performing in Las Vegas this past summer. She was so tucked she could not smile. Sure, she looked pretty and youthful for 50, but her face was more a mask than a face.

How about Restalyne for the vertical lines along the lower face? Has anyone had anything to share regarding costs, efficacy, etc?

I HATE heading towards 56.....
 
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fit44 said:
My advice would be to research this procedure. There are several complaints.

http://www.cbsatlanta.com/video/18013688/index.html

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/doctors/dr_lifestyle_lift.html
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I don't understand. In Ontario, if this kind of thing went on, the patient would complain to the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario, the regulatory body for medicine. The complaint case would be considered by the ICRC (the Inquiries, Complaints and Reports Committee) and if the case was considered especially bad, the ICRC would refer it further to the Discipline Committee, who would try the case. The doctor could be suspended, lose his/her certificate of registration (right to practice), have to pay lots of money, have to attend educational courses, have terms and limitations placed on his certificate of registration, etc. And of course, could also be sued in civil court and, depending on the circumstances, be arrested for fraud and/or assault by the police.

I know we have very high standards for our regulated health professionals in Ontario (maybe the highest standards in the world; in Ontario the ability to practice healthcare is considered to be a privilege, not a right. Regulated health professionals are required to abide by huge amounts of legislation, standards of practice and guidelines), but I know the States has licensing boards, civil courts and police. Why aren't they using the mechanisms that exist to go after these people?
 
Amy Steppe said:
I agree some surgeries are way scary. I think it depends upon the person's skin as well as the physician.
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I agree everyone heals different, but what the CEO of lifestyle lift said in his interview with the news station was total BS. That is a stock answer crappy PS's give when they botch a surgery.:mad:

I had a breast lift done by a microsurgeon. My sutures were tiny under the skin, my skin looked glued together. I have no idea how my surgeon sutured me. It takes skill, precision, and time to suture like that and I believe it makes the world of difference in scarring. When I researched surgeons for my lift, I looked for a surgeon skilled in breast reconstruction.

Amy Steppe said:
I met a celebrity performing in Las Vegas this past summer. She was so tucked she could not smile. Sure, she looked pretty and youthful for 50, but her face was more a mask than a face.
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Well, I think this is where aesthetic style is very important. I want a natural lift. I'm okay with my wrinkles, so I don't need to be pulled tight to iron them out. :eek: What I don't like is my eye lids hanging in my eyes! LOL All surgeons have their own aesthetic style. You need to look through hundreds of photos to get an idea of that surgeon's style. An experienced surgeon should have a large portfolio of all his/her past work.


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How about Restalyne for the vertical lines along the lower face? Has anyone had anything to share regarding costs, efficacy, etc?
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I had it done once. I did not care for the procedure or the results. I had my lips and nasal folds done about 5 years ago maybe less. I spent $1k.
It's painful, like a root canal because of all the novocaine injections (remember I had my lips done). My lips felt lumpy for months, hated that feeling. My nasal folds....couldn't really tell that much of a difference and I had redness in the area for about 6 weeks. I had to wear heavy make-up to cover the bruises. I was not a good candidate. I think there is a newer solution they use now that is better that is smoother and last longer.
I couldn't see my self going through it several times a year.
 
morningstar said:
I don't understand. In Ontario, if this kind of thing went on, the patient would complain to the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario, the regulatory body for medicine. The complaint case would be considered by the ICRC (the Inquiries, Complaints and Reports Committee) and if the case was considered especially bad, the ICRC would refer it further to the Discipline Committee, who would try the case. The doctor could be suspended, lose his/her certificate of registration (right to practice), have to pay lots of money, have to attend educational courses, have terms and limitations placed on his certificate of registration, etc. And of course, could also be sued in civil court and, depending on the circumstances, be arrested for fraud and/or assault by the police.

I know we have very high standards for our regulated health professionals in Ontario (maybe the highest standards in the world; in Ontario the ability to practice healthcare is considered to be a privilege, not a right. Regulated health professionals are required to abide by huge amounts of legislation, standards of practice and guidelines), but I know the States has licensing boards, civil courts and police. Why aren't they using the mechanisms that exist to go after these people?
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I really don't have an answer to your question. I'll tell you what I do know...I've been on several cosmetic surgery forums and it is common knowledge lawsuits against plastic surgeon's are a waste of time because the results of plastic surgery are subjective. Unless the surgeon causes injury, and the injury is permanent. The surgeon is covered before the procedure. When the patient agrees to go forward with the surgery they must sign a consent that clearly defines all the possible risks, complications, and possibility of less than perfect outcome.
 
fit44 said:
I really don't have an answer to your question. I'll tell you what I do know...I've been on several cosmetic surgery forums and it is common knowledge lawsuits against plastic surgeon's are a waste of time because the results of plastic surgery are subjective. Unless the surgeon causes injury, and the injury is permanent. The surgeon is covered before the procedure. When the patient agrees to go forward with the surgery they must sign a consent that clearly defines all the possible risks, complications, and possibility of less than perfect outcome.
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In Ontario, it wouldn't be about the subjective nature of the aesthetic outcome - it would be about the safety of the public, whether or not the physician was practicing within his training, skills and knowledge and whether or not the physician was using acceptable business practices. It really wouldn't be about whether the patient had signed a release to be abused, it would be about whether the physician was practicing safely and honourably. As well, all regulated health professionals in Ontario are required to obtain informed consent from patients, by law. Some incidences of implied consent are allowed, but those would not include surgerical procedures (for example, when you go to the optometrist for an eye test, you are giving implied consent to have your eyes examined, without having to give implicit consent. But if an opthamologist performed surgery on your eyes, you would have to be informed of all of the risks of the surgery, possible negative outcomes, side effects, other options, etc. and give your implicit consent for the surgery to go ahead.)

The first step wouldn't be a lawsuit, it would be a complaint to the physician's regulatory body, CPSO. Why aren't these people complaining to the physician's licensing boards?
 
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