Backpacking question again...

Dani53

Cathlete
I am trying to get ready for my first backpacking trip with my husband. I have about two weeks to prepare for our three day two night outing and would like suggestions from others here on what rotation I might use for that. I have begun the strength building rotation for the new series, but if there is something better that I am overlooking I would appreciate the help.

Also any other advice for a brand spankin' new backpacker would be great! I have camped my whole life but I know this is an entirely new venture.
 
I think that you will be Ok with your current training. You may want to rest for 3-4 days before backpacking.

The most important rule of backpacking - make sure your pack fits correctly on your hips. If it doesn't, you will soon find your shoulders very sore and misery will follow. I switched my hip belt out for a larger one and it made all the difference in the world.

Backpacking is a lot like camping - just lighter. Does your husband have all the goodies - stove, water purifier, thermarests, etc...

Sounds like fun. You know that I could write for hours about this but if you have specific questions it would be more efficient if you asked them.

Clothing
Food (I have a GREAT backpacking recipe that is really easy for Pepperoni Polenta)
Are you going to cook or just eat pouches
Good lightweight treats
Potty tips
How to not feel nasty and dirty on the second day.....
Melissa
 
I can backpack till the cows come home as long as I have my toothbrush and a good pair of hiking shoes.

Shoes and well-fitted pack are absolutely essential for long haul hiking.
 
I have to add that what makes it worthwhile getting up the next day to walk some more is a good night's sleep. You need a good quality bag, 3 or 4 season, depending on where you go and when, and good mats to sleep on where your hip bones do not get crunched every time you roll over in the night.

Wet weather gear can make or break your holiday. Invest in good quality goretex stuff, especially if you are going to be backpacking again in the future.

The emphasis on the correct fitting backpack, INTERNAL FRAME ONLY!!!, is crucial. When buying your backpack at a climbing and hiking store, ask the staff member to help you load it up to at leat 40 pounds and walk around the store with it on so you can see where the pressure points lie and adjust it there and then with their help to a better fit for you.

Check out back issues of Backpacker magazine for special gear review editions before making final choices. It could save you from making a real bad purchase.

Well fitting hiking sneakers (for short haul, less rigged terrain and lighter backpack) or hiking boots (for longer trips, heavier pack carrying and rugged terrain) are ESSENTIAL. You need to purchse them in advance of your trip and wear them around the house, around town to breaak them in. Excrutiatingly painful blisters are misery when trying to enjoy a holiday. It happened to me 2 years ago and I never felt comfortable, even though I kept on walking.

You must go with someone who can map read and has wilderness survival skills.

Men seem to be able to wear the same pair of boxers all week long. Women cannot. Don't let your male companion short change you on the underwear front. You will want a clean pair of knickers every day. I can wear the saem shirt for days on end when space and weight of backpack are real issues, but clean undies for women is a must. If your trip is of long duration in a wilderness area where there are no camping aareas with facilities and running water for showers, a yeast infecttion is a definite threat (so I always take y.i. treatment with me for just in case). Sorry if this is TMI, but on a 6 week tour once this made me miserable too.

If you are working out regularly with Cathe, doing 3-4 cardios per week, weight training the legs 1-2 times per week, you are all set! All your training needs are being taken care of.

The first day can often hurt, because people do not realize how great hiking is for training the body and no-one is ever prepared for carrying that pack all day, especially if over 30 pounds, but by day 2 it usually feels great and as easy as walking along a flat surface. No matter how well trained you are with Cathe's leg and glutes workouts, expect your glutes to be achey after day 1! Weight training cannot always completely prepare us for real life activities.

Have fun, I am so jealous!

Clare
 
I agree with Clare on the training - you will be fine.

I also agree on the undies. I could wear the same shirt for weeks - but give me some clean undies every day or I am miserable.

I also take a little bottle of Dr. Bronner's soap (you can get this in the health food section) and a couple of bandanas. At night I heat up some water and take an Ozark Bath beginning with my face and ending with my feet. I use baby wipes for the aformentioned undie area.

I love having clean feet in my sleeping bag and it helps prevent blisters.

Backpacking tip of the week: If Aunt Flo will be taking the trip with you (or you have other icky TP garbage) the bomber way to carry it out is to take a can of Pringles with you on the trip. Munch down the first or second day. Keep the garbage in the Pringles can and keep the can in one of the outside sleeves or pocket of your pack. It never has to be inside and you never have to worry about it contaminating anything else!

Melissa
 
You guys are all so AWESOME!!:D I am so encouraged by your enthusiasm and excitement to help a sister out!

I got a Gregory Deva 60 backpack-made for women, and poured over the recent Backpacker magazine for reviews of gear. I usually buy all my gear at REI because you can test out a lot of stuff but also as a member the ability to return is valulable to me.

I also bought some Vasque boots that I am really happy with. The fun thing was shopping with a tax return and my husband saying not to look at the price. Try things on and walk around and see what really feels good. Bonus! They were not the most expensive!

We both bought sleeping pads. My husband had one but he upgraded and I got one as well. Thermarest I believe. We now have enough for the whole family if necessary. I bought my bag from Sierra Designs and it is a 20* bag...I hope that is enough, as I sleep cold, but it was reviewed well. It is a bag made for women in terms of the cut and I lucked out because I am short so the bag is actually smaller for 5'5" and under. My husband is jealous with how easily it packs and it is much smaller than his;-)

We do have cooking stuff but would like to upgrade the stove. A firefighter my husband works with like the MSR Dragonfly. This is where I would really like to take the lead, is with cooking. I thing for a couple of nights it may be worth the weight to take better food...if that makes sense. Any recipes or food suggestions would be fantastic!!

Female issues. This makes me nervous enough that I may plan trips around it until I don't feel like such a rookie. We'll see though as those things are totally planable. I did read something about underwear that inhibits bacteria. Any thoughts on that? Do they work or is it best to just pack more. I think the idea is that you would have two pair and you could wash them alternately.

So much more to ask, but I am late for a hair appt. Thanks again, and I will check in later.

Dani
 
OK, I am back and wanted to follow up again.

About the cooking...Have either of you used the Outback Oven? It looks really cool and allows you to make some great looking meals. I wouldn't think the weight would be worth it for longer trips, but for a couple of nights out do you think it would be?

Pepperoni polenta sounds delicious! Please share that! Also the snacks you mentioned. I guess I would really like to surprise and impress my husband with my first trip with him. I am working hard to be in shape for it, but if I could wow him with great cooking that would be terrific.

I have to say he is also being really supportive. He is so excited that I am finally showing an interest in this that he really wants it to be good. I have always liked the idea but our kids were never really at an age where I felt comfortable doing it. They are now, and so off we go! Our first trip will be just he and I, but after that I know we could bring our kids along, especially my boys.

The Tahoe Rim Trail will be a big goal for the summer. I would like to do different legs of it until we knock it off the list.

Keep the suggestions coming!
 
Just a quickie Dani, I will post the recipes later tonight.
I really like my MSR Whisperlite. It is louder than the dragonfly, but it is great in high winds. MSR makes great stoves.

I wouldn't go for the oven right up front. It uses a lot of fuel and it takes a lot of skill to use it - that is my friends' take on it. I am taing a 5 day trip into Rainier Nat'l Park this summer and we are toying with the idea of getting one.

I love to bring Jiffy Pop!

Hopefully we will get a good collection of backpacking recipes here!! Other backpackers, please step up! Since the invention of pepperoni polenta, I have been trying to top it!
Melissa
 
Time to wash underwear on a backpacking trip? I don't think so!!! Not to mention, you'll have to stuff them down inside your bag to dry them, and they may still be soggy the nest day!

Nooooooooooooooot for me!

Clare
 
I wish I had recipes to share, but my hubby and I are hopeless with the food aspect of our trips. We use dehy(drated food) and very simple and boring it is too.

Needless to say, we always lose weight on our trips......

Breakfast: tea (teabag, sugar, dried milk) and oatmeal (oatmeal, sugar, dried milk)

Lunch: trail mix, protein bar, chocolate, water!

Dinner: a Knorr's soup (packet of soup), mashed potato (dried milk, potato flakes, margarine, salt and pepper), TVP flavoured with a packet sauce mix.

Dessert: apple and custard (dried apple flakes, custard powder, sugar, dried milk)

I hate the TVP but unless we are car camping, you have to get your protein in somewhere.

My husband and I live each day for the lunch and dessert!!!


It's always a toss up on a longer trip between really heavy packs and interesting and more food or lighter packs and a boring diet. But the compensation at the end is always: weight loss!

Clare
 
Clare, I love that I can ask a stupid question and get an answer that makes me die laughing! You're killing me:D

I guess I assumed they could be rinsed out and dried overnight. Also I was thinking that we would be remote enough that I could hand them off my pack with a little caribeaner (sp) and they could dry in the air all day....maybe?
 
Hi there I back pack a lot and here are some items I cannot live without:

Compactor bags - everything gets put in them, one for my sleeping bag and one for everything else. No matter how the weather looks you just never know.
Sock liners - to prevent blisters
Mole Skin - to treat blisters
and zip together sleeping bags to keep us warm.

Oh right and because of Cathe I can go on just about any hike with just about any pack on my back!
 
Hello dlondon!! Welcome to Cathe and thanks for jumping in!!

When you say compactor bags are you talking about compression stuff sacks? I did just pick up a couple of those and I am amazed at how small my sleeping bag will get now. Teeny!
 
Dani:

Consider also that the water could be very cold. I have camped where the only water available comes from the glaciers around me. No way I'm washing my smalls, by hand, in glacial run off!

Consider also, that any soap you introduce into a wilderness environment goes against the "pack it in, pack it out," and "leave no trace but footprints" wilderness ethics.

Save your washing for when you can get to a camp ground or motel. Thanks!!!

Clare
 
I wouldn't want to wash undies. They are just going to get more gross.

I wear some kind of jockey underwear that is really quick drying. I guess it would dry if you rinsed it out in water.

Like I said, I heat up a little water in the pot for the bath - and I only use a few drops of Dr. B's. It is very refreshing and Dr. B's is pretty natural. Don't put it back into a stream or on vegetation and usually most of it stays on the bandana anyway.

TVP - Texturized Vegetable Protein. It is pretty nasty and very hard to digest. It is only good in things like chili where you really can't tell what it is.
 
Pepperoni Polenta

Here is is. I went to a backcountry cooking seminar and got this there, but I added some stuff.

For 2 people
1 stick of pepperoni, cut up. If you buy the pre cut, then quarter them
1/2 - 3/4 c shredded parmesan cheese
1 c polenta
1/4-1/2 c dried milk powder
pinch of red pepper flakes
dehydrated veggies - about 1/2 to 1 cup depends on how veggie you want it.
A couple of tsp of butter buds
1 tsp salt
1/2 tsp pepper

Fry the pepperoni in a pan. This will render the fat out. Wrap in a foil pack. Put the parm in a ziplock or foil pack. Mix everything else in a ziplick.
To cook: combine it with 4 c water and bring to a boil. don't boil the water first. Simmer 10 more minutes. Stir in pepperoni, add cheese just before serving.
This makes way too much for 2 people unless this is all you are eating. You may want to cut the water & polenta a little.

As with all backcountry recipes - practice at home before you take it out!
 
Awesome Oatmeal

1 c quick or 3 minute oatmeal
1/4 c brown sugar (or more if you like it sweet)
1/4 c powdered milk (or more)
1 tsp butter buds
1/4 c dried cherries
1/4 c dried apricots
1/2 c sliced or slivered almonds (or pecans or walnuts)
1 tsp cinnamon
1/4 tsp salt.

Combine in a ziplock

To cook - boil 2 c of water. Stir mix in, simmer for 4 minutes.

The butter buds are optional, but they do make it taste more rich.
 
Actually I use trash compacter bags because they are so thick and keep everything dry even in the worst weather. I haven't used the compression bags because they don’t seem durable enough, but I may have bought the wrong kind. They didn’t seem to seal up at the bottom.
 

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