Abs and Obliques

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trevor

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Hi Ladies!!
I am sitting here watching the snow pile up like crazy and thought I post a bit today. Haven't had much of a chance recently...
Regarding abs......does anyone know how often you should work obliques compared to the front ab muscle? I am worried about pushing the obliques outward too far and making myself look thick in the middle. I am busting hard on my abs, especially now. What foods are no-nos besides the obvious ones like butter? I eat alot of lowfat yogurt.....is that ok? I know abs are especially sensitive to diet.
Thanks for any responses.
For you racing fans....catch the Daytona 500 today and watch Jeff Gordon(#24) knock Dale Jr. down a notch or two. You have to have a little driving skill to win and the media seems to be forgetting that this week. lol!!! Kidding, sort of, but Gordon is still the king of points racing...
Stay warm....
Trevor :)
 
Hey, My Favorite Cathe Forum Guy!

I have never been real big on using weights for ab exercises, and Cathe's ab work with the medicine ball is as far into weighted ab work as I'll go.

In my own experience, and I push this every chance I get, nothing works your obliques like kickboxing (the arm and ab stuff, of course) and the arm motion used in race walking. This is a more "bang for your buck" way of exercising, getting in your cardio and abs at the same time.

I've never been one to spend a lot of time on my abs, never really had to, I think because of my cardio which works abs.

Happy Sunday!
 
Hey HB!!
Yeah I always liked kickboxing but I cannot fit the new class times into my schedule.
I know Cathe recommended using weight on the abs if you really want definition. I do use a medicine ball sometimes.....I have really been trying to change it up alot.
Thanks girl! Stay warm........looks like 28 inches of snow here.....DAMN!!!!
Trevor :)
 
Good Morning Everyone:
Wouldn't jumping in IMAX & others provide benefits to the abs like kickboxing? It seems to me both require stablization, especially jumping onto the step and tuck jumps. Of course not as much oblique work.
 
Hey Trev! I just emailed you! I'm gonna go sledding now but will get your ab program together ! For those interested I'll post pics on www.picturetrail.com/francigirl Also the no-no foods to stay away from sugar and high carbs after 5:00 pm, Eat more protein towards the night (only carbs if you will be burning them off for an intense workout!) Make Protein a priority at every meal! Check out www.Mendosa.com you want to aim for Lower Glycemic Index on your carb sources(50 and below) -High glycemic carbs are converted to sugars in the body so beware of your vegetables and other quality resources! Get a chin up/pull up bar at Modells or any sporting goods store for 12.99! (great for traveling too)This is great for upper body but also the abs! You can do hanging knee raises and work the obliques too
;) TTYS Gotta go Play:+
 
Question Francine, This pull up bar that you mentioned for 12.99, is it a pressure bar? I'm looking for one and everyone tells me that they are too dangerous as they can come loose. I still want one. We have a built in one in our workout room, but we used to have a pressure bar, the kids used it like a jungle gym in our door way, had a blast. We never had a problem with it releasing, but we never had anyone on it over 110 pounds. Thanks for your help!

Briee
 
I heard this before also. I don't remember where but it had to do with working your obliques too much and your waist will get thicker. Is there any truth to this?
 
Hi Sarahs! There may be truth to that! It most likely would depend on how the ab area is being worked(sequences,sets,reps,rest etc)! IMHO if the area is being overworked and there is alot of resistance being applied than the consequenses would most likely be a thicker,athletic waistline and perhaps overdeveloped abs! However if one uses the chin up bar for hanging knee raises and side raises on occassions this will only intensify and enhance their ab development! This is an advanced exercise that puts constant tension on the abs so doing 1 set of 12 would suffice- you will fatigue this area quickly by doing these exercises! again just MHO;)
 
> However if one uses
>the chin up bar for hanging knee raises and side raises on
>occassions this will only intensify and enhance their ab
>development! This is an advanced exercise that puts constant
>tension on the abs so doing 1 set of 12 would suffice- you
>will fatigue this area quickly by doing these exercises! again
>just MHO;)

What would a side raise be (using the chin up bar?).

Thanks for all the great advice. I'm going to check it out. I'm still trying to do that pike you showed in your pictures. It feels like I'll never get that strong!

Hanging in there though - I'm stubborn!
:7
 
Francine, thanks for the advice. I just love all the oblique work in the new intensity series and I don't want to have to stop! Anyway, I am not able to add resistance with weights now so I probably won't in the future. Thanks!
 
Hi Punky! A side raise is instead of raising your knees forward , you move them to the side and raise up working the obliques! I have a pic on my lat tower, I'll get! I'd take the pic for you but my DH been plowing since yesterday with all this snow we had(20 inches)I wish I could set this camera up for taking the pics on my own! I get rammy when I want to get things done and I'm held back.I want to get some BTR pics together too for the forum ,(didn't forget about yas) Oh and Punky you can try the move with the barbell on the floor too, by being in kneeling position in front of the barbell and roll out with it to a point of comfort! This will be great practice for when you are ready to advance to the next level! If you have someone to assist you in the advanced barbell roll over that would be great and very helpful to you !HTH;)
 
> Hi Punky! A side raise is instead of raising your knees
>forward , you move them to the side and raise up working the
>obliques! I have a pic on my lat tower, I'll get! I'd take the
>pic for you but my DH been plowing since yesterday with all
>this snow we had(20 inches)I wish I could set this camera up
>for taking the pics on my own! I get rammy when I want to get
>things done and I'm held back.I want to get some BTR pics
>together too for the forum ,(didn't forget about yas) Oh and
>Punky you can try the move with the barbell on the floor too,
>by being in kneeling position in front of the barbell and roll
>out with it to a point of comfort! This will be great practice
>for when you are ready to advance to the next level! If you
>have someone to assist you in the advanced barbell roll over
>that would be great and very helpful to you !HTH;)

Thanks - I'd love to see a picture of the side raise. I'd also love a copy of the ab program you put together for Trevor, if you wouldn't mind!
 
Hi Punky! I'm always working on fitness demos for people and will be posting more pics either on www.picturetrail.com/francigirl or my hp photo link(http://www.hpphoto.com/servlet/com.hp.HPGuestLogin?username=francigirl&password=50337067 ) On picture trail I'm past my limit for freebies so I may have to delete some an add there or just move them to hp photo album, not sure but the uploading downloading is time consuming on hp-I just might buy the year package and keep all my fitness pics on picture trail-it's easier and more convenient! I'll let you know when new pics are up, do you want me to email you or pm you(not sure if you use that feature or not)! let me know girlfriend! Also Here's Trevor's ab program to be done 3x a week( I decided to post it here cause I had several requests through pms for it!)* This was customized for Trevor who works out at a gym, he also has a partner(so he has partner assisited ab work with med ball)and also a home routine-nothing fancy just very effective moves hitting the muscles differently with each ab day progressing in slight variations throughout the week ! Results will happen if you EAT RIGHT, Train intensely and Focus on the the breathing , Perform each rep with slow controlled movements(*constant tension on the abs)Always finish with lower back stretch!
*TREVORS AB PROGRAM
Gym - start off with this and make it intense and focus on each contraction-fatigue your ab area)
1 set of 15 reverse decline crunch(lower)
1 set of 15 decline twist (obliques)
1 set of 15 Cable crunch (upper)
*using a high cable pulley, attach a rope handle it will be a natural grip and you'll have freedom of motion! You are on your knees facing down-your upper legs are at a 90 degree angle to the floor, your back slightly arched.Hold the ends of the rope with each hand positioned above your head. Begin to pull the rope downward and inward towards your knees as you breathe out! Stop before you reach the floor-CONTRACT your abs with all your intensity and hold for 2 full seconds then slowly uncurl your back into starting position. Repeat taking it slow each time and giving it your all-concentrate on that muscle you are working!( you can also do a variation of a side twist with this by lessening your weight and grabbing the rope with one hand and performing a twisting crunch- ex-grab with left hand and crunch down twisting to your right)
* reverse decline crunch-lie back on decline, hold onto the sides of the bench right behind your head, keeping your head straight at all times and focused, raise your legs up off the floor and bring them to a point of comfort where they are perpendicular to the bench-keep your feet together and toes slightly pointed, now take a deep breath and slowly begin to curl your hips toward your shoulders(don't try to just lift your legs) curling will bring the body upward and inward, breathe out while you contract and keep going til your hips and lower back are off the bench-hold for 2 full seconds, slowly lower yourself out of this to starting position , relax-take a breath and go again! This is tuff stuff-15 reps is all you need!
*decline twist-turn yourself around-lock your feet in place, your hands at the sides of your head, go on a 30 degree angle (you are already contracting your abs here to remain in place) in starting position contract your left oblique by twisting your torso to the right(breathe out and slowly contract- when left elbow will be toward your right knee hold and flex for a 2 sec count(one-thousand one-onethousand -two )slowly untwist to starting position but keep abs flexed the whole time-then reverse procedure-continuing alternating throughout your set!(you can also do this for upper by not twisting)
*You can also use a med ball on this decline bench and twist side to side
Abs with Rebecca using med ball
1 set of 20
upper- one stands and tosses the ball while the other is on the floor in a crunch position with knees bent on a 75 degree angle -crunch up then catch the ball as you return to down position, shoulder blades just off the floor, crunch back up most of the way before tossing the ball back
obliques-sit on the floor knees bent-your backs touching each others now holding theball in front of you turn to the right to hand it to her then turn to your left to get it back -keep passing it back and forth to work the obliques
Lower abs-lie on the floor with your head at her feet , hold her ankles and bring your feet up to meet her hands,she'll put the med ball in between your legs (hold ball tight) use no weight at first- while your legs are straight in the air she will push your legs out and downtoward the floor as you attempt your feet from touching the floor( you can work your obliques too this way by her pushing your legs to the side same format)
Home abs 2 sets of 20 do once then repeat
reverse crunch(roll knees in)
oblique crunch with side jacknife (lie on your left side, place yur left hand on your right side, clasp your right hand behind your head and straighten your right leg up in the air(above your hip) parralel to your left leg-bring your torso up and do a side crunch!
frog crunch- lie with your knees relaxed out to the sides, heels together on the floor curl forward bringing your shoulder blades off of the floor!
Do these for 3 weeks with what you are already doing or do alone, You can gradually increase in reps or lower your rest period also anytime you want to add intensity to you abs for feet positioning-you go from ground position, to knee position to legs straight up--for hands-you go from beside your knees, to across your chest to behing your headm to advanced of having hands extended over your head, for decline it's all about the deeper the decline is! Then you would want to start using the stability ball for ab exercises and the capt chair! There are soo many ab exercises, but the best abs are made in the kitchen!;)
 

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