DOMS (again)

Justinef

Cathlete
Does anyone know what determines the D in DOMS? I know that time under tension, and volume of eccentric movement, weight lifted etc determines the S.....but when I try to search for anything about the delay, all anyone says is that DOMS occurs 24-48 hours after a w/o.

Recently mine have been more delayed than ever. 30 hours for the onset, peaking at about 40 hours. I used to just experience it the following day. It's messing up my schedule!!

PS I haven't changed my nutrition
 
I wish I knew the answer, but I'm not sure anyone does! I have read that the delay in soreness is generally due to the inflammation and tears that occur in the muscle/connective tissue after a workout + the process of rebuilding/restoring the muscle. It makes sense that muscle rebuilding and restoration process would take *some* time.

I've had DOMS come as late as 3 days after a workout...I'm talking to you, Great Glutes Extreme premix! ;) Talk about messing up my schedule! I wish I could predict when they will come. If take a break from exercising (vacation, illness, etc) then I pretty much know I'll get DOMS from whatever workout I do when I get back into a routine. But when I'm in a consistent routine (which is the norm), I can't really predict when/if they will come. Really killing it during a workout? Maybe I'll get DOMS, maybe I won't, and who knows when! Trying something new? Still no predicting the when/if of DOMS.

I've given up trying to figure out DOMS. I know that's not helpful to your question, but at least you can take comfort in knowing you're not alone in your confusion, right? :)

Lisa
 
If the "DOMS" is coming so late after a certain workout, or indeed any workout, can we be certain that it is in fact DOMS that follows from a particular workout session, and not simply a degree of extra soreness/stiffness related to the aging process?

I am currently, for example, going through a period of generalized additional soreness, muscle fatigue and achi-ness nearly all-week long, that seems to pertain to not any one workout in particular, but the very fact of exercising at all. I am diagnosing mine as a combo of reaction to a new medication I have been trying and the aging process (currently well in the throes of perimenopause). I need more rest time and more stretching. Also, I gave up the medication: couldn't stand all that muscle soreness after just the warm-up to my workouts. No tolerance for anything that messes with my exercise schedule!

So, my point was/is: it may be more than or other than DOMS. What else do you ladies have going on? How old are you?

Clare
 
When I first started working out with weights years ago, the DOMS would kick in the morning after. I have noticed that as my physical conditioning improved, the DOMS were showing up much later after a challenging workout.

I try to head the DOMS off by drinking some tart cherry juice for a day or two to alleviate some of the inflammation. I hope later DOMS onset is more of a reflection of improved fitness rather than aging or menopause.
 
I'm hoping Callygirl is right, and not Clare!!!! Although, yes, I'm perimenopausal (mid 40s) - my birthday tomorrow, and I'm at the stage I don't like them :p

I'm pretty sure it IS DOMS - it's very area-specific. At first I thought I may have changed something (diet, exercise intensity / duration...), but there's nothing which comes to mind.

Stretching and cherry juice......so be it.
 
Clare, sorry that you are dealing with medication-related issues. It's so frustrating that something can help us in one area of life, but simultaneously make other areas of life worse--as is so often the case with medicine. :( I hope you figure out the best solution for you.

My DOMs are definitely more related to those post-workout DOMS that Justine and Callygrrl described. I'm in my early 30s and haven't had any disruptive lifestyle changes of late. I don't get DOMS with every workout. My frustration is simply in the fact that they are so unpredictable, like the extreme butt soreness I felt 3 days after doing Great Glutes recently (I know those DOMS were due to GG because I hadn't done any lower body or cardio since doing GG...just an arms workout and regular day-to-day activities).

Interesting to hear everyone's thoughts on the matter. Yes, I can attest to the benefits of stretching and, unfortunately, foam rolling. I would add Epsom salt baths to the list. Will have to try the tart cherry juice.

Lisa
 
Kind of off topic, but I only get DOMS when I really switch up my routine. I tend to gravitate toward the same 10 or so Cathe workouts, usually Xtrain, but when I switch it up and do STS Meso 2 I get crazy DOMS in my chest. My hamstrings have been talking back to me since I did GG on Tuesday and it's now Friday! I think the intensity and onset just depends on the variety in your workouts. My delayed onset soreness usually starts 12 hours post workout and peaks at 24-48 hours. Again for me the intensity of it just depends on how "different" the workout was compared to my usual routine.


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For me it's those darn hamstring roll ins with the ball. I can only do them with both legs on the ball. I can't imagine how sore I'd be if I did them single leg.[emoji12]


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