pool heartrate calories fat?

[cinza]

i just read on Karen voights page that your heartrate could be 17 beats lower doing a workout in the pool compared to one on land.

So that the heartrate and effort ratio are diffent in the water..

does a lower heartrate translate into lower calories burnt?

where is a good source on infor of what burns when you are in the pool?

also, when i workout in the pool i come out starving. I am wondering if its because i used up alot of energy or if its because my body thinks it nees more fat if i am going to spend time in cool water.

i observe that water athletes look like their muscles are covered with a little bit of fat as compared to runners who really look wirey...

any one have facts on fat burning or accumulation for those in the water?

thanks

 

[Aquajock]

RE: IMH2O . . .

Hi, Cinza! In my humble but windy opinion, the difference between land heart rates and water heartrates is overstated, and is based primarily on swimming activities (in which you are horizontal at the surface of the water and utilizing primarily the smaller upper body muscle groups) rather than a broad-based range of water activities including shallow-water athletic work. In fact, when I was studying for my ACE certification back in 1997 the small amount of ink devoted to water aerobics, written by Mary Sanders, briefly alluded to the fact that when vertical, travelling protocols were added to water work the heart rate more closely matched land heart rates. When I take heart rates between the shallow water aerobic and deep water segments of my class I usually use just a standard land HR as a barometer, as well as the Talk Test and the RPE.

What burns when you are in the water depends on what you're doing. If you are doing power jumping your quads and hamstrings, as well as abductors if you're doing an "airborne jack" movement, will be "toasty" (as our friend La Cathe would say); if you are doing power shoulder abduction / adduction either in the horizontal or frontal plane your shoulders and lats can burn; if you are doing fast tempo knee extensions / bends your quads/hamstrings will burn, etc. The more targeted the movement to the specific muscle group and the more extended the set, the more the "burn" - and yes, you DO heat up in the water if you are moving vigorously, thus you need a cool pool!

I don't have the research to back me up on this, but my thinking as to why you're hungry after a pool workout is: during any vigorous activity your core temperature heats up, and heat has an anorectic effect for the short-term (notice when it's really hot outside - you're not as hungry then). In the water, the conductivity of water draws this elevated heat out of the body much more quickly, giving your appetite and hunger a chance to kick in sooner. I'm always famished about half an hour after I've finished teaching my aqua class; after my land workouts which always include cardio AND slow weight-lifting, it takes my appetite about an hour longer to kick in. (Not that that stops me from chowing down, mind you! )

Exclusive water athletes are not getting the strength training they need. Water has its limits in terms of STRENGTH building potential, although it's awesome for endurance. You can get a high-intensity cardio workout + a muscle conditioning workout within one aerobics segment because of constant resistance around the body - if you know how to position your hands, feet and limbs properly.

Have fun!

Annette The Gasbag

 

[Debra]

interesting

Thanks for the detailed post. I wanted to make sure you knew it was appreciated. A gasbag is long winded without substance so you're no gasbag!

 

[val92083]

I agree with Debra!

I always learn something from you, Annette, and I love reading your posts. I appreciate that you take the time to give thorough answers to all the questions that fall in your area of expertise!

Veronica

 

[Aquajock]

RE: Thanks . . .

Thanks to you, Val and Debra and Cinza for posing the question. Every now and then I get a little defensive about being an Instructor One Trick Pony, and that Trick being in the water. Many think water aerobics is the Tiddly Winks of the exercise world. However, teaching it hammer and tongs for 4-3/4 straight years has helped me to learn what works - maybe being an Instructor One Trick Pony ain't so bad!

Annette

 

[kimroberts]

RE: Thanks . . .

I never thought water workouts were for wimps. I miss the aqua classes I used to teach at my other gym. Mine does not now have a pool, but everytime I take my son to the pool, Mama spends the whole time doing jumping jacks, and skiing!

 

[cinza]

Annette is an AMAZON!

thanks Annette....

By the way we all KNOW YOU are no WIMP!

HOW MANY PUSHUPS are you doing these days?!!

werent you aiming for 75 not long ago? And didnt we all drop dead just reading what you were doing!


water is a fabulous and intelligent workout choice..I think you are lucky to love it and do it..

 

[Aquajock]

RE: 50 DECLINE PUSH-UPS!

Hi, Miss Cinza! You're so sweet! I've been consistently able to do 50 no-rest decline straight-leg push-ups, with toes off a 6" platform, for about the past two weeks now. And, I've been consistently able to do two more sets of eccentric decline push-ups after the first big push (I like to do: push-ups, pec flyes, barbell bench presses, push-ups, pec flyes incline bench, bench presses, then one last set of push-ups), varying the height of the bench from 6" to 8".

Considering my sedentary, klutzy childhood and teen years, you have no idea how much these physical gains I've made weird me out. It's like it's me, but not really me.

I always tell my participants, "A little bit more than you did before, and you will be amazed at the progress you make over time!" I guess my Inner Participant's listening too . . .

Keep up the water stuff! It works!

Love "chatting" with ya -

Annette