Glycogen, Maribeth?

jillybean

Cathlete
Hi. Your answer to my post "How do you do it?" got me thinking about glycogen depletion. I noticed that during the CTX rotation is generally when I feel most energetic, least likely to binge. The CTX tapes contain 120 min. of cardio. During my last PH rotation, I did 160 min. of cardio a week, plus PH 3x's. This might be the reason why I have been craving sweets, bread, etc. so much lately. I am sure that 160 min. might be average for lots of Catheites, but it might be too much for me. Am I cheating myself by cutting down my cardio, or is this a realistic, helpful thing to do? Thanks so much!
 
I would love to hear the answer to this also. I have always done a lot of cardio in addition to strength training and I have a terrible time with refined carbs.
Erica
 
Jillybean..

I am interested to hear Maribeth's take on this as well, but wanted to point out that during your latter rotation you have significantly upped the total exercise as well. Could it not be that your eating habits just didn't change with the increased exercise and you are just flat out hungry??

On your second rotation, you are doing PH 3x's per week and 160 min. cardio!! That is quite a bit of work!! Much more than what is involved with the CTX series. I think you just needed to eat more for this rotation, not so much that it was a glycogen issue..Just my two cents....

Janice
 
Hey, Jillybean,
You most definitely are not cheating yourself by keeping cardio within a reasonable limit. It isn't so much a matter to total cardio time per week, but of total cardio time and intensity per session that can be resulting in glycogen depletion. For example, if you are doing 30 minutes of high intensity cardio three times a week, the effect on glycogen stores will be different than doing a single 90 minute session of high intensity cardio. The timing of your pre and post workout feedings will make a difference, too.

Especially if you are wanting to increase lean muscle mass, too much cardio can have a negative impact on your training. A glycogen depleted state means that the energy available for strength training won't be there, so you won't be able to put as much into it. Also, as blood sugar/glycogen levels fall below a certain level, the body will tap sources of stored protein (lean muscle) for building more glucose.

You can see why for improvement of body composition, glycogen depletion is something you'd want to avoid. Given that excessive cardio can lead to this, you will want to avoid that, too. So how much is too much? It will vary from person to person, but a good indicator of glycogen depletion or low blood sugar is the almost uncontrollable craving for sweets and white bread type products.

Based on what you mentioned in your post, I would say that the routine you are doing when you note a problem with cravings is probably too much cardio for you.

Take care and good luck!
Maribeth
 
Thanks so much! Sometimes it just takes an intelligent person to verify what it was that I probably already knew. I will cut down cardio and see how it goes. Also, what is a good pre-workout snack. I workout at 5:30 a.m. and don't want to eat that early. I heard you mention juice before. How many ounces? Thanks again!
 
You are most welcome! For your early morning workout, I suggest 4 oz of orange or apple juice mixed with 4 oz of water. You can either drink the juice diluted with the water or drink one right after the other. The water slows the absorption a tiny bit so you avoid the roller coaster effect. It also helps with any stomach upset that sometimes comes with the acidity of the OJ.

Let me know how it works for you!
Maribeth
 

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