Nathalie:
first off, let's put aside the natural antagonism between us that leads you to target me specifically for negative critique here, when I did no such thing in my response to your thread. My comments were a critique of the test and link you supplied, not of you. Do not misconstrue my words.
Secondly, I shall try to reply to these comments, even though grammatical errors in your response make some of what you say difficult to interpret with 100% accuracy.
1) you say: "should anyone goal be purely based on aesthetic, each their own as we live in a democratic free world." Exactly. It is this very democracy you cite which means that I am at perfect liberty to state an opinion contrary to the one in the article you reference by link in your original post. Thanks for validating my different opinion.
2) you say: "people do not pursue fitness simply for aesthetic purposes is a toxic speculation." Sorry, no: you are in the wrong here. It is the very notion that fitness should be all about aesthetics that leads to an individual developing psychological complexes regarding body image. The term is body dysmorphia. Fitness should be about far more than aesthetics. We are all mentally healthier when aesthetics is but one factor in how we envisage our fitness program and ideals.
3) you say: "is unfair on anyone who has been kind in sharing her views. Feel free to speak for yourself but please let everyone else speak for themselves too." Again, you are in error: my words are not unfair to anyone; I do not aim to speak for anyone but myself, even while I can guarantee that others on these boards will identify with my viewpoint (as evidenced by the like it has already received). Iindeed, I argue here that in fact it is you, Nathalie, who is trying to silence me, to forbid me from speaking for myself and holding an opinion contrary to yours.
4) you say: "I am sure the majority of us here are happy here." This statement is somewhat strange, hard to see what you are trying to say here. Absolutely no reason why everyone here should not be happy. Though, of course, you cannot speak for anyone else and their imagined levels of happiness. Why would you presume to speak for them?! My words do not eliminate anyone else's happiness with their bodies. Most have their own opinions already formed. I speak a truth that needs to be heard for all those who suffer the tyranny of a one-aesthetic deemed acceptable for women: perfectly sculpted, perfectly muscular, lean, but still feminine, and all this achieved effortlessly. It is this one-aesthetic-fits-all that robs women of their happiness. My words speak to all women who need to be freed from thinking that what they look like matters more than how they feel in their body.
Really, Nathalie, how could you have mis-interpreted my post so badly?
Clare
Clare,
First of all Clare I did not specifically target you. Where on earth this statement is coming from?
This is not the first time that you "hijack" one of my thread and
turn it into an un-healthy futile discussion. This makes me cringe cause this is not what I intended. The aim of this thread to truly pass an information not to raise negative vibes about women insecurities. Should you wish to talk about it I suggest you openly post your question and I promise you I would be more than happy to post my say with my inaccurate english grammar!! By the way I wish you could help me out in my french grammar Madame
Now I want to make it clear that when I posted this below:
".Although I lacked knowledge then about my body type, I knew there was no way I could look like kate moss going through any type of diet!
My anatomical skeleton look way to far from that type of shape"
This was a joke about a comment in the conclusion of the article. There is no need to read between the lines and trying to "mis-interpret" "twist" my comments!!!
Beside it was not about pointing a figure on anyone else. I was talking about myself!!!
Fyi "Fitness is defined as Physical fitness is a general state of health and well-being or specifically the ability to perform aspects of sports or occupations. Physical fitness is generally achieved through correct nutrition, exercise, hygiene and rest. It is a set of attributes or characteristics that people have or achieve that relates to the ability to perform physical activity".
This is the definition I have in my mind when it comes to fitness.
1) Yes you are free to have your own opinion Clare. My problem is you seem to have an issue with me. You do not like what I love doing Hiit cardio, plyometrics, intricate step choreography, lifting hypertrophy, kickboxing etc...You have expressed it, not always in a respectful manner! You expressed it on many occasions.
I think it's unfair and inappropriate you deliberately deviate from the purpose of my thread turn the discussion into a personal vendetta. This has got nothing to do with my french grammar
This is not the first time you have turned a good helpful discussion into a war zone full of negative vibes. I am not in on that one with you
2)Fitness should not be about aesthetics please refer to wikipedia definition of fitness. I suggest you read your favourite magasine from reputable source.
Yes what we think about ourself affect our mental health. should you wish to discuss about it, p
lease post your own thread to avoid mis-interpretation. I have suggested this last time you hijacked my thread!!!
3)As you say there are few people who will identify with your views, I am not intending to argue nor am i trying to compete with you on that. This is the issue you seem to have with me. I love discussing topic and interactic with cathletes and aim to encourage everyone, passing the information keeping the vibes positive. Which is not the case with you Madame!
4) is about your statement: Not sure what you were trying to say!!!
I am advised to "keep cardio to a minimum until I am happy with my body and how it looks." Problem here is that there are massive misc-conceptions and assumptions: 1) I am not unhappy with my looks: I have always been a lean ruler, athletic looking and I'm good with that. 2) people do not pursue fitness simply for aesthetic purposes.
I have no intention of advising you on how many cardio session you need to do per week. Neither do i intend to advise anyone who share you views!!!! the unhappiness with looks mentioned above, if you were referring to yourself again NO COMMENT.If you do not pursue fitness simply for aesthetic purposes, good for you.
Now as to myself I do not pursue fitness exclusively for aesthetic purposes. I am adamant to make it clear. Aesthetic was not the reason I embarked on fitness so please do not twist my word, hijack my thread and put word on peoples mind. You are now making me inclined to post my story cause I feel you are trying to portray a person
I am not So please speak for yourself and ensure it's concise and clear in a separate post rather than hijacking
threads posting comment which are irrelevant to the subject. It 's confusing.
As you mentioned about happiness, yes I am very happy to do what I love doing, discuss what I do, I enjoy every little inch of my muscle should it be too much or less to anyone taste! In fact I could not care less about any bitchy girly mean comment right now. I feel 100% good about myself.I now have better health with less stress,I have confidence ( not cockiness, arrogance hope you don't miscontrue my french grammar on this
) I am very happy with my athletic looks i gained as a bonus. This will not stop me to embrace more challenge cause I do not do comfort zone. This is probably not a view you are sharing clare. So you do not have to share it!
No offence to anyone. I needed to make this clear.
To anyone else reading this post,Please do not judge me based on this post.
I needed it to make it clear to clare! Hope I did it in a respectful way. otherwise I apologise.
The purpose of the thread is to pass on the information about body type, share experience based the information taken on board, not to turn the discussion into a war zone between Mesomorphs and ectomorphs!
