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What is the purpose for lunges?

Discussion in 'Cathe Video & DVD Questions and Comments' started by haydee, Nov 24, 2004.

  1. haydee Cathlete

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    I ask this question b/c my dh and his friend are telling I'm wasting time doing lunges. I will never develop my quads and/or get the teardrop I'm looking for. Squats is the only thing that will achieve that look. I don't think that's true b/c I know some women, my daughter in particular who does ABSOLUTELY nothing has athletic thighs, and they have a muscle bulging from the side of their thighs.

    Please someone help me out with this.

    BTW, I have thick quads and if you tried to pinch a layer of fat from my thighs, it's hard to do, but my dh has a teardrop and you can PULL skin from his thighs???????

    Thanks,
    Haydee
     
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  2. Connie1 Cathlete

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    Lunges work your legs in a complimenary way to squats. They put the stresses on different muscles so that when you get too tuckered out (muscle fatigue) to do more squats, you can still do 32 lunges, or vice versa. Step-ups are another excellent variety. All the exercises mixed together far surpass a plan that includes only one.

    Varying your exercises allows you to work the muscles more which means faster results.

    There's another reason to vary exercises also. The hamstrings and glutes must be sufficiently strong to allow you to work your quads (unless you use machines, only recommended if you have a discrepancy, and under prof'l supervision) to the point you want them. Lunges and step ups strengthen those antagonist muscles, thereby enabling you to work your quads harder.

    Finally, remember that muscle shapes, like facial features have a genetic predisposition. They vary from person to person, so stay aware of that and work to your strengths somewhat. That's my 2 cents.
     
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  3. dss62467 Cathlete

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    Aren't lunges more for your hamstrings and glutes? I know they're harder than squats!
     
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  4. kathryn Cathlete

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    Part of the difficulty of lunges is that they require more balance,using more stabilizing muscles, like inner and outer thighs. Because of this added balance challenge, you can get more out of lunges using less weight.

    Also, depending on how they are done, they do hit the hamstrings/glutes more. An exercise physiology book I have classifies front lunges in with quadricep exercises, while rear lunges are categorized as hamstring exercises. Static lunges aren't classified, but I would say they can work the glutes more, especially if you push through the front heel.

    I've often seen squats referred to as "the king of lower body exercises" and lunges referred to as "the queen of lower body exercises."
     
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  5. mogambo Cathlete

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    <<I've often seen squats referred to as "the king of lower body exercises" and lunges referred to as "the queen of lower body exercises." >>

    I guess the implied assumption is that female monarchs are inferior to male ones, or something, eh? :p :p
     
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  6. kathryn Cathlete

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    >I guess the implied assumption is that female monarchs are
    >inferior to male ones, or something, eh? :p :p
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    Yes, they do seem to be relegated to "important, but in second place."
     
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  7. R_A_C_H Cathlete

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    Lunges are those things Cathe uses to try to kill me.:p
     
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  8. trevor Guest

    You aren't wasting time doing lunges. You just aren't going to get a good teardop look from them.
    Lunges work best for me on my glutes. I never use lunges as an exercise to target quads. To get the teardrop muscle that you want, do either squats or leg presses along with leg extensions. To really isolate and define the quad and get the teardrop you really should do some leg extension work.
    Of course, as with anything, some people develop easier than others do.
    Good luck.
    T. :)
     
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  9. catwoman Cathlete

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    I agree with most everything that's been said: that lunges are good for both quads & hamstrings/glutes, and also work different muscles that squats and step-ups. Also, I agree with the comment made about the body being genetically predispositioned to form a "teardrop" or not. It really depends on your muscle makeup whether you will form a "teardrop" or not. I have such muscular thighs that I doubt I ever will, but it doesn't stop me from working my legs hard.

    I created a 12-week fitness program using Cathe's workouts, and I've been on it two weeks. I've done the P.L.B. and Lower Body Sculpt primarily for lower body, and have felt the lunges and squats in all areas of my upper legs (thighs, quads, glutes) about equally...no area is more sore than another afterward.
     
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  10. smoogy Cathlete

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    Have you ever heard of sissy squats? I had a PT in 1997 & he made me do these. I had never done them before & my teardrops just popped out after a few weeks. Using some form of rack that holds you at the front of the ankle (to keep you stable) and a cushion at the back of your ankle(for stability & comfort) you lower yourself with feet close together raised on toes, hips thrust forward, leaning back. Return to start. It really burns. The name is misleading. They really work. But I haven't done them in years because my new gym didn't this rack & I now work out at home. I know there is a way to do it without a rack just a strap for support, but I never tried it. I'm sorry I can't really help. Maybe you have access to a gym. This link is to what kind of rack I'm talking about. I wish Trevor could give more info. He would probably makes better sense.

    http://www.weighttrainersunited.com/sissysquat.html

    They also look a little rough on the knees but I never had any problems.

    Marla
     
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  11. trevor Guest

    I have seen those sissy squats before. I don't particularly like them because I think they are tough on the knees. Also, I think these are usually done with a plate on your upper body and it's hard to go up in weight. But again, to each their own.
    If you want the teardrop to grow I recommend the leg extensions as a pre-exhaust move and then go to front squats in a smith rack. The placement of the bar during front squats supposedly puts more emphasis on the teardrop muscle.
    I get good results with 3 sets of leg presses to pre-exhaust the quads, followed by heavy, heavy leg presses. I switch the leg presses in and out of my workouts with regular squats. I often superset deadlifts with leg curls. Recently I have done straight sets with dumbbell front lunges followed by a double drop set of leg curls, followed by a single drop set of leg curls. Talk about BURNING!!!! LOL!!
    I switch up alot so you'll see me trying different stuff quite frequently.
    T. :)
     
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  12. smoogy Cathlete

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    Have you seen them or have you tried them? }(

    Marla
     
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  13. trevor Guest

    Only seen them. I didn't mean to sound like I don't think they'd work, they just look tough on the legs to me. For me, th eleg extensions and squats do the trick.
    T. :)
     
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  14. Shaz Cathlete

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    Re sissy squats, there is a very similar move in Callanetics that makes the quads BURN with no added weight. No other leg exercise has ever made my quads burn like this (I liken it to the burn I get from calf raises). I haven't done callanetics regularly for many years, but when I did, my quads popped out!
     
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  15. jdoll Cathlete

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    Sorry to sound daft, but what is a "teardrop"?????

    jes
     
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  16. Shaz Cathlete

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    I was wondering that too.
     
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  17. haydee Cathlete

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    I would like to thank everyone for their response.

    Oh well, I guess in order to achieve that teardrop look, it's back to squatsx(. and/or extensions.

    Have a good day everyone.
    Haydee
     
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  18. haydee Cathlete

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    >Have you ever heard of sissy squats? >

    >Marla

    Marla you're not going to believe this but I actually have one. So I guess it's TIME to hit that bad boy.

    Catwoman maybe I'm not genetically inclined to develop a teardrop, but time will tell as I will continue to work the legs hard b/c I do love all types of lunges and the leg presses that Cathe does. Right now I don't have the leg press machine, but my dh and I should receive it soon.

    Haydee
     
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  19. smoogy Cathlete

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    How cool for you. I remember when I use to include those in my program my legs were so buff. My DH was jealous. TeeHee.

    Let me know how it goes.

    Marla
     
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  20. Lynn M. Cathlete

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    Sissy Squats are killers!!

    Hi-

    I tried these one time at a gym that I visited while I was out of town last year. The owner showed me how to do them on the "rack" thing. and man, they ARE tough!!
    I use pretty heavy weight for squats and leg presses and with this, I didn't use any and could barely squeeze out 4 reps. It totally isolates the front of the quad/tear drop like nothing else I had ever done!! It was most humbling!

    If front quad/tear drop development is what you are trying to accomplish, I would highly recommend this exercise.

    Take care, Lynn M.
     
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