Something To Think On-Ben Stein

tneah

Cathlete
Ben Stein wrote this,whether you agree or not, its something that made me stop and think this morning.

My confession:



I am a Jew, and every single one of my ancestors was Jewish. And it does not bother me even a little bit when people call those beautiful lit up, bejeweled trees Christmas trees. I don't feel threatened. I don't feel discriminated against. That's what they are: Christmas trees.



It doesn't bother me a bit when people say, "Merry Christmas" to me. I don't think they are slighting me or getting ready to put me in a ghetto. In fact, I kind of like it. It shows that we are all brothers and sisters celebrating this happy time of year. It doesn't bother me at all that there is a manger scene on display at a key intersection near my beach house in Malibu . If people want a creche, it's just as fine with me as is the Menorah a few hundred yards away .



I don't like getting pushed around for being a Jew, and I don't think Christians like getting pushed around for being Christians. I think people who believe in God are sick and tired of getting pushed around, period. I have no idea where the concept came from that America is an explicitly atheist country. I can't find it in the Constitution and I don't like it being shoved down my throat.



Or maybe I can put it another way: where did the idea come from that we should worship Nick and Jessica and we aren't allowed to worship God as we understand Him? I guess that's a sign that I'm getting old, too. But there are a lot of us who are wondering where Nick and Jessica came from and where the America we knew went to.



In light of the many jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different: This is not intended to be a joke; it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking.



Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?" (regarding Katrina) Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.

She said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives. And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out. How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone?"



In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc. I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we said OK.

Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school. The Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.



Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide). We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.



Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves.



Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."



Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says . Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing. Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and workplace.



Are you laughing?
 
I am. Between Ben Stein & Thomas Jefferson, I'll take Jefferson:

And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerve in the brain of Jupiter. But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors.

Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear.
 
Really? Well, there ya go! Thanks for the correction. But we do reap what we sow, I have always thought that. "Like energy" attracts "like energy".
 
>Only about half of that commentary was written by Ben Stein.
>The entire section beginning with "In light of many jokes..."
>was added by someone else, and includes some false
>information.

That makes me feel better about Ben Stein. I was with 'him' up to that second part, which seems like a bit of a leap from the ideas in the first part.
 
>But we
>do reap what we sow, I have always thought that. "Like energy"
>attracts "like energy".

Absolutely. Karma, or whatever you want to call it.
But it's not a valid argument for prayer in school or mixing church and state (as the second part of the 'quote' implies).
 
>Beuller? <I know...predictable>

I was waitin' for that, Beavs!!! :) :D ;)

I knew I could count on you!!!

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I agree its not a valid argument.
You wanna talk about mixing church and state, I lived in Utah for 5 years! Wow, I loved living there and respect others religions and stuff, but it was an interesting time for sure.

The jury is out for me on Mr. Stein. He has taken a gig on that show "Americas Most Smartest Model" its kinda funny, mostly pathetic.:) Don't ya love reality television??

I liked some of the points made in the above commentary though.
 
As long as we are quoting Jefferson, how about this one:

"I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever."

I wish I could find the context it was written in.

No hard feelings from me, just another thought.

Anyway, as an evangelical bible-believing Christian, I'm baffled at all the fuss about the use of the word Christmas by other Christians. No one can stop me from using the word or celebrating the season as I see fit. And I could honestly care less if businesses use it. How does it strengthen my faith if Lowe's calls them Christmas trees and how does it weaken my faith if they call them Holiday trees?

No one can stop me from following my Lord at any time or any place. There may be consequences--being called names, laughed at, scorned, or worse, but no one can stop me from speaking or praying or reading my bible or sharing my faith.

Neither death nor life nor angels nor principalities nor height nor depth nor any other created thing can separate me from the love of Christ and while I love the current religious freedom of my country, ultimately it isn't where my hope lies.

I rarely post on these kinds of threads, because it's so hard to communicate effectively, but ack, I just did.

Maggie :)
 

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